Supervision After Licensure - State Mobility

[PsydGinger]

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I have a question about hours for licensure and career progression… For some background, I just graduated with a PsyD and currently work in a military treatment facility (HPSP/active duty pathway). I intend to get licensed through the state of Virginia in the next few months due to the timeline and flexibility (i.e., timeline of service commitment payback), however, at some point in my career I would like to get licensed in Florida as well for mobility and job options outside of federal employment. I intend to get out of the military and move into the civilian sector in 3 years once I have completed my service commitment. What would be the likelihood that I could find a VA/federal position with a psychologist who is willing to “supervise me” for a year so that I can accrue the 2000 hours needed for Florida licensure, even though I would be an independent provider? What is the general consensus of a licensed psychologist doing a formal post-doc 3-4 years into their career? Are there other options that I am overlooking?

Any information would be greatly appreciated!

 

[SchoolClinical]

I have a question about hours for licensure and career progression… For some background, I just graduated with a PsyD and currently work in a military treatment facility (HPSP/active duty pathway). I intend to get licensed through the state of Virginia in the next few months due to the timeline and flexibility (i.e., timeline of service commitment payback), however, at some point in my career I would like to get licensed in Florida as well for mobility and job options outside of federal employment. I intend to get out of the military and move into the civilian sector in 3 years once I have completed my service commitment. What would be the likelihood that I could find a VA/federal position with a psychologist who is willing to “supervise me” for a year so that I can accrue the 2000 hours needed for Florida licensure, even though I would be an independent provider? What is the general consensus of a licensed psychologist doing a formal post-doc 3-4 years into their career? Are there other options that I am overlooking?

Any information would be greatly appreciated!

Wondering about this. Is someone who gets licensed in a state that doesn't require postdoc hours able to accumulate postdoc supervised hours down the line (not a formal postdoc)? Or are they locked out of states that require postdoc hours forever?

 

[WisNeuro]

Wondering about this. Is someone who gets licensed in a state that doesn't require postdoc hours able to accumulate postdoc supervised hours down the line (not a formal postdoc)? Or are they locked out of states that require postdoc hours forever?

I can only talk about one anecdotal situation that I had experience with in a clinic I was involved in. Person had to be supervised/someone sign off on their notes until they accumulated those hours. We were a pretty heavy training program, so it was pretty easy to make happen. At non-training, or light training sites, could be difficult. I don't know that I'd do it without a significant financial incentive.

 

[AbnormalPsych]

Anectodal data n=1, a person I know was told by a state board this could not be done.

I don't know how true that is, but that's what I was told when they looked into it. So they decided to just do the hours now and hold off on getting their license issued until they had those hours completed.

 

[SchoolClinical]

Anectodal data n=1, a person I know was told by a state board this could not be done.

I don't know how true that is, but that's what I was told when they looked into it. So they decided to just do the hours now and hold off on getting their license issued until they had those hours completed.

Thanks. I'd love to hear if people can name specific states that have a policy one way or another.

 

[WisNeuro]

Thanks. I'd love to hear if people can name specific states that have a policy one way or another.

I'd simply advise people to read the licensure requirements for states in which they want to possibly live/practice in, read them thoroughly, and make sure your training meets the most strict of those states.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

I haven't seen any clear examples of how it is handled, so I've recommended to students that they complete their hours to remove any doubt.

I know getting licensed and moving from one state to another it tends to be at least 5yrs of licensed practice to apply w/o having to submit everything like the first time you get licensed. Being ABBP'd can help w this too, as does credential banking, but those are separate but related considerations.

 

[missplum]

Thanks. I'd love to hear if people can name specific states that have a policy one way or another.

If you have a specific state in mind, maybe you could email the licensure board for that state and ask what they have accepted/rejected from out of state applicants who did not pursue a traditional post doc. It might be good to get their advise on how you can set yourself up in the future if you decide to move to a state that requires post doc hours. It might also give you an idea of how flexible their mindset is about this sort of thing.

 

[AcronymAllergy]

Thanks. I'd love to hear if people can name specific states that have a policy one way or another.

I was browsing through state reqs a few years back, and I want to say Georgia (?) was one that set a time limit as to how long after graduation the supervised hours could be accumulated.

As others have said, just to be safe, I've always recommended trainees go ahead and get a year's worth of supervised hours immediately after completing internship. If nothing else, it's less professionally jarring, since you're already used to having supervision at that point. It can also be good for professional development and acclimating to being a "real" psychologist.

 

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