Surgeon Documentation for Post Op Pain Block Necessity

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Aether2000

algosdoc
15+ Year Member
Joined
May 3, 2005
Messages
4,238
Reaction score
2,296
The hospital system I was with for 5 years required the surgeon's office to schedule surgery with a request for a block for post op analgesia, therefore documentation was never an issue. However there appears to be a myriad of practices in the many surgery centers where I now administer anesthesia including-
1. No surgeon scheduling of a block, no verbal or written request for a block, but it is "understood" that certain procedures will be accompanied with a post op pain block.
2. Surgeon schedules the procedure that typically gets pain blocks as "choice" but neither asks for nor schedules a block.
3. Surgeon schedules the procedure that typically gets pain blocks as "Regional" but neither asks for nor schedules a block.
4. Surgeons schedules the procedure as "MAC with pain block", and does not want general anesthesia.
5. Surgeon verbally asks for a pain block but with no documentation anywhere from the surgeon of this.

The ASA has addressed this to a certain degree: Statement on Reporting Postoperative Pain Procedures in Conjunction with Anesthesia
however, some of the scheduling and lack of documentation by the surgeon or their scheduling office may prove problematic given that some insurers require documentation by the surgeon of the request for post operative pain blocks, ostensibly (according to CMS) because they do not have the skills to provide such post operative pain control measures (since the primary responsibility for post op pain control is by the surgeon according to CMS). For instance scheduling a procedure as MAC with pain block does not meet the requirements to be able to use the pain block as post operative pain because the pain block was actually the primary intraoperative anesthetic. Similarly, scheduling "Regional" indicates regional anesthesia for surgery, not for post operative pain. The situation where the surgeon neither documents nor schedules nor requests a post op pain block does not seem to meet the documentation requirements.

Thoughts?

Members don't see this ad.
 
Last edited:
Write in your block note that it was requested for postop pain by the surgeon. Assuming they actually wanted it
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 users
Members don't see this ad :)
Our billers said we are required to check that box “requested by surgeon”
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
Would that be enough for insurance requirements?
That’s all we do here, never had any issues. It’s one of the boxes you can check on the EMR, the others being intraop anesthesia, regional case, etc that wouldn’t get you paid. I wouldn’t think the insurers are getting much more info from the surgeon or hospital side besides what’s in your documentation.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
we check the box and put their name. right before patient comes in we discuss the plan. i tell them ga with block for post op pain. unless there is a specific reason, they are almost always fine with it . therefore i check the box
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top