Surgery question

[istillbelieve]

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If an individual did 3 and a half years of general surgery, starting from 2003 and ending in 2006, (One year at one institution and the remaining years at another), what were the chances of getting in to a plastic surgery residency back then.

Thanks

Jack MS 2

 

[Law2Doc]

If an individual did 3 and a half years of general surgery, starting from 2003 and ending in 2006, (One year at one institution and the remaining years at another), what were the chances of getting in to a plastic surgery residency back then.

Thanks

Jack MS 2

I have no clue what you are asking, and doubt I'm the only one. Please try to ask this differently.

 

[istillbelieve]

In addition to the info I provided above, the doctor did well on all exams and did well in 3 and a half years of general surgery residency. Again, she did one year of general surgery residency at one institution and 2 and a half at another. That was back in 2005/2006. What were her chances of getting in to a plastic surgery residency when she left general surgery? I understand they are very competitive. I hope this helps.

Jack MS2

 

[colbgw02]

This is my favorite SDN question ever.

 

[istillbelieve]

This is my favorite SDN question ever.

Why is it your favorite?

 

[colbgw02]

Why is it your favorite?

Then who was phone?

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

Why is it your favorite?

Because no one can understand what you are asking or why, and you are either being deliberatively obfuscating or obtuse.

The event in question happened in 2005/2006, so asking what the likelihood of it happening was is irrelevant...because the outcome is known and either it did or did not happen.

If the question, as much as I can understand you, is "what is the likelihood that someone who completed a prelim intern year, then obtained a categorical residency in general surgery, would subsequently obtain a plastic surgery residency spot?" - then the answer is "low". No one can give you a more precise answer than that. But again, it is irrelevant, as the outcome is known.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Here is the answer: The chances would have been better in 2005 when there were still some PRS programs who would accept a trainee after 3 years in general surgery.

That door has closed. So if your "friend" made the decision to leave GS residency back in 2006, and thinks that because the option was available then that she can get a position now, she is mistaken. See here.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Here is the answer: The chances would have been better in 2005 when there were still some PRS programs who would accept a trainee after 3 years in general surgery.

That door has closed. So if your "friend" made the decision to leave GS residency back in 2006, and thinks that because the option was available then that she can get a position now, she is mistaken. See here.

 

[istillbelieve]

Because no one can understand what you are asking or why, and you are either being deliberatively obfuscating or obtuse.

The event in question happened in 2005/2006, so asking what the likelihood of it happening was is irrelevant...because the outcome is known and either it did or did not happen.

If the question, as much as I can understand you, is "what is the likelihood that someone who completed a prelim intern year, then obtained a categorical residency in general surgery, would subsequently obtain a plastic surgery residency spot?" - then the answer is "low". No one can give you a more precise answer than that. But again, it is irrelevant, as the outcome is known.

Well, I lost contact with her, and I have no way to reach her. So, the outcome is not known to me at least. I am just curious: why would the answer be a low chance. I mean the last time I heard from her she stated that she did well on her exams and the 3 and a half years of residency. Did the 3 and a half years have to be done at the same institution? Now I am just curious, although it is no longer done. I sure hope she got into one. After all, this is all she really was interested in.

 

[istillbelieve]

"southernIM, post: 14607799, member: 237581"]Because no one can understand what you are asking or why, and you are either being deliberatively obfuscating or obtuse."

This is a mean and unnecessary response. If you are annoyed with my question, simply move right along and ignore it.

 

[Mr Avante]

... move right along and ignore it.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Well, I lost contact with her, and I have no way to reach her. So, the outcome is not known to me at least. I am just curious: why would the answer be a low chance. I mean the last time I heard from her she stated that she did well on her exams and the 3 and a half years of residency. Did the 3 and a half years have to be done at the same institution? Now I am just curious, although it is no longer done. I sure hope she got into one. After all, this is all she really was interested in.

Because plastic surgery is one of the most difficult surgical matches. Even without knowing your friend we can surmise:

1) she did not apply or match into an Integrated PRS program;
2) since she did her first year and subsequent GS years at different programs, she was probably a Prelim GS resident who didn't match into a Categorical position out of medical school. This implies she was less competitive than the average GS categorical resident.
3) PRS is very competitive
4) most PRS programs, even in 2005, preferred GS residents with FULL 5+ year training rather than the 3 year (although technically meeting the requirements)
5) Hence, a low (but not impossible) chance.

Its pretty easy to look someone up: http://www1.plasticsurgery.org/find_a_surgeon/ (presuming she is now a plastic surgeon and a member of ASPS)

 

[ruralsurg4now]

Did anyone else notice how well she knew how to look up plastic surgeons?

 

[istillbelieve]

Then who was phone?

Because plastic surgery is one of the most difficult surgical matches. Even without knowing your friend we can surmise:

1) she did not apply or match into an Integrated PRS program;
2) since she did her first year and subsequent GS years at different programs, she was probably a Prelim GS resident who didn't match into a Categorical position out of medical school. This implies she was less competitive than the average GS categorical resident.
3) PRS is very competitive
4) most PRS programs, even in 2005, preferred GS residents with FULL 5+ year training rather than the 3 year (although technically meeting the requirements)
5) Hence, a low (but not impossible) chance.

Its pretty easy to look someone up: http://www1.plasticsurgery.org/find_a_surgeon/ (presuming she is now a plastic surgeon and a member of ASPS)

Because plastic surgery is one of the most difficult surgical matches. Even without knowing your friend we can surmise:

1) she did not apply or match into an Integrated PRS program;
2) since she did her first year and subsequent GS years at different programs, she was probably a Prelim GS resident who didn't match into a Categorical position out of medical school. This implies she was less competitive than the average GS categorical resident.
3) PRS is very competitive
4) most PRS programs, even in 2005, preferred GS residents with FULL 5+ year training rather than the 3 year (although technically meeting the requirements)
5) Hence, a low (but not impossible) chance.

Its pretty easy to look someone up: http://www1.plasticsurgery.org/find_a_surgeon/ (presuming she is now a plastic surgeon and a member of ASPS)

 

[istillbelieve]

Because plastic surgery is one of the most difficult surgical matches. Even without knowing your friend we can surmise:

1) she did not apply or match into an Integrated PRS program;
2) since she did her first year and subsequent GS years at different programs, she was probably a Prelim GS resident who didn't match into a Categorical position out of medical school. This implies she was less competitive than the average GS categorical resident.
3) PRS is very competitive
4) most PRS programs, even in 2005, preferred GS residents with FULL 5+ year training rather than the 3 year (although technically meeting the requirements)
5) Hence, a low (but not impossible) chance.

Its pretty easy to look someone up: http://www1.plasticsurgery.org/find_a_surgeon/ (presuming she is now a plastic surgeon and a member of ASPS)

Thank you so much for your help. I also went through the website you have listed. She is not listed. I appreciate your help.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Did anyone else notice how well she knew how to look up plastic surgeons?

🙄

Most professional societies have such a function/list. Given that I work with plastic surgeons daily in a professional capacity, it should not be so surprising.

I come by my looks honestly and without the aide of PRS.

 

[ruralsurg4now]

🙄

Tee hee hee.

 

[colbgw02]

I come by my looks honestly and without the aide of PRS.

Pics or it didn't happen.

 

[Mr Avante]

Pics or it didn't happen.

+1

Post those links, Wing

 

[Winged Scapula]

Pics or it didn't happen.

+1

Post those links, Wing

LOL....c'mon guys...there's tons of pictures of me around. Its not like its a secret.

1) search SDN archives for my picture on my profile page: archives.studentdoctor.net

2) search the Surgery forum for "Lazar Greenfield"

 

[Mr Avante]

LOL....c'mon guys...there's tons of pictures of me around. Its not like its a secret.

1) search SDN archives for my picture on my profile page: archives.studentdoctor.net

Instructions weren't clear enough
Stethoscope got stuck in a patient's bum


j/k


I am lazy, Wing 🤢, so many clicks

 

[Winged Scapula]

Instructions weren't clear enough
Stethoscope got stuck in a patient's bum


j/k


I am lazy, Wing 🤢, so many clicks

Weak.

You want something, you gotta put in some very minimal work.

 

[Mr Avante]

Weak.

You want something, you gotta put in some very minimal work.

)-: whelp

 

[ruralsurg4now]

)-: whelp

I'd post her pic, but after all of this, it would be really anti-climactic.

 

[Mr Avante]

I'd post her pic, but after all of this, it would be really anti-climactic.

lel

no need thx

 

[Moose A Moose]

Because no one can understand what you are asking or why, and you are either being deliberatively obfuscating or obtuse.

 

[Mr Avante]

I'm one of these 2 women.

oh no you didn't
oh nooo

 

[Winged Scapula]

oh no you didn't
oh nooo

LOL...now I can delete my post since you've gotten your question answered.

 

[Mr Avante]

LOL...now I can delete my post since you've gotten your question answered.

thanks

 

[Buzz Me]

Weak.

You want something, you gotta put in some very minimal work.

It's worth it, fellas.

 

[Shikima]

Totally worth it.

 

[ruralsurg4now]

It's worth it, fellas.

You, my friend, have now officially spent too much time in the hospital.

P.S. I missed the pic.

 

[Shikima]

You, my friend, have now officially spent too much time in the hospital.

P.S. I missed the pic.

Still time to find it.

 

[Winged Scapula]

You, my friend, have now officially spent too much time in the hospital.

P.S. I missed the pic.

That may be the case that he's spent too much time in the hospital but Buzz has seen many pictures of me over the years.

 

[ruralsurg4now]

Still time to find it.

Oh, it's searchable? OK.

 

[ruralsurg4now]

I didn't see any picture with two women in it. Just saw the duckface photo. 😀

 

[Winged Scapula]

I didn't see any picture with two women in it. Just saw the duckface photo. 😀

The pic with me and my friend was a time limited offer.

"Duck face" was taken by a medical student as I expressed my displeasure at a surgery department meeting.

 

[Shikima]

Aflac.

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

This got weird

 

[Winged Scapula]

This got weird

LOL...typical SDN thread which goes off-topic.
Its all ruralsurg's fault; I actually answered the OP's query. 😛

 

[ruralsurg4now]

LOL...typical SDN thread which goes off-topic.
Its all ruralsurg's fault; I actually answered the OP's query. 😛

I'm the best at derailing threads.

 

[Mr Avante]

I'm the best at derailing threads.

This is probably the best thread I've ever been part of

 

[ruralsurg4now]

This is probably the best thread I've ever been part of

That post made me sad. 🙁

 

[Buzz Me]

That may be the case that he's spent too much time in the hospital but Buzz has seen many pictures of me over the years.