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With the interview season for surgical oncology fellowships about to begin, I was wondering if anyone new if any forums for discussing the match and interview process. I tired searching for a thread on this website and couldn't find anything. If there isn't one, perhaps a thread could be started here. Thanks in advance.

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I posted this thread a long while back and received no replies. Now that I completed the interview process, I know better why. There simple aren't that many people out there interviewing for surgical oncology. I thought I would post my opinions on the fellowship and the match process in case someone in the future might find it useful. These are just my opinions so take that for what it is worth.

First, I think the reputation of the competitiveness of surgical oncology is slightly exagerrated. It is true that there are very few spots (somewhere around 45 depending on the year) but there are also relatively few applicants. I got the impression that most programs interviewed about half of their applicants, but most people who interview and submit rank lists actually get spots. I saw the same 30-40 people throughout the interview trail. Also, I only encountered one applicant that was reapplying. Compare that to plastics where about half the people that actually submit rank lists don't match, not counting the number that actually apply.

It is true that the top 2-3 programs are relatively hard to get in, and its helpful if you know someone or have actually done research at those places. Also, I a lot of applicants have spent time in the lab. I think that's partly because the fellowship appeals to that type of person. I haven't done lab time and still got plenty of interviews. There were less than a handful of MD/PhD's interviewing- I think they're mostly ready to get on with their lives and not interested in more training. In the future, I'll post some thoughts on the individual programs.
 
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I'm a third-year medical student with the aspiration of becoming a surgical oncologist. Would you happen to know any general surgery programs that consistently put their residents into surgical oncology? I'm an osteopathic student with strong board scores, honors in general surgery, at least one strong letter of recommendation and will hopefully be participating in a two month research fellowship at the beginning of my fourth-year. I am hoping to get into a strong academic program, but would opt for a program that has an emphasis on surg onc or an reputation for sending graduates to SSO fellowships.

Also, if a program is not recognized by the SSO does this weaken the trainees training and/or marketability?
 
I'm a third-year medical student with the aspiration of becoming a surgical oncologist. Would you happen to know any general surgery programs that consistently put their residents into surgical oncology? I'm an osteopathic student with strong board scores, honors in general surgery, at least one strong letter of recommendation and will hopefully be participating in a two month research fellowship at the beginning of my fourth-year. I am hoping to get into a strong academic program, but would opt for a program that has an emphasis on surg onc or an reputation for sending graduates to SSO fellowships.

Most any average program, even community ones, have sent people to Surg Onc training. I doubt you will find one that "consistently" puts residents into Surg Onc because there are so many different types of fellowships and Surg Onc isn't necessarily one of the "favs". Also its hard to know how to read the data...would you rank a program that had never sent someone to a Surg Onc fellowship if you knew that no one there had ever been interested or applied? As a medical student, I wouldn't worry about it...look for a program which will give you research time and will otherwise make you happy. Fellowship applications are 4+ years away (at least) for you; a lot of water to run under the bridge between now and then.

Also, if a program is not recognized by the SSO does this weaken the trainees training and/or marketability?

I think its not as desirable. Currently there isn't a board in Surg Onc and when I applied for hospital credentials and to get on insurance plans, no one really cared about my SSO certificates, they just wanted to see the one from my program. However, there may be a board in the future; it remains to be seen who will be grandfathered in and if that will include people who did not do an SSO approved fellowship. Going to an SSO approved fellowship does have some benefits in that you are more "in the loop"; you get info about conferences, etc. that are sent to all "official" fellows, tend to meet the others more readily than those who are not...at least in my experience.

Programs that are approved or official SSO fellowships have not all necessarily been accredited by the SSO; the process is currently on-going to do site visits for all that are on the list. Accreditation by the SSO is fine but its really more about whether the program can check off a number of items on the SSO requirements. The foundation is there but the quality of training is independent of SSO approval.

As for marketability, I haven't seen any jobs which specify "SSO fellowship grad" but rather simply "completion of Surgical Oncology fellowship", so I don't think it matters. OTOH, as I alluded to above, doing an SSO fellowship probably opens more doors simply because of connections, meeting people, etc.
 
UPenn, northwestern, UCSD, duke, univ o chicago all routinuely send people into surg onc

surg onc is heading toward being boarded. i would stick w/ an sso approved program
 
Thank you very much for the advice! I guess I'll stick to just finding a residency that will suit my needs and allow me to do research.
 
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