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I’ll do PTAs if the stars align (resolved cellulitis, cooperative healthy patient). I’ll do native joint aspirations as well and have occasionally been surprised by what would otherwise have been an occult septic joint. I’ll do this as a fully sterile procedure though and the risk of infection/reaccumulation is emphasized verbally, in the consent, and on my chart. This all seems within scope of practice and standard of care.I'll do the PTA aspirations only if they are over 2cm. If less, then I don't even bother and will DC with abx and ENT f/u instructions. I used to do CTAs on all of these to visualize and delineate abscess size but nowadays I can often judge if it's less than 2cm based entirely on exam and I won't even bother with imaging. I have found that I do more of these since working with residents as I do think they need to know how to do them at the bedside.
I never do paracentesis anymore, especially after reading some of that iatrogenic SBP data. What a low yield procedure and most of the time completely impractical in a busy ED, plus it conditions that pt population to perpetually abuse the system and show up over and over again for taps. I might do a diagnostic aspiration if I'm feeling really nice but most of the time I don't even do those anymore. If they are blown up like a balloon and having some mild respiratory compromise then I just stick them in and have GI or IR do it as inpatient. I can't believe I used to sit there for half an hour with vacuum bottles or working up a sweat manually pumping that stuff into a bucket. I won't touch these unless I've got an intern that needs to learn the procedure and "put in their time".
I punt most perianal abscess to surgery unless it's clearly gluteal. I used to try to do some of these in the ED earlier in my career which is why I probably have hearing loss. It's like performing medieval torture. The screams that come out of the room... If I ever come in with one of these please for the love of God let surgery explore under anesthesia so I'm asleep.
I haven't done a thoracentesis since residency I don't think... Completely unnecessary in the ED.
Joint aspirations...usually not. Again, iatrogenic seeding of the joint is not exactly statistically insignificant and I'm much better these days of gauging a true septic joint vs tenosynovitis. Most of those traumatic hemarthrosis knees are going to fill up with blood within 24 hours of you tapping it. If it's a post op knee fogetaboutit. Ortho would count their lucky stars it if you poked a needle in there so they can finger you as the culprit in the lawsuit.
I kind of miss doing some of those cervical injections, trigger point injections, occipital nerve blocks, etc.. but damn...who has the time these days. I almost never have a slow shift where I can do some of those. I used to do intercostal nerve blocks for rib fractures or bad shingles lol...man those residency days seem like ages ago.
Paras/thoras: almost never. I did one last shift because it was a slow day and I kind of just wanted to do it. I connected to wall suction and had the tech go in to change the cannisters. Ended up being a 5 hour dispo between work-up, drainage, and albumin for like 2 RVUs. So… not worth it. But at least I wasn’t sterile for 45 minutes manually pumping out 6 liters of peritoneal fluid 😅
Regional anesthesia is probably the most rewarding thing that I’ll do on a semi-regular basis. Taking away someone’s pain entirely is so rewarding. Every time it works I feel like I should’ve gone into pain medicine.
Yes, doing most procedures is rarely as lucrative as seeing another patient and, depending on your practice setting, there will generally be someone turf it to. I still find them rewarding at times though and like knowing that I still have your proficiency if need be.