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The OP of that thread was an obvious troll. When mere antisocial stupidity didn't get the reaction he wanted, he switched to antisemitism. It appears the mods have taken care of it.
 
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Still whining, are we? Do you guys ever stop? BTW: the reaction was spectacular.
 
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rudeaboi or whoever didn't post the swastika. i remember that thread; it was a bloody riot. anyway, ppl shouldn't be posting swastikas in this forum, especially if they're claiming to be against anti-semitism.
 
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WilliamX2R said:
rudeaboi or whoever didn't post the swastika. i remember that thread; it was a bloody riot. anyway, ppl shouldn't be posting swastikas in this forum, especially if they're claiming to be against anti-semitism.
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Swastika, was not originally a racist symbol.

Why don't you do a search on the topic on yahoo or google and you'll see that the original swastika was a religious symbol in hindu and asian culture.

When the Nazi's came and started their crazy rule the world mission, they stole and made vulgar use out of a religious and honorable symbol. However, their swastika is different in that it is rotated to an angle, whereas ours is not shown at an angle.

So get your facts straight.
 
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gujuDoc said:
Swastika, was not originally a racist symbol.

Why don't you do a search on the topic on yahoo or google and you'll see that the original swastika was a religious symbol in hindu and asian culture.

When the Nazi's came and started their crazy rule the world mission, they stole and made vulgar use out of a religious and honorable symbol. However, their swastika is different in that it is rotated to an angle, whereas ours is not shown at an angle.

So get your facts straight.
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Oh by the way, the original old sanskrit Swastika was a symbol of good luck. Don't you dare compare our indian sacred symbols with the Nazi's way of exploiting our symbols for their sick use of representation.
 
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the swastika was on the chest of Edward Norton portraying a white supremist in the movie American History X. A pic from the movie was posted.

So does it really matter what the original intention of the symbol was when it has been adopted by others? Does it make it ok to see swastikas? I don't think so. Maybe you will criticize us for not spelling the word in its original form.

I think the point of that pic was in reply to racist statements in the thread.


gujuDoc said:
Swastika, was not originally a racist symbol.

Why don't you do a search on the topic on yahoo or google and you'll see that the original swastika was a religious symbol in hindu and asian culture.

When the Nazi's came and started their crazy rule the world mission, they stole and made vulgar use out of a religious and honorable symbol. However, their swastika is different in that it is rotated to an angle, whereas ours is not shown at an angle.

So get your facts straight.
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plus, the nazi swastika is flipped about the horizontal plane and at an angle. I have no idea what swastika was originally posted, therefore, I cannot comment.
 
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I have not seen the post from previously. But as I said, the Nazi swastika is oriented differently. It is not the same thing as the still currently and widely accepted horizontal swastika that is a symbol of GOOD LUCK in eastern cultures with the dots in each corner. Please read Sunny123's link. You might benefit from reading it, rather then acting like a bunch of ignorant idiots.
 
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you are talking about a thread you did not read and you call others ignorant?

I looked at the link and what did I learn? The picture posted was of Edward Norton portraying a white supremist and he had a swastika on his chest. The symbol is the same as the one in the link showing the flag of Nazi Germany. Someone found that offense and you chastise them with a history lesson.

Why don't you wear the symbol Edward Norton had for one week and try to convince the world it is a symbol of good luck.


gujuDoc said:
I have not seen the post from previously. But as I said, the Nazi swastika is oriented differently. It is not the same thing as the still currently and widely accepted horizontal swastika that is a symbol of GOOD LUCK in eastern cultures with the dots in each corner. Please read Sunny123's link. You might benefit from reading it, rather then acting like a bunch of ignorant idiots.
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sunny123 said:
People, read this before the worlds collide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
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stoleyerscrubz said:
you are talking about a thread you did not read and you call others ignorant?

I looked at the link and what did I learn? The picture posted was of Edward Norton portraying a white supremist and he had a swastika on his chest. The symbol is the same as the one in the link showing the flag of Nazi Germany. Someone found that offense and you chastise them with a history lesson.

Why don't you wear the symbol Edward Norton had for one week and try to convince the world it is a symbol of good luck.
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Yo go to any indian store you will find this swastika symbol there. Call the feds on them. :laugh:
 
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And they are using the symbol of Nazi Germany or the traditional symbol? :luck:

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Yo go to any indian store you will find this swastika symbol there. Call the feds on them. :laugh:
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stoleyerscrubz said:
you are talking about a thread you did not read and you call others ignorant?

I looked at the link and what did I learn? The picture posted was of Edward Norton portraying a white supremist and he had a swastika on his chest. someone found that offense and you chastise them with a history lesson.

Why don't you wear the symbol Edward Norton had for one week and try to convince the world it is a symbol of good luck. The symbol is the same as the one in the link showing the flag of Nazi Germany.
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Listen, if it was posted in the context of the Nazi version of Swastika or their disgusting misuse of our ancient symbol. Then yes you are correct and have every right to be angry and I would be offended too. However, my response was not in response to the original matter.

My response was to the person that made a generality that all Swastika's should not be used unless you are racist. meaning, they were not acknowledging the difference in the ancient Sanskriti Swastika still used today, and the tilted german nazi version of the swastika. I'm not trying to fight with you. i agree that if it was used in the nazi context, then it is OBVIOUSLY WRONG. However, don't make generalizations as broad as the one that William2xr made, which don't clarify between the tilted and horizontal swastika. The former being the racist version used by racist white supremicists, etc. The latter, being the Hindu symbol used by hindus for honor and luck.

Thanks. Please don't take offense to anything I said previously or above this sentence. I'm just saying, don't generalize all uses of Swastika as being used by racists only. If the context is racist, I am all in agreement with you. If however, it is used in the context of which one of the indians had it in their avatar, don't assume that it is naturally a racist symbol they are portraying. That is all I'm saying. Thanks again, and don't take offense. I apologize if I didn't make what I was saying clear.
 
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stoleyerscrubz said:
And they are using the symbol of Nazi Germany or the traditional symbol? :luck:
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They use the traditional symbol on indian things. The traditional symbol is horizontal not tilted. it has dots in each quadrant of the symbol. It is quite different from the tilted version the Nazi's use.
 
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gujuDoc said:
I have not seen the post from previously. But as I said, the Nazi swastika is oriented differently. It is not the same thing as the still currently and widely accepted horizontal swastika that is a symbol of GOOD LUCK in eastern cultures with the dots in each corner. Please read Sunny123's link. You might benefit from reading it, rather then acting like a bunch of ignorant idiots.
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Unfortunately, among other things, this symbol does serve as a certain indication of the dichotomy between the Western and Eastern world, or at least between the heritage of traditional / older culture, and that of the newer 20th century history...

Personally, I think the stigma of the Nazi regime has really defamed the use of this ancient symbol... if any one (at least, from a Western perspective) were to see the symbol, they would immediately associate it with that tiny window of Nazi history, overshadowing the many centuries that stem from the symbol's true orign: an origin in the peaceful, life-loving tradition of Buddhism (mahayana, etc.) and Indian culture. I think that this can be said even regardless of the symbol's orientation (left vs right, slanted vs horizontal.)

It is truly a sad and pitiful thing that such a small time span can corrupt a symbol that once stood for peace, and perhaps this is one of many testaments to our nature as humans...

Alas, I digress. The OP here was offended by the picture not by the symbol of the swastika itself, but rather the whole scene in which it was depicted, a scene taken from the movie American History X, as someone else here pointed out... anyway, at this point, let's just simply drop this matter and go back to worrying about getting our scores back... 😉
 
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stoleyerscrubz said:
And they are using the symbol of Nazi Germany or the traditional symbol? :luck:
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go into one....they need business. :laugh:
 
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crazy_cavalier said:
Unfortunately, among other things, this symbol does serve as a certain indication of the dichotomy between the Western and Eastern world, or at least between the heritage of traditional / older culture, and that of the newer 20th century history...

Personally, I think the stigma of the Nazi regime has really defamed the use of this ancient symbol... if any one (at least, from a Western perspective) were to see the symbol, they would immediately associate it with that tiny window of Nazi history, overshadowing the many centuries that stem from the symbol's true orign: an origin in the peaceful, life-loving tradition of Buddhism (mahayana, etc.) and Indian culture. I think that this can be said even regardless of the symbol's orientation (left vs right, slanted vs horizontal.)

It is truly a sad and pitiful thing that such a small time span can corrupt a symbol that once stood for peace, and perhaps this is one of many testaments to our nature as humans...

Alas, I digress. The OP here was offended by the picture not by the symbol of the swastika itself, but rather the whole scene in which it was depicted, a scene taken from the movie American History X, as someone else here pointed out... anyway, at this point, let's just simply drop this matter and go back to worrying about getting our scores back... 😉
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Thanks, yah I apologized for any misunderstanding. I agree, I'm soooo worried about scores coming out soon. Are you getting more nervous as the time is flying by and coming closer to score release????? I know I am..
 
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ok. It seemed that you were stating that ALL swastikas were ok just because of their original intent.

The post of that pic was actually to point fun at something ignorant someone posted but someone took offense to it and it was taken down.

I'm going to play Empire Earth 2 online now and commit virtual genocide.

gujuDoc said:
Listen, if it was posted in the context of the Nazi version of Swastika or their disgusting misuse of our ancient symbol. Then yes you are correct and have every right to be angry and I would be offended too. However, my response was not in response to the original matter.

My response was to the person that made a generality that all Swastika's should not be used unless you are racist. meaning, they were not acknowledging the difference in the ancient Sanskriti Swastika still used today, and the tilted german nazi version of the swastika. I'm not trying to fight with you. i agree that if it was used in the nazi context, then it is OBVIOUSLY WRONG. However, don't make generalizations as broad as the one that William2xr made, which don't clarify between the tilted and horizontal swastika. The former being the racist version used by racist white supremicists, etc. The latter, being the Hindu symbol used by hindus for honor and luck.

Thanks. Please don't take offense to anything I said previously or above this sentence. I'm just saying, don't generalize all uses of Swastika as being used by racists only. If the context is racist, I am all in agreement with you. If however, it is used in the context of which one of the indians had it in their avatar, don't assume that it is naturally a racist symbol they are portraying. That is all I'm saying. Thanks again, and don't take offense. I apologize if I didn't make what I was saying clear.
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gujuDoc said:
I agree, I'm soooo worried about scores coming out soon. Are you getting more nervous as the time is flying by and coming closer to score release????? I know I am..
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ya def, I'm just utterly restless. I'm in non-stop fidget mode :scared: :scared:

man it would be sooo sweet if this year, they (the aamc) were really on top of their game and they got our numbers back a lot earlier. the marginal increase in the cost of registration could certainly afford them a few more statisticians to magically wave their hands in the air and produce our scaled results.
 
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i dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but the nazi swastika is rotated the opposite direction of the indian religious swastika.
 
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jtank said:
i dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but the nazi swastika is rotated the opposite direction of the indian religious swastika.
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Dude, check the first page, at the bottom. It was mentioned by moi.
 
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jtank said:
i dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but the nazi swastika is rotated the opposite direction of the indian religious swastika.
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:laugh: (copyright prady)
 
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You ever go to Little India on the lower east side of NY around 12th street? How do they stay in business when I am only seeing one table full every night I walk by there!

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go into one....they need business. :laugh:
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Let it go.

😍


jtank said:
i dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but the nazi swastika is rotated the opposite direction of the indian religious swastika.
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gujuDoc said:
Swastika, was not originally a racist symbol.

Why don't you do a search on the topic on yahoo or google and you'll see that the original swastika was a religious symbol in hindu and asian culture.

When the Nazi's came and started their crazy rule the world mission, they stole and made vulgar use out of a religious and honorable symbol. However, their swastika is different in that it is rotated to an angle, whereas ours is not shown at an angle.

So get your facts straight.
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The swastika is still used by the Dali Lama.
 
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Lets not forget that the Christian cross was symbolic during the atrocity of the Inquisition, and the American flag was held up during the genocide of Native Americans. What makes them different from the swastika and the confederate flag? Only that the latter guys lost power, and the former didn't. I think every major symbol in history has seen itself used in the most despicable, and the most noble way... So is it really the symbol that matters? If someone wants to use a swastika, let them. As a Jew, I dont hate the swastika. I hate the nazis.
 
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crazy_cavalier said:
ya def, I'm just utterly restless. I'm in non-stop fidget mode :scared: :scared:

man it would be sooo sweet if this year, they (the aamc) were really on top of their game and they got our numbers back a lot earlier. the marginal increase in the cost of registration could certainly afford them a few more statisticians to magically wave their hands in the air and produce our scaled results.
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I know how you feel. I keep going to the page the aamc MCAT page, hoping there is some indication of the date we can expect scores to come out. With June approaching real soon, however, I'm sure it is going to be approaching real quickly.

I didn't do this right after the test, but lately I've been praying sooo much for a good score. We'll see. Good luck.
 
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jtank said:
i dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but the nazi swastika is rotated the opposite direction of the indian religious swastika.
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Don't worry, we already mentioned it. I think we just misunderstood stoleyscrub. I was actually originally responding to William2xr whom made an overall generalization rather then specifying what was directed to a specific connotation and denotation of the Swastika. But I think we've cleared up any confusions.

I think this thread can be closed actually. So as not to cause any conflict. Let us all whom are worrying about MCAT scores start getting back to praying for the best.
 
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