Swim Quals in Navy HPSP?

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TrojanMan48

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What and when are the swim qualifications for the Navy HPSP? I currently cannot swim proficiently (I can only do the basic doggy paddle, I can't tread water or float sufficiently. Actually I think I'm physically inable to float, lol, is that possible?) and I'd like to learn how to swim well before having to be tested for it. Anyone know?

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TrojanMan48 said:
What and when are the swim qualifications for the Navy HPSP? I currently cannot swim proficiently (I can only do the basic doggy paddle, I can't tread water or float sufficiently. Actually I think I'm physically inable to float, lol, is that possible?) and I'd like to learn how to swim well before having to be tested for it. Anyone know?


blow up some trojans... ull float... 👍 👍 :laugh:
 
espbeliever said:
blow up some trojans... ull float... 👍 👍 :laugh:


Hmmm, I'm a stocky guy though. I might have to go with Trojan Magnums to float......... 😀
 
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TrojanMan48 said:
What and when are the swim qualifications for the Navy HPSP? I currently cannot swim proficiently (I can only do the basic doggy paddle, I can't tread water or float sufficiently. Actually I think I'm physically inable to float, lol, is that possible?) and I'd like to learn how to swim well before having to be tested for it. Anyone know?

1) Jump into water from height of 10-12 ft. (I suppose it's to simulate abandon ship)

2) 'Dead-man's float' 5 min.

3) Swim (any stroke/combination of strokes) 50 ft (maybe only 25, I'm not sure)

Before you ask...Yes, all 3 are required, and not waiverable. Google 'third class swim qualifications' and 'navy', or words to those effect to find the pertinent instruction.

Hope this helps.

PS. There is still a requirement to make floatation devices out of your clothes, too, I think.
 
TrojanMan48 said:
What and when are the swim qualifications for the Navy HPSP? I currently cannot swim proficiently (I can only do the basic doggy paddle, I can't tread water or float sufficiently. Actually I think I'm physically inable to float, lol, is that possible?) and I'd like to learn how to swim well before having to be tested for it. Anyone know?

Testing Standards

Effective May 2002

Third Class Swim Test
The test consists of two modules:

Module One is composed of three separate events:

1. Enter the water feet first in the abandon ship position from a minimum height of 5 feet (we use a platform of about 10 feet).
2. Swim 50 yards using any combination of water survival strokes (American crawl, breaststroke, sidestroke and the elementary backstroke).
3. Prone float for 5 minutes.



Swimmers who successfully pass an event of Module One, do not have to repeat that particular event.

Module Two Coverall inflation.

The prone float (Module One) and Coverall inflation (Module Two) must occur in deep water (deep water is defined at water too deep to stand with mouth and nose above the surface).


Deep Water Jump

Jumps are performed from a 10 foot platform.

Swimmers must display the ability to swim to the surface unassisted.

The following standards will be applied:
Component Acceptable Performance Standards
Body Position Waist must be straight. Head held with the neck straight, eyes staring
Arms Arms must be crossed with the hand of the arm closest to the chest pinching the nose with thumb and forefinger and the little finger positioned on the bottom of the jaw beneath the chin. The hand of the arm furthest from the chest grasps the biceps and triceps of the opposing arm.
Leg Legs must be straight and crossed at the ankles.


50-Yard Swim

Immediately after entering the water, swimmers must complete a 50-yard swim without stopping, standing, or holding onto the sides of the pool. The following strokes may be used:

Breastroke

Sidestroke

Elementary Backstroke

Crawlstroke


Prone Float (face down)

A 5-minute prone float will be administered with the following acceptable standards:
Component Acceptable Performance Standards
Body Position Any face down posture is acceptable.
Arms Any arm action is acceptable, with no forward or backward swimmer movement.
Kick Any kick or no kick is acceptable, with no forward or backward swimmer movement.
Breathing Swimmer must inhale from the mouth and exhale from the mouth and nose. Breathing should be slightly above resting rate (approximate 20 breaths per minute). Breathless- ness, gasping, erratic breathing or swallowing water is unacceptable.
Coordination
Swimmer's arm and leg actions must keep him/her on the surface at all times. Swimmer must stay in the general starting location; excessive forward or backward movement (swimming) is unacceptable. SWIMMER MUST APPEAR SAFE, CALM AND RELAXED.
 
QM1 said:
Testing Standards

Effective May 2002
wow are you kidding? that is the easiest test ive ever seen. why is it so easy?!?!? seems like they are just trying to make sure you do not have a phobia of water.
 
you take the swim test the first week of OIS, and it is pretty easy for most people, that is because it is a 3rd class swim test. however i had a girl in my class who could not swim at all, but she had remediation almost every day while the rest of us had pt and eventually she passed.
 
You will be in the pool every morning until you can swim well enough to pass 3rd class- you porbably won't be alone.
PS If you are ever assigned to a Marine unit you will need to requal and pass a helo egress trainer (any unit that flies in helos or over water).
 
If you want to work on your basic swim skills, check out totalimmersion.net Terry's technique has really helped me with my lap swimming skills this summer. I decided that I want to eventually start racing triathlons, but I absolutely flailed at swimming further than 10 yards. Now I am up to workouts of around 600 meters. I am not anywhere close to where I want to be, but my technique is much better. His Happy Laps book and dvd is gearred to the non-swimmer.

Good luck,

BK
 
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