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Totally peripheral question not related to medicine and prob not the forum but might as well ask my fellow med school peeps.

Never really grew up in the household where we took vacations, but now with some dough and free time in my research year , I really wanna take initiative to take my family on week-long vacations this year/live it up outside a hospital, but I have no clue where to start.

-Basically, where are good places (both outside/inside amurica) to go to for a week-long trip (I'm sure there are different categories from sight-seeing, cruises, beaches, hiking adventure, etc...)?
-Is it better to go separate or for the all-inclusive hotel + airfare + expenses?
-How far in advance do you book the whole trip?
-What resources do you think offer good deals (Groupon, Costco vacation packages?)
-Heck, while there is variation, what range of expenses am I looking at for a week-long trip and what are ways to minimize the expenses?

Thanks.
 
A dollar you save now is worth 8x as many dollars when you are 60. Something to think about before you drop 10k taking your family on an all-inclusive.
 
Totally peripheral question not related to medicine and prob not the forum but might as well ask my fellow med school peeps.

Never really grew up in the household where we took vacations, but now with some dough and free time in my research year , I really wanna take initiative to take my family on week-long vacations this year/live it up outside a hospital, but I have no clue where to start.

-Basically, where are good places (both outside/inside amurica) to go to for a week-long trip (I'm sure there are different categories from sight-seeing, cruises, beaches, hiking adventure, etc...)?
-Is it better to go separate or for the all-inclusive hotel + airfare + expenses?
-How far in advance do you book the whole trip?
-What resources do you think offer good deals (Groupon, Costco vacation packages?)
-Heck, while there is variation, what range of expenses am I looking at for a week-long trip and what are ways to minimize the expenses?

Thanks.

Budget?
Interests?
Ages of kids?
Limitations (physical/medical/spiritual?/comfort zone/etc)?

We are quite fortunate in this country to have the National Park system and services that we do if you're looking for something relatively cheap, easy, safe, and convenient. But the world is a big place, you need to nail down what you want before you can nail down how/where/when to get it.
 
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A dollar you save now is worth 8x as many dollars when you are 60. Something to think about before you drop 10k taking your family on an all-inclusive.

Nah, better to travel when you are young and have more energy. Med students just love that delayed gratification, don't they.

OP, this depends a lot on how much you are willing to spend. Can you give us a price range? Also do you have kids, and if so how old?
 
Nah, better to travel when you are young and have more energy. Med students just love that delayed gratification, don't they.

OP, this depends a lot on how much you are willing to spend. Can you give us a price range? Also do you have kids, and if so how old?

Agreed, travel early and often.
 
-Basically, where are good places (both outside/inside amurica) to go to for a week-long trip (I'm sure there are different categories from sight-seeing, cruises, beaches, hiking adventure, etc…)?

I've been to a heck of a lot of places but probably not places most people would take children. Knowing how old they are is helpful, because certain ages cannot handle long plane rides. In general, for a 1 week trip, I find that crossing the international dateline makes for a lot of exhaustion when you return. National Parks and cities are a great idea for children; my parents took my brother and I as kids and I think it fostered my love of traveling.

-Is it better to go separate or for the all-inclusive hotel + airfare + expenses?

AI: That depends on how much you like eating and drinking; *in general* the quality of the food does not equal what you can get elsewhere. There will be a lot of it, but its not often at the standard a "foodie" would rave about. It may be worthwhile if you plan on eating and drinking a lot. They make your costs predictable because you've paid up front. But it can take you from a $400 a night room to $600 (or whatever; point being that the food and drink are generally not worth the extra cost unless you go for volume). I understand they are nice for children if you are staying at a resort with lots of kids activities, as the kids can get smoothies etc. without asking you for money or charging loads of things to the room.

Many vacation packages are cheaper if you book the hotel and airfare together, rather than separate but always check around because there are specials.

-How far in advance do you book the whole trip?

That depends on how far away you're going and whether its high season, whether you need visas, passports etc. Anything less than 2 weeks, you will pay a premium for airfare. If you are going to a popular place during high season, you may find rooms limited and activities booked if you wait until the last minute. I booked my trip to Bora Bora for October about 6 weeks ago but I'm going to Mexico in August and just booked it last week, so more time for far flung/high season places.

-What resources do you think offer good deals (Groupon, Costco vacation packages?)

Costco is not always the cheapest; I got a better deal going through a travel agent last year when I went someplace pretty remote. I typically book trips on my own but if going somewhere remote, its nice to have a travel agent who will know how to arrange airport transfers, who knows the local customs, etc.

In general, when using 3rd party booking agents (Groupon, Expedia, Travelocity etc), you are not always given the best rooms; since the prices may be cheaper than from the primary source, they tend to save the rooms with bad views, etc. Not always the case, but I've heard it so much from others that I believe that to be true.

For easy stateside trips, I use Expedia. I have friends that like Southwest but I really don't like having to log-in 24 hrs before the trip and get my seat grouping assignment. Sometimes I forget. 😛 However, Southwest does NOT charge for baggage; you may have a regional carrier which does the same. The majors generally charge $25/bag/person which can add up. If your children are young, they can probably carry on their own little bags. I do compare prices on Travelocity, Priceline etc but find that they are generally all about the same.

-Heck, while there is variation, what range of expenses am I looking at for a week-long trip and what are ways to minimize the expenses?

The range can be enormous depending on location, number of rooms, how much you want to "live it up".

Some ways to minimize expenses are with food:
1) rooms/vacation rentals with kitchens where you can prepare meal(s)
2) I save money by getting a room with breakfast included; the nicer hotels have huge breakfast buffets, so I fill up, skip lunch and then spend money on dinner
3) bring snacks from home or when you get to your destination, hit a local grocery store/Wal Mart; this is especially true for kids who seem to want to have snacks all the time. That can really eat into your budget. You can pack food into your checked luggage.

But you are on vacation, so please treat yourself and your family a little.

Every town has some free activities; whether its a museum on a Tuesday night, walking on the beach looking at shells, or free concerts in the park. These can reduce costs.

Renting a car can be cheaper if its done as a package and if you're at a destination which would require use of taxis frequently. But don't forget that urban hotels often charge for parking and it can be pricey ($48/day for Omni in Chicago IIRC).

Anyhoo, give us some more information on what you are planning.
 
i've found that if you have not grown educated with a family vacation mindset, it all can be very stressing.
I would pick my cars and tent and go to a national park.

if outdoors aint your thing, i would still keep it domestic. For the first times at least.
Do you want to stay in one place all week or you want to travel a bit. You can like check a few interest points and book hotels for like 1 and 2 days, And do a tour.
If all you want is to gather the family i recon you could book a resort, in a nice area, with good service, not very far away. That would be the best option for the kids, elderly non adventurous type . All the pros of relaxed service, not the stress of travelling abroad.

I would rather do 2 weeks of non stop hospitalist work than try to organize my family into a preplanned vacation.
 
i've found that if you have not grown educated with a family vacation mindset, it all can be very stressing.
I would pick my cars and tent and go to a national park.

if outdoors aint your thing, i would still keep it domestic. For the first times at least.
Do you want to stay in one place all week or you want to travel a bit. You can like check a few interest points and book hotels for like 1 and 2 days, And do a tour.
If all you want is to gather the family i recon you could book a resort, in a nice area, with good service, not very far away. That would be the best option for the kids, elderly non adventurous type . All the pros of relaxed service, not the stress of travelling abroad.

I would rather do 2 weeks of non stop hospitalist work than try to organize my family into a preplanned vacation.

Thanks for the feedback...should've probably prefaced it with there are ZERO kids lol...just me and my reasonably active parents. We are mostly looking into sightseeing and passive activities (being on the beach and/or doing tourism). I guess if I am heading to Hawaii/Jamaica/South America, I am looking more into the beaches scene. If I am looking into Europe or say China, I am looking more into tourism/sight seeing. At the same time, staying in America and seeing the Grand Canyons or other cool national landmarks would be cool as well. If I had a #1 preference, I would have to say going to a beach with some cool beachy-stuff to do (boating, snorkeling) combined with some tourism would be cool so perhaps going to the Caribbean or South America would be my #1 option. Not really looking into just staying inside a fancy hotel as much of seeing stuff.

Budgetwise, see I am not sure what is reasonable (maybe 5-6k for a week for all of us?) I like the ideas you guys suggested (packing food, finding rooms with kitchens + all-inclusive brunch). Just not sure what sort of agent/service(s) to use as there are clearly many steps involved.

Thanks for all your help.
 
Any of those places are a good bet, i guess.
 
I think one thing to consider is where you're from. You don't have to give exact location, but for example, if you say you're from Miami, then no one is going to suggest going to the beach for a week. Do you live in the south, the midwest, the northeast, the west, etc? Are you on a coast? Is it rural or are you in a big city, like L.A. or NYC? All of that is important as well.

Just read that you're going with your parents, which I think is wonderful. I'm not sure about leaving the country if you're just going for a week and you've never done it before. You can get the beach and city tourism here in the U.S. which might be better for your first time out.

A dollar you save now is worth 8x as many dollars when you are 60. Something to think about before you drop 10k taking your family on an all-inclusive.

Yeah, and you could be disabled or dead by the time you're 60 as well. Live in the moment, within reason. No, you shouldn't spend money you don't have, but this poster has never been on a vacation and now he's posted that he wants to go with his parents. I think it's a great idea and I would definitely take advantage of it.
 
I think one thing to consider is where you're from. You don't have to give exact location, but for example, if you say you're from Miami, then no one is going to suggest going to the beach for a week. Do you live in the south, the midwest, the northeast, the west, etc? Are you on a coast? Is it rural or are you in a big city, like L.A. or NYC? All of that is important as well.

Just read that you're going with your parents, which I think is wonderful. I'm not sure about leaving the country if you're just going for a week and you've never done it before. You can get the beach and city tourism here in the U.S. which might be better for your first time out.


Yeah, and you could be disabled or dead by the time you're 60 as well. Live in the moment, within reason. No, you shouldn't spend money you don't have, but this poster has never been on a vacation and now he's posted that he wants to go with his parents. I think it's a great idea and I would definitely take advantage of it.


Southeast, not miami but I've been to miami way too many times lol. I've done the whole MTV-ish spring break with friends stuff. Just looking into some mature family fun vacation stuff lol
 
Southeast, not miami but I've been to miami way too many times lol. I've done the whole MTV-ish spring break with friends stuff. Just looking into some mature family fun vacation stuff lol

If you want the beach the east coast has many options outside the southeast. How about the Maine coast? It's gorgeous and nothing like Miami's coast. You could go to Acadia National Park in Bar Harbor and then travel down Route 1 along the jagged coastline of Maine. Maybe go whale watching or sailing. Or you could take a cruise. They have a New England cruise that will take you to all the islands up there -- Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, Newport (RI), and several others I don't know but would like to visit.

http://www.nps.gov/acad/index.htm

http://www.americancruiselines.com/cruises/Northeast-US/maine-coast-and-harbors-cruise

http://www.americancruiselines.com/cruises/Northeast-US/new-england-islands-cruise

Another option is to go out to the Pacific coast. That might be more expensive, but you could hit up some of the beaches in Oregon, which are supposed to be gorgeous. I wouldn't do the whole L.A./Malibu thing just because it's not my scene, but you might want to look into it if you think your parents would like it.
 
Puerto Rico sounds right up your alley if you're looking for something cheaper, great beaches (Culebra is supposedly like #2 beach in the world. I dont know about that but it is beautiful) with snorkeling, bioluminescent rivers that light up as you move through them, and is pretty reasonbly priced.

Please, for the love of god, do not stay at all inclusives. Those are for bum**** hillbillies that want to eat McDonalds when they are abroad and hang around other americans. Get a hotel that's central to stuff and just explore, eat local foods, etc.
 
yes different objectives different vacations.
 
Not all all-inclusives are created equal.

I've had two fantastic vacations in a row at AIs. They are perfect vacations for residents who have a limited timeframe for vacation as you just show up, relax, and have to do zero further planning or effort.

What's the point of doing that in a foreign country you could do that in Florida California whatever.
 
If you're in the SE US there are lots of foreign places which are close and doable for a week: Cozumel/Tulum, Costa Rica or Belize and the Caribbean. I found Jamaica lacking in safety and things to do FWIW, but there are direct flights from Charlotte. The NC shore is nice as is Jekyll Island. I also did Maine during Memorial Day week during residency and although I don't care for lobster, it was a nice relaxing trip.

As southernIM notes, the AIs are convenient and are great if you don't have time/inclination to plan a trip and just want to arrive, unpack and "ahhh". Since you're going with your parents, you might want to consider an "adults only" resort as the pools in more family oriented resorts can be noisy kid central; they aren't all honeymooners and you'll find lots of old marrieds, sibling groups and friends there.

Your budget of $5K is certainly reasonable for 3 (assuming 2 rooms) for a week and you could do it for much less as well. Mexico and Central America are nice for a variety of things to do - ruins of Tulum. snorkeling in cenotes, relaxing by the pool/ocean (I'd pick Playa Maroma as one of the better, cleaner beaches); Belize has jungle trekking, zip lining, snorkeling, archaeological ruins, caves; Costa Rica has the same with some eco tourism etc.

What do your parents want to do? Do you and they have passports? What time of year are you planning?

Its making me wish I was leaving on vacation now!
 
I obviously disagree. For one, it wasn't that much money. Very comparable to other vacations I've taken.

But my point is there is different strokes for different folks. I've down activity heavy vacations (e.g. touring europe), outdoorsy heavy vacations (national parks, grand canyon, skiing, etc). For these particular trips we were both residents and working a lot of hours. As such, our wish list for the vacation included:

1. Direct flights
2. No need to rent a car/drive
3. Great weather
4. Direct access to beach. And beach related activities
5. Direct access to pool
6. Direct access to golf
7. Food
8. Booze, and lots of it
9. A nice, clean room

The AIs most easily met all of these needs, and required the least amount of planning on our part which was key. It also included a lot of free ancillary activities that we hadn't anticipated but enjoyed (free yoga classes, tequila tasting, live music, 24/7 room service, etc). The room we had was an amazing suite and had an in-room jacuzzi tub overlooking the ocean.

The food was better than I had expected. Obviously not "authentic" local cuisine but everything was fresh and well prepared and with a range of cuisine types.

The booze was great - they had 7 different mexican beers to choose from as well as american macros. The liquor selection was great and surprisingly upscale (Johnny Black, Bombay sapphire, 6 different tequilas including ones that retail for ~40 per bottle in the US, etc).

I can appreciate all those things and I realize you're limited on planning , but again my beef is that you can get all of the things on that checklist in Florida / California / Delaware / etc, while cutting out the international flight.
 
I can appreciate all those things and I realize you're limited on planning , but again my beef is that you can get all of the things on that checklist in Florida / California / Delaware / etc, while cutting out the international flight.
What's wrong with an international flight?

I understand if you're talking about crossing the IDL, but if you're talking about a 4 -6 hr flight to Florida/California/Delaware, etc. you can get to the Caribbean and Mexico in the same amount of time from many places in the US.
 
A few ideas...

Cruises:

You can take week-long cruises to the Caribbean, Bahamas, Cancun, Cozumel, etc. for easily $400-500 each or even less. Since you're in the southeast, you could probably drive to the port (usually in south florida or south carolina) or find a cheap flight. The great thing about cruises is it's all inclusive, so you don't have to worry about food, etc. Like WS said, you are paying for the quantity of food, not necessarily quality. Eat a big breakfast on the ship then find a local restaurant on whatever island you're at for lunch so you don't have to come back to the ship in the middle of the day. The dinners onboard are always really great imo. Because the trip itself is relatively cheap, you can splurge more on activities when you get off at the ports, like snorkeling, scuba diving, kayaking, jet-skiing, etc. The cruise line usually offers excursion packages for things like this, but I think its better to just find these activities on your own as once you're at the destination. Royal Caribbean has a lot of great activities onboard and usually has less teenagers and college students compared to Carnival.

(P.S. if you ever have a few weeks free to travel, there are roundtrip cruises from south Florida to England for like $300. You enjoy the pool, shows, casino, food onboard during the time you are sailing instead of being stuck on an airplane, at a fraction of the price. From there you can take trains to different European countries. Really cheap and fun way to visit Europe. But you need atleast 3-4 weeks set aside for this.)

Beach:

I second what others said about Jekyll/St. Simon's Island. Really beautiful area and renting a house and grilling/cooking is a great idea here. It's also about an hour from Savannah, GA so if you drive there you can also stop by for sightseeing in Savannah (Riverstreet Candy Shops, river cruises, haunted cemetery tours, carriage rides around the city). My family used to go here yearly when I was a child and I remember it always being a great time.

Charleston is also another great beach area/city to visit and prob driving distance from wherever you are in the southeast. Great food here, and if you go you have to stop by Hymen's Seafood Restaurant! Best Po'boy's in the world!

If you guys are really adventurous, beach camping in Florida is also a lot of fun and very cheap. This is better to do around September when it'll be a little less humid. http://www.tampabay.com/features/travel/florida/the-top-10-beach-camping-spots-in-florida/1006630

Camping:

Don't know if you guys are into camping, but there are really beautiful sites along the Appalachian Trail and Smokey Mountains in North Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee area. Or if you don't want to stay in a tent, these places usually have cabins too. You can go hiking, canoeing, kayaking. Really cheap sites and and you save on food too because you can just cook hot dogs, hamburgers, popcorn, smores on your campfire or you can get a cabin with a kitchen. I highly recommend Hot Springs Resort and Spa in North Carolina (http://nchotsprings.com/). Each cabin has it's own mineral water hot tub and you can treat yourselves to a relaxing day at the spa. Get Log Cabin #10, trust me 🙂

If you're willing to fly, camping in Yellowstone or Glacier National Park out west is an amazing experience. You can also visit the ghost town of Virginia City in Montana for some more sightseeing.

If you do decide to go camping, let me know if you need help knowing what the bring along. I grew up in a family of camping lovers haha
 
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Travelling is expensive, which is why I never did it. Especially as a very poor resident, it'll be hard to get a good week of vacation out of the country! My only options would be in the USA.

As much as I want to travel out of the US for once, it'll have to wait 10-20 years :/
 
Puerto Rico sounds right up your alley if you're looking for something cheaper, great beaches (Culebra is supposedly like #2 beach in the world. I dont know about that but it is beautiful) with snorkeling, bioluminescent rivers that light up as you move through them, and is pretty reasonbly priced.

Please, for the love of god, do not stay at all inclusives. Those are for ******* hillbillies that want to eat McDonalds when they are abroad and hang around other americans. Get a hotel that's central to stuff and just explore, eat local foods, etc.

That's because the average American wants to stick with other Americans 😛

It's the minority of the U.S that wants to step out of that comfort zone!
 
Heading to Cancun in a couple of days - it's a great place if you're looking for a "typical" touristy beach type vacation. Depending on where you're coming from, it can also be fairly cheap. Being from Texas it wasn't unheard of to get round trip tickets to Cancun for $300 or so. I've also been to Aruba a few times and would definitely recommend that for a similar touristy beach type vacation with an overall more luxurious feel. Jamaica is a cool spot in the Caribbean but can be irritating at times - you'll be hounded by pretty much everyone to buy everything from food to ganja. There are worse things in life, but something to keep in mind. However, if you're willing to go off the beaten path, it can be a fairly cheap vacation with great food, wonderful people, and nice beaches.

If you want the best bang for your buck for a typical touristy vacation, I'd absolutely recommend a cruise - especially if you're close to a port (usually Galveston, Miami, or NYC). Everything is paid for, you get to see a few different places, and depending upon what kind of accommodations you want and how flexible your schedule is you can easily get tickets for a 7-day cruise to the Caribbean for $450-700/person. Keep in mind that includes all meals and drinks (with the exception of alcohol).

I must admit that I'm a typical 'Murican and haven't done much wholesome travel, but beach vacations are a great way to chill and unwind for a few days. I'm not the kind of person that enjoys doing a million things when I'm on vacation, so if you're the kind of person ignore everything I said.
 
Bah. Everything south of the mason Dixon is ??????!?!?!

South beach is okay but probably not what you're looking for.

close to America places: Turks and Caicos, vieques in PR, medellin(allegedly more safe now), and your standard spring break-y destinations of cancun/playa del whatever/DR/Atlantis



some of Europe is also doable in a week..maybe like Spain?
 
Camping:

Don't know if you guys are into camping, but there are really beautiful sites along the Appalachian Trail and Smokey Mountains in North Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee area. Or if you don't want to stay in a tent, these places usually have cabins too. You can go hiking, canoeing, kayaking. Really cheap sites and and you save on food too because you can just cook hot dogs, hamburgers, popcorn, smores on your campfire or you can get a cabin with a kitchen. I highly recommend Hot Springs Resort and Spa in North Carolina (http://nchotsprings.com/). Each cabin has it's own mineral water hot tub and you can treat yourselves to a relaxing day at the spa. Get Log Cabin #10, trust me 🙂

If you're willing to fly, camping in Yellowstone or Glacier National Park out west is an amazing experience. You can also visit the ghost town of Virginia City in Montana for some more sightseeing.

If you do decide to go camping, let me know if you need help knowing what the bring along. I grew up in a family of camping lovers haha

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NY State is pretty decent. NYC, is a nice place to visit but you couldn't pay me to live there....
 
Did an AI and it was great. The food was good and it's just so convenient having everything available to you whenever you want. If you go to a big AI, you can spend a week there, go on a few excursions and still not see everything in the resort. 10/10 would recommend. Really like Riviera Maya. Also yeah the difference in the adults only ones and "family friendly" or whatever we'd call the opposite is pretty big. Adults only AI are off the chain.
 
Between MS-1 and MS-2, my husband and I took a cruise from NYC to Bermuda and back. It was GREAT! My in-laws watched our kids and it was basically a second honeymoon.

As it was a cruise, it was basically all-inclusive. The whole vacation was very relaxing and Bermuda was very cool. It was a pretty affordable trip. Cruising from NYC for us was great because we didn't have to spend any extra money on airfare, and the trip was about half what it would be to fly to Bermuda and stay there a few days. The trip itself was $1700-1800 for both and then we spent a bit more on certain meals plus souvenirs and excursions at whatnot. It was 2 full days at sea after we left from NYC, 3 days in Bermuda, and another day at sea and we arrived in the morning. Bermuda's got some great history to it. Where our ship was docked (King's Wharf) had been a fort/naval yard that had a museum in it. We took a ferry to the opposite side of the island (St. George) where there were lots of old churches and other buildings as well, plus all the brightly colored houses. There are horse and carriage drivers that will take you on a tour in/around the town and tell you all this history and stop for photo-ops by old bits of forts and look-outs and whatnot. We did a shipwreck snorkeling excursion and there are a bunch of absolutely beautiful beaches. I loved it and I think it would be a great option for you and your parents based on what you listed.

Next year, right after graduation, I finally got my husband to agree to taking our kids to Disney World. I cannot WAIT, but I don't think that's what you had in mind. I'm stoked, though!
 
Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic.
 
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