Tarasoff and duty to warn

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What are the details of duty to warn?

We had a case where guy wasn’t expressing HI, but when discharged confronted a neighbor who was aggravating him. I know each state has their own laws that define what is reasonable and prudent, but how far are we expected to go? What if target is identified, but you have no way of contacting them? Are you able to notify the apartment manager, or police to notify the target? And how does this play into HIPPA as who we are allowed to contact?

And where can I find details of the law? The article was available on pubmed.

And sorry for all the questions. Just a resident trying to learn

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State laws will vary, here is a good summary of applicable standards in California: No Duty to Warn in California: Now Unambiguously Solely a Duty to Protect.

Basically, if there is a specific credible threat against an identified individual then you have a duty to warn (or in some jurisdictions a broader duty to protect). If you can't reach the individual then contacting police would also likely discharge your duty (check your local standards to make sure). In the case you mentioned where the individual made no threats but became aggressive toward a neighbor after discharge, Tarasoff does not apply because he had not informed you of any specific credible threat.
 
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What are the details of duty to warn?

We had a case where guy wasn’t expressing HI, but when discharged confronted a neighbor who was aggravating him. I know each state has their own laws that define what is reasonable and prudent, but how far are we expected to go? What if target is identified, but you have no way of contacting them? Are you able to notify the apartment manager, or police to notify the target? And how does this play into HIPPA as who we are allowed to contact?

And where can I find details of the law? The article was available on pubmed.

And sorry for all the questions. Just a resident trying to learn
Tarasoff I and II are easily accessible via a Google search but Tarasoff I was a bit narrower ('duty to warn') whereas Tarasoff II involved a broader 'duty to protect' which could be satisfied by warning, hospitalization, increasing frequency of sessions, prescribing meds, etc. I believe that the general legal issue would be that of 'foreseeability' of harm based on the facts that you know or (perhaps) should know with reference to standards of care/practice within your professional field.

There is a rather famous case of a psychiatrist being held liable when a patient he released from the hospital harmed someone who was not someone he specifically named as a target but the details elude me at the moment (it's in a 'Landmark Cases in Forensic Psychiatry' book of some sort). Some of the more experienced forensic folks on SDN probably know this literature and the law better.

Of course, state laws vary in their language (and it is critical to know yours) but they generally involve specific threats (with intent) to do imminent and serious bodily harm.

When this sort of thing comes up, I always 'lean into' the topic with a patient and get really specific regarding such things as (a) when was the last time they were ever physically violent with anyone (and history of violence); (b) to what degree do they actually intend to confront the person (seek them out) or even attempt to verbally/physically engage them in anger if they 'run into' them (and, relatedly, how likely is it that they are going to encounter them); (c) assess their understanding of the consequences of any physical violence on their part (injury/death, prison, loss of job); (d) (if they will do it) engage in some form of intervention with them (even brief) regarding rehearsing what they plan to do if they should happen to run into the person and/or some other cognitive-behavioral intervention for anger (even if it is just counting to 10 and relaxation/ arousal reduction or helping them develop a 'coping card' with coping statements); (e) even better if you have time (and their compliance) to develop a written 'anger control plan' complete with triggers, reasons to control their anger and not act aggressively, and a list of coping skills and/or contacts they can reach out to if they find they are becoming angry.

If you 'lean in' to explicitly spoken (or even hinted) expressions of anger directed toward another person then, 9 times out of 10, you'll find that they back off and make it clear that they are not making an actual threat, that they realize that if they were to be violent that it would be very bad for them (loss of job, jail time, etc.) and they will usually be very direct in saying that they don't plan on confronting the person or initiating violence against them. Of course, they will sometimes say that if aggression/violence is initiated against them then they will defend themselves but, I mean, that goes for all of us. And, living in a region of the country where many people are carrying firearms, I'm not sure that executing a 'duty to warn' phone call is necessarily innocuous or necessarily 'making everyone safer' 100% of the time, especially if the legal criteria (per state law) for 'duty to warn' statutes aren't met. I find it an increasingly troubling aspect of the 'we're going to ensure safety for everyone 100% of the time' philosophy that some of the things people might do could actually end up INCREASING risk for the patient and other members of the public rather than decreasing risk (if they're not necessary).

Regarding HIPAA, they have their own specific language and I just Googled and pulled this off the HHS website:

What constitutes a “serious and imminent” threat that would permit a health care provider to disclose PHI to prevent harm to the patient, another person, or the public without the patient’s authorization or permission?​


Answer:​

HIPAA expressly defers to the professional judgment of health professionals in making determinations about the nature and severity of the threat to health or safety posed by a patient. OCR would not second guess a health professional’s good faith belief that a patient poses a serious and imminent threat to the health or safety of the patient or others and that the situation requires the disclosure of patient information to prevent or lessen the threat. Health care providers may disclose the necessary protected health information to anyone who is in a position to prevent or lessen the threatened harm, including family, friends, caregivers, and law enforcement, without a patient’s permission.
 
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how far are we expected to go?
You're expected to take reasonable steps to inform/protect the individual being threatened. I will attempt to contact the individual if able, if making multiple attempts without response leave some kind of VM or message with documentation of the multiple attempts, or if unable to contact them then report the threat to the proper authorities (police).

What if target is identified, but you have no way of contacting them? Are you able to notify the apartment manager, or police to notify the target?
Contact the police. Warning: this can get messy. I once had to play phone tag with 3 different jurisdictions, the one we were physically located in, the one where the patient lived, and the one where the threatened individual lived. Each office said I was supposed to report to one of the other two. I ended up calling each back and informing them what the other offices said and documented that. If the patient actually attacked the target, then lawyers had plenty of choices of who to go after other than me.

And how does this play into HIPPA as who we are allowed to contact?
As said above, if you think there is a legitimate threat to an individual then HIPAA no longer applies. Ideally, contact the individual and if they're a minor then their guardians as well as CPS. If unable to be contacted, then contact the police and ask that they get in contact with the individual. Your duty to warn/protect at that point will generally supersede any patient privacy laws you'd be concerned about.
 
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A lot of this depends on state laws.
Here's Ohio's laws.
(A) The purpose of this policy is to implement the duty to protect requirements per section 2305.51 of the Revised Code.

(B) This policy shall apply to all mental health professionals employed or contracted by Ohio department of mental health hospitals.

(C) Definitions:

(1) "Independently-licensed mental health professional" means psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, counselors and clinical nurse specialists licensed to independently provide mental health services.

(2) "Knowledgeable person" means any person who has reason to believe that a patient has the intent and ability to carry out an explicit threat of inflicting imminent and serious physical harm to a clearly identifiable potential victim(s), who is either an immediate family member of the patient, an employee of the hospital, or an individual who, otherwise, personally knows the patient.

(3) "Mental health professional" means any individual who is licensed, certified or registered under the Revised Code, or otherwise authorized in this state, to provide mental health services.

(D) Procedures:

(1) Any mental health professional to whom an explicit threat of serious physical harm to another person or persons or identifiable structure is made, or who is made aware by a knowledgeable person of an explicit threat made by a patient, will initiate the duty to protect process.

(2) Any explicit threat by a patient shall be promptly communicated by the mental health professional who heard the threat or was made aware of the threat, to a registered nurse or psychiatrist on the patient's treatment team. The treatment team shall determine, based on the patient's history and current condition, whether the threat represents a credible danger to others.

(a) If the treatment team does not consider the threat to be a credible danger to others, this decision and the reason for this determination shall be documented in the medical record.

(b) If the treatment team considers the threat to be a credible danger, the threat shall be reported promptly by the treatment team to the chief clinical officer or designee of the hospital.

(3) The chief clinical officer or designee of the hospital shall assign an independently-licensed mental health professional to conduct a face-to-face evaluation with the patient as soon as possible after receiving notification of the threat, but no longer than two working days, in order to give a second opinion risk assessment of the threat.

(4) If the independently-licensed mental health professional determines that the threat does not meet the threshold requiring discharge of the duty to protect (e.g., threat is not imminent), this assessment should be documented on a form authorized by the regional psychiatric hospital (RPH) or in a progress note in the medical record.

(a) Each RPH shall establish policies and procedures that assure patient re-evaluation occurs prior to the patient being discharged or receiving unsupervised movement, including placing a "Duty to Protect" sticker on the patient's chart and adding a "Duty to Protect" problem on the treatment plan. (See Appendix 1 [DMH-0040a] for "Duty to Protect Tracking Form" which may be used by the RPH to monitor procedure compliance).

(b) The independently-licensed mental health professional shall record, in a progress note or indicate on a RPH form, that the patient does not have either the intent or ability to carry out the threat and record the reason(s) for this conclusion.

(c) Other clinical recommendations may be considered for this patient and should be documented as appropriate in the medical record.

(5) If the independently-licensed mental health professional determines that there is an explicit threat of imminent and serious physical harm and there is reason to believe the patient has the intent and ability to carry out the threat, the independently-licensed mental health professional completing the RPH form or documenting this assessment in a progress note in the medical record, must address each of the relevant options to discharge the duty to protect in section 2305.51 of the Revised Code and indicate the reason(s) each was, or was not, chosen.

(a) Since the patient in these instances is already hospitalized, the relevant options for further action under section 2305.51 of the Revised Code for discharging the duty to protect are as follows:

(i) Establishing and undertaking a treatment plan that is reasonably calculated to eliminate the possibility that the patient will carry out the threat (having performed this second opinion risk assessment consultation); and

(ii) Communicating to a law enforcement agency either where the victim or patient resides and, if feasible, communicating with the potential victim(s) and/or guardian(s) about the threat;

(b) If the option chosen by the independently-licensed mental health professional is to warn the potential victim(s) and appropriate law enforcement agency, the independently-licensed mental health professional shall notify the chief clinical officer (or designee) who will designate the person to give the warning;

(i) The information about who was warned, what information was shared, and the time of the warning shall be documented on the RPH form (Appendix 2 [DMH-0040]) or in the progress note in the medical record; and

(ii) Information shared should be restricted to the name and the description of the patient, the nature of the threat, and the name of potential victim(s) and/or potential structure threatened.

(6) Progress notes in the medical record should reflect any contacts with consultants, chief clinical officer (or designee), or the patient's treatment team as appropriate.

(7) The RPH authorized form, or a copy of the progress notes about the threat should be filed in the legal section of the medical record. A copy should be forwarded to the legal assurance administrator of the hospital.

(8) If the threat is considered to be serious but not imminent, and the independently-licensed mental health professional believes the threat should be re-evaluated closer to unsupervised movement, conditional release or discharge of the patient, the independently-licensed mental health professional will contact the treatment team social worker who will affix or cause to be affixed, a prominent sticker on the front of the patient's medical record noting a "Duty to Protect" and add a "Duty to Protect" problem to the treatment plan.

(9) When a "Duty to Protect" sticker is affixed to the medical record and a problem is added to the treatment plan, prior to unsupervised movement, conditional release or discharge, the treatment team social worker will notify the chief clinical officer (or designee) who will assign an independently-licensed mental health professional to conduct a face-to-face re-evaluation of the presence or absence of the threat, and if present, the credibility of the threat.

(10) If a patient with a "Duty to Protect" problem goes AWOL from a RPH, the treatment team (or on evenings, weekends, and holidays, the nurse manager) shall promptly give a recommendation to the chief clinical officer regarding warning law enforcement and, if feasible, potential victims in the community.

(11) In all re-evaluations, the independently-licensed mental health professional should locate the original RPH form or progress notes about the threat in the medical record or in the file of the legal assurance administrator.

(a) After the face-to-face re-evaluation, a new RPH authorized form or medical record progress note shall be completed and filed in the legal section of the medical record with a copy to the legal assurance administrator.

(i) If no active serious threat is present, this should be noted on the RPH form or in a progress note and no further formal action is necessary;

(ii) If an active, serious, and imminent threat remains, this should be documented on the RPH form or in a progress note and the actions identified in paragraphs (D)(5) to (D)(7) of this rule should be followed. In addition, the independently-licensed mental health professional shall promptly notify the treatment team for appropriate action regarding the pending unsupervised movement, conditional release, or discharge.

Here's Missouri's laws.
 
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A lot of this depends on state laws.
Here's Ohio's laws.
(A) The purpose of this policy is to implement the duty to protect requirements per section 2305.51 of the Revised Code.

(B) This policy shall apply to all mental health professionals employed or contracted by Ohio department of mental health hospitals.

(C) Definitions:

(1) "Independently-licensed mental health professional" means psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, counselors and clinical nurse specialists licensed to independently provide mental health services.

(2) "Knowledgeable person" means any person who has reason to believe that a patient has the intent and ability to carry out an explicit threat of inflicting imminent and serious physical harm to a clearly identifiable potential victim(s), who is either an immediate family member of the patient, an employee of the hospital, or an individual who, otherwise, personally knows the patient.

(3) "Mental health professional" means any individual who is licensed, certified or registered under the Revised Code, or otherwise authorized in this state, to provide mental health services.

(D) Procedures:

(1) Any mental health professional to whom an explicit threat of serious physical harm to another person or persons or identifiable structure is made, or who is made aware by a knowledgeable person of an explicit threat made by a patient, will initiate the duty to protect process.

(2) Any explicit threat by a patient shall be promptly communicated by the mental health professional who heard the threat or was made aware of the threat, to a registered nurse or psychiatrist on the patient's treatment team. The treatment team shall determine, based on the patient's history and current condition, whether the threat represents a credible danger to others.

(a) If the treatment team does not consider the threat to be a credible danger to others, this decision and the reason for this determination shall be documented in the medical record.

(b) If the treatment team considers the threat to be a credible danger, the threat shall be reported promptly by the treatment team to the chief clinical officer or designee of the hospital.

(3) The chief clinical officer or designee of the hospital shall assign an independently-licensed mental health professional to conduct a face-to-face evaluation with the patient as soon as possible after receiving notification of the threat, but no longer than two working days, in order to give a second opinion risk assessment of the threat.

(4) If the independently-licensed mental health professional determines that the threat does not meet the threshold requiring discharge of the duty to protect (e.g., threat is not imminent), this assessment should be documented on a form authorized by the regional psychiatric hospital (RPH) or in a progress note in the medical record.

(a) Each RPH shall establish policies and procedures that assure patient re-evaluation occurs prior to the patient being discharged or receiving unsupervised movement, including placing a "Duty to Protect" sticker on the patient's chart and adding a "Duty to Protect" problem on the treatment plan. (See Appendix 1 [DMH-0040a] for "Duty to Protect Tracking Form" which may be used by the RPH to monitor procedure compliance).

(b) The independently-licensed mental health professional shall record, in a progress note or indicate on a RPH form, that the patient does not have either the intent or ability to carry out the threat and record the reason(s) for this conclusion.

(c) Other clinical recommendations may be considered for this patient and should be documented as appropriate in the medical record.

(5) If the independently-licensed mental health professional determines that there is an explicit threat of imminent and serious physical harm and there is reason to believe the patient has the intent and ability to carry out the threat, the independently-licensed mental health professional completing the RPH form or documenting this assessment in a progress note in the medical record, must address each of the relevant options to discharge the duty to protect in section 2305.51 of the Revised Code and indicate the reason(s) each was, or was not, chosen.

(a) Since the patient in these instances is already hospitalized, the relevant options for further action under section 2305.51 of the Revised Code for discharging the duty to protect are as follows:

(i) Establishing and undertaking a treatment plan that is reasonably calculated to eliminate the possibility that the patient will carry out the threat (having performed this second opinion risk assessment consultation); and

(ii) Communicating to a law enforcement agency either where the victim or patient resides and, if feasible, communicating with the potential victim(s) and/or guardian(s) about the threat;

(b) If the option chosen by the independently-licensed mental health professional is to warn the potential victim(s) and appropriate law enforcement agency, the independently-licensed mental health professional shall notify the chief clinical officer (or designee) who will designate the person to give the warning;

(i) The information about who was warned, what information was shared, and the time of the warning shall be documented on the RPH form (Appendix 2 [DMH-0040]) or in the progress note in the medical record; and

(ii) Information shared should be restricted to the name and the description of the patient, the nature of the threat, and the name of potential victim(s) and/or potential structure threatened.

(6) Progress notes in the medical record should reflect any contacts with consultants, chief clinical officer (or designee), or the patient's treatment team as appropriate.

(7) The RPH authorized form, or a copy of the progress notes about the threat should be filed in the legal section of the medical record. A copy should be forwarded to the legal assurance administrator of the hospital.

(8) If the threat is considered to be serious but not imminent, and the independently-licensed mental health professional believes the threat should be re-evaluated closer to unsupervised movement, conditional release or discharge of the patient, the independently-licensed mental health professional will contact the treatment team social worker who will affix or cause to be affixed, a prominent sticker on the front of the patient's medical record noting a "Duty to Protect" and add a "Duty to Protect" problem to the treatment plan.

(9) When a "Duty to Protect" sticker is affixed to the medical record and a problem is added to the treatment plan, prior to unsupervised movement, conditional release or discharge, the treatment team social worker will notify the chief clinical officer (or designee) who will assign an independently-licensed mental health professional to conduct a face-to-face re-evaluation of the presence or absence of the threat, and if present, the credibility of the threat.

(10) If a patient with a "Duty to Protect" problem goes AWOL from a RPH, the treatment team (or on evenings, weekends, and holidays, the nurse manager) shall promptly give a recommendation to the chief clinical officer regarding warning law enforcement and, if feasible, potential victims in the community.

(11) In all re-evaluations, the independently-licensed mental health professional should locate the original RPH form or progress notes about the threat in the medical record or in the file of the legal assurance administrator.

(a) After the face-to-face re-evaluation, a new RPH authorized form or medical record progress note shall be completed and filed in the legal section of the medical record with a copy to the legal assurance administrator.

(i) If no active serious threat is present, this should be noted on the RPH form or in a progress note and no further formal action is necessary;

(ii) If an active, serious, and imminent threat remains, this should be documented on the RPH form or in a progress note and the actions identified in paragraphs (D)(5) to (D)(7) of this rule should be followed. In addition, the independently-licensed mental health professional shall promptly notify the treatment team for appropriate action regarding the pending unsupervised movement, conditional release, or discharge.

Here's Missouri's laws.

Wow...just...wow. That is so extensively proceduralized.

This section is interesting:
"Establishing and undertaking a treatment plan that is reasonably calculated to eliminate the possibility that the patient will carry out the threat (having performed this second opinion risk assessment consultation)"

"reasonably calculated to eliminate the possibility that the patient will carry out the threat."

Really? 'Eliminate the possibility' that the patient will carry out the threat? Like...giving them life in prison or something? Cutting off their arms?

I don't think it's reasonable to expect anyone to pen a treatment plan that 'eliminates the possibility' of someone carrying out a threat.

This is what I'm talking about with all this crap of trying to 'eliminate suicide' or 'eliminate the possibility of violence.' It's absurd on its face.
 
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What is going on could be in the devil in the detail of the state's laws. This is why I provided two different state's laws. So you can read each and see the differences.
Look up the laws in your own state. That's the starting point. If you're in residency start becoming real friendly with the hospital lawyer. There were times where as a resident and as an attending I sometimes had to call the hospital lawyer multiple times a day.

If you're going to move acquaint yourself with the laws of the new state.
 
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What is going on could be in the devil in the detail of the state's laws. This is why I provided two different state's laws. So you can read each and see the differences.
Look up the laws in your own state. That's the starting point. If you're in residency start becoming real friendly with the hospital lawyer. There were times where as a resident and as an attending I sometimes had to call the hospital lawyer multiple times a day.

If you're going to move acquaint yourself with the laws of the new state.
Definitely have to be up on one's specific state laws. Some mandate a duty to warn/protect, some allow it (permissive but not mandated), some do neither.

And, even among the compulsory duty to warn/protect states, some laws are extremely terse while others are incredibly proceduralized and involved.
 
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