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New attending here. Wanted to tap the wisdom of my EM veterans. I am an IC with a LLC taxed as an S-Corp. What all should I be deducting as business expenses for maximal tax savings?
Not true and its not hard for an EM doc especially a new young hungry one to make over 400k. No issue being a sole prop but LLC offers some benefits (state dependent). Can have some tax advantages depending on how you pay yourself. Can save on Medicare taxes at the very least.First of all, why are you an LLC? Unless you are pulling over 400k, you are probably better suited to just be a sole prop. Accountants want you to be an LLC to increase complexity and to generate more revenue for themselves.
Not true and its not hard for an EM doc especially a new young hungry one to make over 400k. No issue being a sole prop but LLC offers some benefits (state dependent). Can have some tax advantages depending on how you pay yourself. Can save on Medicare taxes at the very least.
First of all, why are you an LLC? Unless you are pulling over 400k, you are probably better suited to just be a sole prop. Accountants want you to be an LLC to increase complexity and to generate more revenue for themselves.
Meh.
If you make < 400k and pay yourself a a reasonable profit share from the LLC (one that is not going to flag you with the IRS), its pretty hard to make it worthwhile.
My accountant did the math for me (for income ~380k) and I would have saved maybe 1k/yr. Not worth it to me for all the added complexity. Sole prop so much easier - and he agreed. I feel like he's incentivised financially to push for LLC too.
OP you working for a CMG? I highly suggest you don't.
Check out White Coat Investor. Most financially astute people say it's not worth it.That's a whole different conversation. Let's stay on topic.
I formed an S-corp for the new job. We will see how things go, but most folks I talked to say they save about $5,000-$6,000 a year this way. Not much, but enough to make it worth your while and have a CPA manage it. That's a nice vacation each year.
Bottom line though is that you should have a CPA do the calculation for your circumstance. Remember to factor in cost of s Corp return and payroll management .Check out White Coat Investor. Most financially astute people say it's not worth it.
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Only difference is if you have ownership in something. Then the K1s and other things make it fairly complex to begin with.I concluded after 2 years of doing an S-corp that it wasn't worth it. The fees I had to pay to the payroll company, as well as the accountant ate up most of the savings. I found I still had to do a ton of paperwork and paperwork for local taxes, UI, and modified business tax. Just not worth the time/effort at the end of the day to save a little bit.
Again it all depends. Also, especially if you make a lot you could hire your wife and/or kids to help manage your career. There are some benefits there. To be clear I am a w-2 employee with some 1099 income that is paid to me as an individual but that number is tiny (under 10k).
I think you need an accountant. The more you make the more you will make it worthwhile.
Is that your total receipts or your profit (after subtracting out your solo 401k and other expenses)?I make >$400,000
You don't need a corporation to be able to do this, just fyi.Agree with the above, what I am going to try and do for this year. Im in a community property state, so apparently can do a qualified joint venture with the wife, have her put in about 500 hours of work a year (scheduling, cme, etc), and then she gets a proportion of my llc pay and can open a solo 401k, Decided to get solar panels this year also since its 30% tax savings for this year. Had to take out a solar loan but its something like 3 % interest so, minimal and worth it in the long run.
Check out White Coat Investor. Most financially astute people say it's not worth it.
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Jim (white coat investor) himself switched to S corp. He himself says that he thinks he should have done it a little while ago.
Also.... LLC doesn't give complexity. Llc isn't a tax status. You can be taxed as a sole proprietor when an LLC, you choose the tax designation. Last year my LLC as sole proprietor was essentially just a pass through entity.
S corp is what beings in the complexity. The increased complexity is not an issue if you have an accountant do your taxes and handle the added complexity. I plan on switching to S corp next year (~450k income). I'll save roughly 2k after paying the accountant and payroll. Infact, it will make my life easier because someone else will deal with my taxes.
Plus, the accountant cost is also a business deduction
Exactly. One if your earlier posts questioned why he is an LLC as it increases complexity. LLC doesn't, you can be a sole proprietor as LLC with basically no complexity whatsoever.
First mistake is having a sep ira instead of a solo 401k as you currently cannot do a backdoor Roth IRA.Anyone have an extra baby for me to adopt? Ugh, I've made $500k so far and will make $120k more before end of year and I'm pretty sure these next 2 months pay are going straight to tax. I dont have enough to deduct, I guess, I can max out my SEP-IRA and buy a small property?
I rent because of this job, can I deduct that rent?
I paid 26% tax last year, how much are you all paying?
My job doesn't allow LLCs and S-corp sounds painful.
Yes, you still can. It's just a little more complicated is allFirst mistake is having a sep ira instead of a solo 401k as you currently cannot do a backdoor Roth IRA.
Deductions Ive made so far.
Mileage
Contract review lawyer
Accountant
Car maintenance expenses
License fees etc
20 percent of my cell phone and internet cost
Electronics (laptop last year)
Quarterly tax payment fee (i use a 3 percent credit card to pay taxes. Cost of using credit card is 1.87 percent. I get back 3 percent on the card. And then i deduct the 1.87 percent fee as a business expense)
Disability insurance
Cme stuff
I use QuickBooks for all my expenses and mileage tracking. Makes everything a breeze. Have an upcoming sit down with an accountant in a couple of weeks. Curious to see if he takes out any deductions or adds anything that I'm missing.
Yes, you still can. It's just a little more complicated is all
Be careful deducting disability insurance. If you deduct the premium now, then the benefit is taxable if you end up needing it.
Vice versa, if you pay for it with post-tax dollars (as I do) then the benefit is non-taxable. Might want to change it up.
Pro rata rule.
Deductions Ive made so far.
Mileage
Contract review lawyer
Accountant
Car maintenance expenses
License fees etc
20 percent of my cell phone and internet cost
Electronics (laptop last year)
Quarterly tax payment fee (i use a 3 percent credit card to pay taxes. Cost of using credit card is 1.87 percent. I get back 3 percent on the card. And then i deduct the 1.87 percent fee as a business expense)
Disability insurance
Cme stuff
I use QuickBooks for all my expenses and mileage tracking. Makes everything a breeze. Have an upcoming sit down with an accountant in a couple of weeks. Curious to see if he takes out any deductions or adds anything that I'm missing.
Which credit card gives 3% back? Or are you calculating it in airline miles?
Alliant signature. It's 3 percent for the first year, I'm still enjoying that time. 2.5 percent after. 99 annual fee. Makes up for it if you pay 100k in taxes
How much does the IRS charge in fees if you pay your tax bill with a credit card?
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1.87% fee. Getting back 3% this year, 2.5% next. Then deducting the 1.87% fee as a business expense which the IRS allows, so essentially get a 35 percent discount on that fee on top of the differential. That's an extra $1500-2000 in my pocket.
Pro rata rule.
The Backdoor Roth: Investing in a Roth IRA for High Earners
I love my Roth IRA. I was lucky in that my dad pushed me to open one the moment I started earning money that was reported on a W-2. The Roth IRA waswallethacks.com
What card are you using to get 3% back? Most cards I know will only give 1.5% on general purchases. Right now the Chase Freedom has 3% back on purchases up to $20K so you must be using a card with temporary bonus spend.
I use the fidelity visa. 2% cash back on everything and no cap or annual fee.
also there is no need to only deduct a portion of phone. That’s old school tax law. Now u can deduct it all. off topic but if you make a good bit of money as a 1099 you should seriously consider a defined benefit plan for yourself. You can put a boatload of money in your retirement on top of the normal ~55k. In your early 40s it is over 100k. Some expenses with it but saving 35+% is well worth it IMO.
Then u stop the db plan. WCi has a post on them.I've stopped using my citi double cash now mostly because of the alliant.
I really do want to educate myself more about defined benefit plan, I've looked into it very superficially. Once these board exams are done, it's the next thing I'm going to look into. The only problem i have is that i don't know if I'll continue being 1099 after a couple of years when I'm job hunting again.
I've stopped using my citi double cash now mostly because of the alliant.
I really do want to educate myself more about defined benefit plan, I've looked into it very superficially. Once these board exams are done, it's the next thing I'm going to look into. The only problem i have is that i don't know if I'll continue being 1099 after a couple of years when I'm job hunting again.
Anyone have an extra baby for me to adopt? Ugh, I've made $500k so far and will make $120k more before end of year and I'm pretty sure these next 2 months pay are going straight to tax. I dont have enough to deduct, I guess, I can max out my SEP-IRA and buy a small property?
I rent because of this job, can I deduct that rent?
I paid 26% tax last year, how much are you all paying?
My job doesn't allow LLCs and S-corp sounds painful.
totally agree, my defined benefit plan is one of the best financial decisions I've ever made. mine costs me $2500/y (which is written off as a business expense), but has saved me hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes.I use the fidelity visa. 2% cash back on everything and no cap or annual fee.
also there is no need to only deduct a portion of phone. That’s old school tax law. Now u can deduct it all. off topic but if you make a good bit of money as a 1099 you should seriously consider a defined benefit plan for yourself. You can put a boatload of money in your retirement on top of the normal ~55k. In your early 40s it is over 100k. Some expenses with it but saving 35+% is well worth it IMO.
totally agree, my defined benefit plan is one of the best financial decisions I've ever made. mine costs me $2500/y (which is written off as a business expense), but has saved me hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes.
For people making much more money than they spend, a DBP is an excellent option.
umm why? Im in my early 40s and The amount you can put in is based on age my max number for next year is over 110k. If you do it as a 1099 there are major advantages of doing it over your employer though it will cost you money.You mention board exams, which makes me think you're young. A DB plan really shouldn't start until your 50's.
You mention board exams, which makes me think you're young. A DB plan really shouldn't start until your 50's.
Strongly disagree. I’m 40 and my DBP has been huge. My marginal tax rate is just a hair under 50% and using a cash balance plan combined with our 401k/profit sharing plan has made it easy to put aside ~100k/yr pretax. If I waited until 50 I would have missed out on >$500k into the plan while paying an additional $250k in taxes.
Strongly disagree. I’m 40 and my DBP has been huge. My marginal tax rate is just a hair under 50% and using a cash balance plan combined with our 401k/profit sharing plan has made it easy to put aside ~100k/yr pretax. If I waited until 50 I would have missed out on >$500k into the plan while paying an additional $250k in taxes.
My actual money is in an account at Vanguard. I use a local pension/retirement consultancy in Houston for the paperwork and actuarial data, etc.Which company do you have your defined benefit plan with? My new job has one, but I'm not eligible to join it for at least 24 months.