Teacher's Pets in MS1

[Bernd]

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So these people are just bizarre. They're gunners, but they're so much more than gunners. They arrive every morning at 7:45 to land a spot in the front row. They have bubbly smiles, and they dress nice and have perfect hair. (One of them even wears a tie sometimes just for the hell of it). They raise their hands and ask abstracted questions and nod vigorously to show how intently engaged they are during lecture. When you talk to them after class they say how much they loved the lecture and how they can't wait to hit the library. Honestly, if the rest of the class wasn't there they would put an apple on the podium. It's like these elementary school teacher's pets somehow did a disappearing act during college and have suddenly reappeared in medical school.

 

[kcrd]

Just wait until you encounter these students on your MS3 rotations. They are a JOY to work with.

 

[GeddyLee]

Yes, they return for their final act in MS3-4. The most skilled at these activities will covertly round on other students patients and "steal" your work in order to appear "enthusiastic". They will then feel like they've really earned their honors grades and appointment to AOA. This is an excellent reason to avoid competitive residencies to which these people typically match.

These people should be rounded up and given their own hospitals to work in. It will be the happiest place on earth. Either that or they should be stabbed in the face.

 

[doc05]

These people are a total pain in the ass and you should just avoid them. I am lucky enough to say that, halfway through 3rd year, I have yet to rotate with one of these creeps...

 

[Amy]

In my experience, THOSE people really don't do well in the clinical years, because academics is where they shine. When forced to actually work with PEOPLE, they freak out, can't figure out what they're supposed to be doing, and don't make a great impression on the people they work with. Of course I don't like to see anyone do poorly, but I must admit there's a part of me that enjoys the switcheroo that occurs with the chaos that is third year. 😛

 

[nuclearrabbit77]

These people should be rounded up and given their own hospitals to work in. It will be the happiest place on earth. Either that or they should be stabbed in the face. [/B][/QUOTE]


thats too funny 😀

 

[DW]

Yeah, in my short time in med school i've realized both here and retrospectively there are different levels of gunning:

What you've described is the "overt" gunner, fully out of the closet and proud of it. Sits near the front of the class, and regardless of how early you get up, they WILL somehow beat you to the lecture hall. Asks lots of inane questions that are applicable to absolutely nothing in order to sound smart, overly enthusiastic and intense even through the most boring topics. Are sometimes genuinely insulted when you rip on dud lecturers. Carries as many unnecessary books as possible on their person at all times (sure sign: a first year proudly trumpeting their copy of Harrison's).

There's also the "closet" gunner, the student who plays the cool guy act, claims they never study, yaps on and on about they go out and get wasted all the time and live like rockstars, but somehow know everything during review sessions and such and are aceing all the material. I personally find more annoying than the overt gunner, especially around test time. Much more prevalent in college, but still around in med school.

The "sniper". Sits in far reaches of classroom. Rarely if ever speaks to anyone or acknowledges people in general, and is ONLY seen in the edcenter during lectures, labs, and tests. Spends rest of days in complete seclusion in the library or their room. Relatively harmless for now........

feel free to add more 😛

 

[nuclearrabbit77]

i really like your definitions. and i agree with you, the "closet gunners" tend to be really annoying, because they harp on how they never study and how they got drunk the night before. usually the "out of the closet gunners" tend to be casually destroyed by their peers as being loser-like, but at least they are honest about it and aren't pretending to be something they aren't. but quite frankly, the people who annoy me the most are the people who ask questions. i have never heard a question that was so relevant that it justified interupting the lecture. you can ask questions after the lecture, via email, or at their office....

 

[missMD]

I don't mind people asking a question every now and then. Sometimes the lecturer really is confusing everybody and one brave person asks him/her to clarify. The annoying ones are those that ask question after question after question. You start to feel like the your intruding on someone's private tutoring session🙄

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by nuclearrabbit77
but quite frankly, the people who annoy me the most are the people who ask questions. i have never heard a question that was so relevant that it justified interupting the lecture. you can ask questions after the lecture, via email, or at their office....

Argh, this is out of control. Some of my classmates have gotten a clue, but a few still question on ... To add to the difficulty, our lecturers keep making comments about how great our questions are and what a wonderful class we are for asking so many (*$&%^ questions ...

Two kinds of questions I hate: The ones that are completely irrelevant except to show that you're smart enough to ask the questions (I want to hand out buttons that say "I'm a smart M*F*"--this way, they wouldn't have to ask questions--they could just wear the button, and everyone would know). Then there are the questions (frequently arising in small-group) that indicate whoever asked the question hadn't bothered to do any reading ...

😛

 

[Horseradish99]

For the annoying ones who ask lots of question during lecture, turn it into Gunner Bingo!

You make a scorecard with all of the gunners' pictures on it in a Bingo square (include a free space!). You usually should have a website with everyone's mugshuts so use that! Pass out different scorecards to your friends and put a chip on each person's face who asks a question during the lecture.

If you are lucky enough to get a bingo, in order to convey your win to the rest of your friends, you now have to raise your hand and ask a question, being sure to loudly include the word "BINGO" in your question.

example question... "So when two amino acids come together, you get a peptide bond, and BINGO!! you lose a water molecule?"

You can get more and more creative with your BINGOing... typically it's good to have at least 10 or so gunners to include on the scorecard (you can use their pictures a few times on each card).

🙂 Happy Bingoing!

 

[dan0909]

Originally posted by Horseradish99
For the annoying ones who ask lots of question during lecture, turn it into Gunner Bingo!

You make a scorecard with all of the gunners' pictures on it in a Bingo square (include a free space!). You usually should have a website with everyone's mugshuts so use that! Pass out different scorecards to your friends and put a chip on each person's face who asks a question during the lecture.

If you are lucky enough to get a bingo, in order to convey your win to the rest of your friends, you now have to raise your hand and ask a question, being sure to loudly include the word "BINGO" in your question.

example question... "So when two amino acids come together, you get a peptide bond, and BINGO!! you lose a water molecule?"

You can get more and more creative with your BINGOing... typically it's good to have at least 10 or so gunners to include on the scorecard (you can use their pictures a few times on each card).

🙂 Happy Bingoing!

thats fantastic mann...just great...

has this relaly ever been done??

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by Horseradish99
For the annoying ones who ask lots of question during lecture, turn it into Gunner Bingo!

You make a scorecard with all of the gunners' pictures on it in a Bingo square (include a free space!). You usually should have a website with everyone's mugshuts so use that! Pass out different scorecards to your friends and put a chip on each person's face who asks a question during the lecture.

If you are lucky enough to get a bingo, in order to convey your win to the rest of your friends, you now have to raise your hand and ask a question, being sure to loudly include the word "BINGO" in your question.

example question... "So when two amino acids come together, you get a peptide bond, and BINGO!! you lose a water molecule?"

You can get more and more creative with your BINGOing... typically it's good to have at least 10 or so gunners to include on the scorecard (you can use their pictures a few times on each card).

🙂 Happy Bingoing!

•Best. Idea. Ever.•

 

[Bernd]

There's this one guy in my class who adds an "if you will" to every question to make them sound more intellectual.

"So the gag-pol genes, if you will, are not unique to HIV, but are in fact observed in many other retroviruses, correct?"

Notice the redundancy of the question, a hallmark sign of a question with no other purpose but to mark his territory... kind of like a dog peeing on a fire hydrant. He also has a nasty habit of arguing with the lecturer in front of the whole class if they disagree with the premise of his question. And meeting one of DW's criteria, he carries his books in this massive rollaboard suitcase.

He's definately going on the BINGO board along with Barbie and Ken in the front row!

 

[GeddyLee]

These people are why they invented towers and high powered rifles.

 

[DrBodacious]

Originally posted by Bernd
Notice the redundancy of the question, a hallmark sign of a question with no other purpose but to mark his territory...

"hallmark sign" is redundant! 😛

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Originally posted by Horseradish99
For the annoying ones who ask lots of question during lecture, turn it into Gunner Bingo!

You make a scorecard with all of the gunners' pictures on it in a Bingo square (include a free space!). You usually should have a website with everyone's mugshuts so use that! Pass out different scorecards to your friends and put a chip on each person's face who asks a question during the lecture.

If you are lucky enough to get a bingo, in order to convey your win to the rest of your friends, you now have to raise your hand and ask a question, being sure to loudly include the word "BINGO" in your question.

example question... "So when two amino acids come together, you get a peptide bond, and BINGO!! you lose a water molecule?"

You can get more and more creative with your BINGOing... typically it's good to have at least 10 or so gunners to include on the scorecard (you can use their pictures a few times on each card).

🙂 Happy Bingoing!

This very game is described in the back of our student manual.

 

[johncunningham]

True story.

One of my classmated wore a stethoscope to our white coat ceremony. Seriously, it was on about the third day of class, MS1, and this guy has a stethoscope around his neck.

I have two things to say to him and the rest of his kind.

1 save a life
2 make a difference

 

[care bear]

Originally posted by Bernd
He also has a nasty habit of arguing with the lecturer in front of the whole class if they disagree with the premise of his question.

yeah i don't get this. there is a guy in my class who is a very nice guy, but he will repeatedly do this. it is just such a bad habit!i hope he figures it out by third year, i can imagine in the hospital
they won't take very kindly to it.

 

[Galaxian]

These kinds of people just need to be lined up and shot in the face.... You know what really sucks is the shameless ass kisser. The kind that it is just revolting to watch every day on rounds as he/she butters up the attending's already inflated ego and sidles up to the chief resident. 😡 The kind that believes that this lowly and cheap method is the way to "play the game." Call me old fashioned, but I still believe in working hard and letting your work speak for itself, and being a team player, both when it comes to your ward team, and with your classmates (i.e. cover each other's asses). Using my approach, I got burned several times during third year--there's just something about that golden apple called "honors" that turns people into coked out ******. And I guess that's the kind of behavior that medicine rewards, because these are the people getting the honors and the fine evaluations. Sickening...

 

[huktonfonix]

Hey Galaxian, to be honest if I had the chance I'f screw you over too. Nah, just kidding. Congrats on the interview today. Won't mention the place, but you'd better brush up on that accent. I've constantly had to fight the urge to beat these people over the head with a full foley bag. Not to be bitter, but I am a bit pissed these people got honors and other more deserving people didn't. To their credit they still had to honor the exam, but the clinical ass kissing almost made me puke out my pancreas. Also kudos for the coked out ho remark😀 Oh yeah, SOCOM?

 

[mzamir_01]

i have one that sits next to me every day, she was with me in high school and that gives her an excuse to follow me around every where 🙁

i hate them too, their attitude is what gets me.

there is another category for gunners... the ones that still ask a lot of questions but most of them end up being wrong... instead of doing us a favour and shutting-up they keep the questions coming... so i call them the "Shame-less Gunners".

 

[Hayduke]

So what do you call the guy who is gunning without a clip. No bullets. Not even a BB.
We have this pathetic fella who ran for SGA prez. (and lost) But continues to function as an elected somebody. Was fired from the interview committee after adopting a colloquial accent and wearing false teeth while speaking with prospective students. Interrupts our Anatomy lectures to give incorrect corrections. Makes daily redundant announcements at the front of class. Schedules "study-sessions" weekly for those that are falling in the cracks...then fills 90 minutes with war-stories of his time as a personal trainer.
The rest of his peer time is spent being an ill-mannered, obnoxious prick. Yet, you see him on campus walking arm-in-arm with the dean.
Will he be the next surgeon general?
The chief resident during some poor person's third year?
or
Will he be the first chief-of-staff at a major hospital to pose with a soldering iron sticking out of his maxillary sinus?

 

[dudelove]

Damn you guys are funny. I am not in medical school but I remember these same types when I was in dental school. Did you guys ever have the individual who would ***** themselves in order to get a better grade? There was this person who wanted to get into an orthodontics specialty program and she slept with a couple of the professors and was actually caught doing the bangy bang with an instructor in my school that we called "bozo the clown" because his red hair on the sides and bald head made him look like the genuine article. She ended up getting into ortho.

 

[JM.]

Man - I can't cut on any classmates - they all know who I am.

 

[DOtobe]

Originally posted by Hayduke
Was fired from the interview committee after adopting a colloquial accent and wearing false teeth while speaking with prospective students.

That is absolutely hysterical

What would possess someone to do that?

 

[kaos]

Originally posted by Hayduke
Was fired from the interview committee after adopting a colloquial accent and wearing false teeth while speaking with prospective students.

What a sad, sad person.

 

[Neuronix]

As my med school found out, if you interview on Halloween all bets are off. No, just kidding, someone slashed a couple tires on my car and I couldn't get a costume. Grumble...

 

[carrigallen]

Darn...apparently I went to the kind of run-down school that doesn't attract many ambitious people... granted, there are people who worry about their grades but mostly this is to pass/fail, not to honors/pass.

I honestly haven't met anyone in our class with such a degree of misplaced drive/monomania. I'm guessing with a school like Duke, it mostly attracts students of a higher caliber, but also attracts a few of the "fringe element" too. I'll concede our class is not exactly composed entirely of mature gentlemen and ladies, but no one asks self-indulgent questions "Now hpm-pol, if you will,...". (knock on wood 😱)

 

[Naphtali]

I AM THE ANTI-GUNNER.

There are a few people in my class that do this sort of stuff. It doesn't bother me, for I am a child of the light; I walk the middle path, free of the illusion of medical school, my sights firmly on my future career. I had to kiss so much ass as an undergrad my lips are still chapped. Never again.

 

[Hendooneh]

we had gunner bingo running through first and second year at my school. We also have the anti-gunner award given out for third and fourth years.

 

[cbpremed]

This thread is hilarious and unfortunately truthful. We have 2 gunners that are 'out' so to speak. One keeps reminding people how he was an EMT and what he knows from the 'field'. He then proceeds to ask questions that no one else knows about, and tries to make himself look good. In his defense, he has toned down lately, which is much appreciated. Not looking forward to 3rd year.

 

[Samoa]

Originally posted by cbpremed
This thread is hilarious and unfortunately truthful. We have 2 gunners that are 'out' so to speak. One keeps reminding people how he was an EMT and what he knows from the 'field'. He then proceeds to ask questions that no one else knows about, and tries to make himself look good. In his defense, he has toned down lately, which is much appreciated. Not looking forward to 3rd year.

Maybe he's just interested and curious.

Or maybe not. I'm not there, I don't know. I'm totally the opposite--I'm actively trying to LOWER everyone's expectations for my 3rd year performance. But sometimes I can't help it--I HAVE to ask the question, or give the answer, because it drives me nuts to watch my classmates try and figure it out. My fear, though, is that my residents and attendings will throw things at me that I'm not ready to handle, simply because I appear to know so much already. There's a lot I don't know, and the last thing I want to do is pretend otherwise.

 

[BadVB750]

One gunner in class today was taking notes on our Micro lab safety introduction. I almost vomited

 

[DrMom]

Originally posted by BadVB750
One gunner in class today was taking notes on our Micro lab safety introduction. I almost vomited

priceless!

 

[Samoa]

That's pretty bad.