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[apoptosis09]

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Show of hands if I flip village today who is going for genny next?

 

[samac]

I really do think apop should be first discussed tomorrow. If not for the sub I think there would have been 3 viable wagons today. QQ was just as much of a black box as Clem, plus a flimsy derp clear. If the game is STILL not over after Clem and apop, sort out your favorite deepwolf theories.

And wowee, I really hope Clem is the wolf, cuz otherwise unless it’s KC, I have really actively harmed the village this game =\

Just pulling this to the top

 

[samac]

Show of hands if I flip village today who is going for genny next?

If you flip village I’m just hoping for the sweet release of death
It’s okay I’m killable now. My plot armor is gone.

 

[apoptosis09]

Guys what if it's samac

 

[samac]

Okay now that THAT'S out of the way, if the POE flips village:

Apop is always an option, regardless of being a sub or not.

I highly doubt dubz is wolf. She'd be WAY more present and way more engaged if she was. She's straight chillin' which is giving village vibes.

Beware of beans.

I doubt it's genny based on her vibes today.

KCalb gives cinnamon roll vibes but could be murderous. Lower on my list.

I don't think even a "trying something new" fruit would bus like that.

“Beware of beans” lmao

 

[samac]

Guys what if it's samac

I swear to god I’m going to throw things at people

 

[genny]

If you flip village I’m just hoping for the sweet release of death
It’s okay I’m killable now. My plot armor is gone.

you and KC would go to endgame. fruit or beans die tonight, then the other the next night. leaving one of dubz or me to complete F3, depending on who the non-apop wolf would be. except it's apop, so we don't have to go there.

 

[samac]

you and KC would go to endgame. fruit or beans die tonight, then the other the next night. leaving one of dubz or me to complete F3, depending on who the non-apop wolf would be. except it's apop, so we don't have to go there.

I angered it because that thought makes my butthole clench.
But yes.
It’s apop.
It’s gotta be apop.

 

[apoptosis09]

Man I wish I was a wolf. This would be prime wolf bragging time. Alas

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 5 Yeet Tally
kcal () -
apop (3) - samac 22, fruit 7, genny 5

3/7
yeet close in ~23 hours

 

[samac]

Town locked are dubz fruit beans rae, you guys figure out the fifth

Clems last

 

[apoptosis09]

@fruitsalad can you break down kcalb for me?
I wasnt really seeing it but if I'm wrong about genny I dont want my legacy to be used to lose the game lolz

 

[fruitsalad]

@fruitsalad can you break down kcalb for me?
I wasnt really seeing it but if I'm wrong about genny I dont want my legacy to be used to lose the game lolz

kcalbs voted for kitz in direct response to kitz getting pressure from moons and beans. that looks like an ideal bussing spot to me.

 

[WildZoo]

Zenge had walked back his PR claim and I was sorting jailkeeper. I think Apop already knew from the wolfie chat.

Wouldn't she have had the same info just from...reading his flip?

 

[WildZoo]

Wait was Zenge not dead yet when apop subbed in

 

[samac]

Wouldn't she have had the same info just from...reading his flip?

Wait was Zenge not dead yet when apop subbed in

No he was, but it’s the way she went she went about it. She wasn’t pointing to the flip she was pointing to his pr reveal

 

[WildZoo]

No yeah he had already died before she joined the thread

 

[genny]

No yeah he had already died before she joined the thread

she subbed in at night and killed him

 

[WildZoo]

I just spent like an hour spinning so my brain can't process this right now

 

[apoptosis09]

Wouldn't she have had the same info just from...reading his flip?

Reading is villains!
Apparently

 

[samac]

I just spent like an hour spinning so my brain can't process this right now

It wasn’t “oh sad jailkeeper died” it was shew glad zenge is dead so I don’t have to get paranoid about the outted pr

And that don’t sit right with me on review

 

[apoptosis09]

It wasn’t “oh sad jailkeeper died” it was shew glad zenge is dead so I don’t have to get paranoid about the outted pr

And that don’t sit right with me on review

Maybe I'm subconsciously jealous of wolves who manage to kill zenge hmmyes

 

[apoptosis09]

Sorry guys I'm clowning too much I'll try to do some iso's later and leave you all something useful 😅

 

[samac]

Sorry guys I'm clowning too much I'll try to do some iso's later and leave you all something useful 😅

If you are village I’d really like your review and takes on folks cause we’re stale bread

 

[WildZoo]

Tbh I think the latter could be very likely for the purpose of a Champs game, to make sure we're up against players we can't meta read for wolfiness. plus SDN has a certain game culture that makes wolf's easier to find imo

Not too say that makes our last wolf more likely a local, just that 3:1 visitors may not be crazy.

You know you subbed in for a visitor, right?

Anyway it's RNG. Sometimes in our own regular games we fiddle with things a little here and there but never in champs practice and I don't think AM ever reruns the RNG at all.

 

[WildZoo]

It wasn’t “oh sad jailkeeper died” it was shew glad zenge is dead so I don’t have to get paranoid about the outted pr

And that don’t sit right with me on review

Okay okay I see I see

 

[WildZoo]

So now I have to ask myself if I effort to make sure or just hope we're not wrong

 

[WildZoo]

I mean usually when I effort i come to wrong conclusions anyway

 

[WildZoo]

Guys what if it's samac

Pop pls

 

[apoptosis09]

Ok, knowing full well that the more effort I put in the more likely i am to get yeeted, genny iso incoming:

 

[WildZoo]

We have 6 villagers, 1 wolf
Me, samac, beans, fruit locked

So apop, genny, kcalb remaining as POE

Yeet apop, if village ---> 5:1
Night kill ---> 4:1
Yeet kcalb, if village ---> 3:1
Night kill ---> 2:1
Yeet genny

Okay so we're still fine, no effort needed unless the lock is wrong and if the lock is wrong then damn, that's some excellent wolfing by whomstever and I will bow down

 

[genny]

Ok, knowing full well that the more effort I put in the more likely i am to get yeeted, genny iso incoming:

just quote toby, he already did that.

 

[apoptosis09]

Town leaning spurs, santy, wasp, kitz.

I’d like to see more from fruit because I’m thinking of voting there

Kitz early town read that sustains until she flips

Yeah I’m ok with that. Feels fresh and green.

Supporting wasp tr

clem dubz wasp SAR. and then rae and QQ

After the kitz flip, moves onto sussing Wasp.

My thinking is that after losing a wolf d1, the tactic switched to heavy distancing/ bussing, knowing that someone else in the pack was going soon. this is reflected in the other wolves too

Yeah there’s so much resistance that I’m leading rn.

Disagree. You’re back at the people you’d flip if you weren’t trying to flip me.

Village: santy, fruit, beans
Wolf: wasp, zenge, Clem

Another push for wasp

I’m pretty sure I’m consensus POE, no one is stepping up to defend me.

Pointing this out.

you said earlier that i don't play conventionally, or react in an expected manner, and now you're doubling down on your wolf read of me because... i'm not taking the expected tactic of revoking your reading card? yes, makes sense.

Reacting to Santy

maybe just regular wolfing

And here's the push for Toby.
This is where I'm slipping bc the distance from wasp could've carried and theres not much reason to push for the next wolf too, unless toby was the engine behind the bussing and pushed for it

i kind of want to vote QQ.

Bets the first push towards me

i already voted toby once, and unvoted to avoid hammer

Just another mention of toby


Tl;dr genny is deeper than I thought and I might be wrong actually

 

[apoptosis09]

just quote toby, he already did that.

That unfortunately does support my theory that toby spearheaded the deepwolf campaign

 

[WildZoo]

I was working on this when Clem hammered, original commentary is below but now that Clem flipped village there really was no reason for Toby to introduce another wagon at that stage (it was all villagers) so maybe the turnaround on kcal really was just an effort to remove his scum read on her so he wouldn't feel inclined to vote there or be questioned for not doing so. Based on his meta it doesn't sound like he's a super ultra mega busser so that seems kinda reasonable.

On second read of Kcalb I actually think they are just pure towny, the post that pinged me before was below,

I thought it was giving over explanation and panic and struggling to commit to an opinion, which it is, and it does ping me, but only when taken out of context. When looking at their posts altogether they seem to be quite consistently trying to solve and showcasing true townie paranoia. Their opinions and tone is quite sporadic that I don't see coming from a wolf, particularly as they said this is their first english mafia game, they might choose to be more reserved. But they're jumping in and calling out names which is grabbing attention that I don't see a wolf wanting to have

I think this is the post Spurs was talking about?

Feels sloppy if it was intended as a "sus your packmate and then come around to a village read on them" kind of thing since they'd barely interacted.

Maybe was intended to pocket kcal? Hmmm. or just a reason to get off that train of thought since there wasn't really anyone else too sus of kcal. His next move was to make a post about me and vote there. Kind of interesting given Clem was leading at the time.

 

[samac]

Kitz early town read that sustains until she flips

Supporting wasp tr

After the kitz flip, moves onto sussing Wasp.

My thinking is that after losing a wolf d1, the tactic switched to heavy distancing/ bussing, knowing that someone else in the pack was going soon. this is reflected in the other wolves too




Another push for wasp

Pointing this out.

Reacting to Santy

And here's the push for Toby.
This is where I'm slipping bc the distance from wasp could've carried and theres not much reason to push for the next wolf too, unless toby was the engine behind the bussing and pushed for it

Bets the first push towards me

Just another mention of toby


Tl;dr genny is deeper than I thought and I might be wrong actually

Did you already have this started before the genny iso post

 

[genny]

Bets the first push towards me

what do you mean by this. i'm pushing another wolf?

 

[apoptosis09]

Did you already have this started before the genny iso post

Yes I pulled quotes before the first post, then added my commentary. Bc people are impatient 😅

 

[WildZoo]

Kitz early town read that sustains until she flips

Supporting wasp tr

After the kitz flip, moves onto sussing Wasp.

My thinking is that after losing a wolf d1, the tactic switched to heavy distancing/ bussing, knowing that someone else in the pack was going soon. this is reflected in the other wolves too




Another push for wasp

Pointing this out.

Reacting to Santy

And here's the push for Toby.
This is where I'm slipping bc the distance from wasp could've carried and theres not much reason to push for the next wolf too, unless toby was the engine behind the bussing and pushed for it

Bets the first push towards me

Just another mention of toby


Tl;dr genny is deeper than I thought and I might be wrong actually

I think this fully supports v!genny tbh

 

[apoptosis09]

what do you mean by this. i'm pushing another wolf?

No that was the first post you mentioned qq/me as sus. Just marked it for my thought progression/following your reads

 

[WildZoo]

Attempting to spin in and rotate a giant wheel around is a lot of work so I need to eat something but then I think I'm gonna look at some more kcal interactions with the pack

 

[genny]

No that was the first post you mentioned qq/me as sus. Just marked it for my thought progression/following your reads

ok, because the wording sounds like a mental slip. you talk about a push on wasp, a push on toby, and a push on you. where's my push on clem?

 

[samac]

ok, because the wording sounds like a mental slip. you talk about a push on wasp, a push on toby, and a push on you. where's my push on clem?

Ya know that’s actually a fair point

 

[apoptosis09]

ok, because the wording sounds like a mental slip. you talk about a push on wasp, a push on toby, and a push on you. where's my push on clem?

Not relevant to me

 

[genny]

Attempting to spin in and rotate a giant wheel around is a lot of work so I need to eat something but then I think I'm gonna look at some more kcal interactions with the pack

my brain went to hamster wheels first, and then wondering if they make them big enough for capybaras, and then i realized you're the hamster

 

[apoptosis09]

Not relevant to me

(Eta bc that sounded blunt; everyone was sussing clem so it didnt matter. I was tracking your interactions with known wolves and me (known town and still alive))

 

[genny]

(Eta bc that sounded blunt; everyone was sussing clem so it didnt matter. I was tracking your interactions with known wolves and me (known town and still alive))

ftfy

 

[apoptosis09]

I'm pulling kcalb quotes and gotta say if they're deepwolfing they're finding dinos in the center of the earth rn

 

[WildZoo]

I'm pulling kcalb quotes and gotta say if they're deepwolfing they're finding dinos in the center of the earth rn

You might be the only person left who wouldn't have to be deeper than the deepest of deep space to be a wolf tbh

 

[WildZoo]

my brain went to hamster wheels first, and then wondering if they make them big enough for capybaras, and then i realized you're the hamster

I am the hamster!!

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