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Who do we think will cap first? me or spurs?
 
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samac said:
I don’t know if beans would deepwolf. I don’t know enough about her wolf game. She was an early vote on kitz but did she push wasp or Toby? I don’t remember her doing so

Once again though, intellectual exercise. I don’t think it’s beans or Dubz
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I don't believe beans would deepwolf, and I really don't believe they would say this on D1 casting sus on TWO packmates:
beans2020 said:
Kitz and wasp are my biggest scumleans right now. But as aforementioned I'm not voting wasp today.
My neutral pool is SAR, clem, santy, squee, dubz, and genny.

Out of all those I'd prefer a kitz yeet
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If I were to entertain a deepwolf (and again, I'm not at that point.. I don't think), I think I would favor @Kcalb . I don't want to believe it's KC kind of for the same reason that they don't believe it could be me, but I do feel like we have largely mind-melded this game in a way that could be pocket-y (and this was something that pinged me on day 1). They've maintained a lot of cred on the back of being first to vote kitz on D1, and

On D1, KC never put down a hard read on Wasp. Their interactions were fluff and "who is Wasp and why is Wasp" ; they certainly did not help Wasp on D2 but it also never really felt like Wasp was going to be the vote that day. Wasp barely mentioned KC, calling them scum on D1 (in the post that only otherwise mentioned kitz) and then "maybe town" on D2 (after KC already got points for the kitz vote)

Toby and KC both hard read each other as town on D1 and D2.
 
GoSpursGo said:
I don't believe beans would deepwolf, and I really don't believe they would say this on D1 casting sus on TWO packmates:


If I were to entertain a deepwolf (and again, I'm not at that point.. I don't think), I think I would favor @Kcalb . I don't want to believe it's KC kind of for the same reason that they don't believe it could be me, but I do feel like we have largely mind-melded this game in a way that could be pocket-y (and this was something that pinged me on day 1). They've maintained a lot of cred on the back of being first to vote kitz on D1, and

On D1, KC never put down a hard read on Wasp. Their interactions were fluff and "who is Wasp and why is Wasp" ; they certainly did not help Wasp on D2 but it also never really felt like Wasp was going to be the vote that day. Wasp barely mentioned KC, calling them scum on D1 (in the post that only otherwise mentioned kitz) and then "maybe town" on D2 (after KC already got points for the kitz vote)

Toby and KC both hard read each other as town on D1 and D2.
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Oh, and in the opposite direction, kitz called KC pure
 
Again... I think we can probably just work through the POE and start asking why people in the blocc are still alive as we approach Volo, but if the assignment was to decide who could be the deepwolf, that's my answer.
 
GoSpursGo said:
I don't believe beans would deepwolf, and I really don't believe they would say this on D1 casting sus on TWO packmates:


If I were to entertain a deepwolf (and again, I'm not at that point.. I don't think), I think I would favor @Kcalb . I don't want to believe it's KC kind of for the same reason that they don't believe it could be me, but I do feel like we have largely mind-melded this game in a way that could be pocket-y (and this was something that pinged me on day 1). They've maintained a lot of cred on the back of being first to vote kitz on D1, and

On D1, KC never put down a hard read on Wasp. Their interactions were fluff and "who is Wasp and why is Wasp" ; they certainly did not help Wasp on D2 but it also never really felt like Wasp was going to be the vote that day. Wasp barely mentioned KC, calling them scum on D1 (in the post that only otherwise mentioned kitz) and then "maybe town" on D2 (after KC already got points for the kitz vote)

Toby and KC both hard read each other as town on D1 and D2.
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I don't think I hard read toby ever? Idk might be tripping but he was never part of my blocc
 
GoSpursGo said:
Again... I think we can probably just work through the POE and start asking why people in the blocc are still alive as we approach Volo, but if the assignment was to decide who could be the deepwolf, that's my answer.
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I have to once again agree with this, mostly cuz we are in a extremely favorable position of 1 v 9
 
GoSpursGo said:
If I were to entertain a deepwolf (and again, I'm not at that point.. I don't think), I think I would favor @Kcalb . I don't want to believe it's KC kind of for the same reason that they don't believe it could be me, but I do feel like we have largely mind-melded this game in a way that could be pocket-y (and this was something that pinged me on day 1). They've maintained a lot of cred on the back of being first to vote kitz on D1, and

On D1, KC never put down a hard read on Wasp. Their interactions were fluff and "who is Wasp and why is Wasp" ; they certainly did not help Wasp on D2 but it also never really felt like Wasp was going to be the vote that day. Wasp barely mentioned KC, calling them scum on D1 (in the post that only otherwise mentioned kitz) and then "maybe town" on D2 (after KC already got points for the kitz vote)

Toby and KC both hard read each other as town on D1 and D2.
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I like this analysis. I think i agree that if we get to the point of looking for deepwolves, KC would be a good starting point. I think I would look again at genny before KC though and KC before samac, fruit, or dubz.
 
I kinda have a couple lf takes of who could be deepwolfing but I don't feel we should discuss it that much today to avoid affecting the health of the game. And with this I mean mere gut feelings or sort of argumented, wild theories

If anyone has a clear answer and wants to do a deepdive on someone of the townblocc to find receipts that's okay
 
But for now I think we stay the course on clem/spurs/apop and worry about genny and KC if all three of them end up village flips
 
beans2020 said:
I like this analysis. I think i agree that if we get to the point of looking for deepwolves, KC would be a good starting point. I think I would look again at genny before KC though and KC before samac, fruit, or dubz.
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I agree Im not the highest townblocc out thefe and wouldnt be against a yeeting if that helps to clear the way
 
Kcalb said:
I don't think I hard read toby ever? Idk might be tripping but he was never part of my blocc
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Huh, maybe I'm wrong and it was one-sided. You read him neutral on D1, and then you honestly don't say much about him directly until yesterday when his wagon is assembling. He had a kind of unearned progression from calling you sus to pure.
toberto said:
I'll probably just take the consensus 3-5 top sus and dig deeper and see who I prefer when I have time

Kcalb was my initial ping so I'll include them too
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toberto said:
On second read of Kcalb I actually think they are just pure towny, the post that pinged me before was below,

I thought it was giving over explanation and panic and struggling to commit to an opinion, which it is, and it does ping me, but only when taken out of context. When looking at their posts altogether they seem to be quite consistently trying to solve and showcasing true townie paranoia. Their opinions and tone is quite sporadic that I don't see coming from a wolf, particularly as they said this is their first english mafia game, they might choose to be more reserved. But they're jumping in and calling out names which is grabbing attention that I don't see a wolf wanting to have
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Kcalb said:
I kinda have a couple lf takes of who could be deepwolfing but I don't feel we should discuss it that much today to avoid affecting the health of the game. And with this I mean mere gut feelings or sort of argumented, wild theories

If anyone has a clear answer and wants to do a deepdive on someone of the townblocc to find receipts that's okay
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I generally agree, however, as much as I'd love to get to the endgame...

I'm not dumb.

If it isn't just Clem or apop, then while I'll keep fighting since I know I'm clear, there is a very good chance my game ends in a misyeet or on the business end of rae's vig. And while that's a bummer, I can at least try to plant some seeds that can allow the village to win at the end. For all I know this is my last day, and so I wanted to get this thought out in the open so people can interact with me and let me know if I'm missing some crucial point.
 
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Zenge dying as jk is why I wanted them to take the vig claim (and why real vig not claiming was better)--if they do mafia have to either call the bluff or risk losing a kill, whereas with vig out they're free to kill zenge and/or jk hunt (in this case do both)
 
Also JK is way more important than vig in this setup, particularly at this stage of the game, that's why I didn't care about prioritizing vig lol
 
I guess I should probably actually try a little, but I'm tired and have an incredibly full day tomorrow (morning doc appointment for the kiddo (nothing bad, just routine!), then his speech therapy which includes two hours of driving, then maybe a movie with my wife, and I have pathfinder prep and a shower to fit in there somewhere too)

And we only have one mafia left so I'm kinda feeling like maybe I just be lazy and let it happen lol and if we end up losing its everyone else's fault
 
My poe is probably something like apop/spurs but I'd recheck zenge's reads and (who the **** died n1? I can't even remember any more), just in case

I don't really remember why I was TRing kcalb either but
 
I don't actually have a tr on samac but iirc zenge did so we defer to zaddy
 
5 town clears is a lock and that feels like a lot but I think I can get close probably
 
Fruits and beans are easy

Kinda want to clear queef for the derp clear
 
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I dunno this doesn’t feel like the same Clem as when I subbed in for genny and he was considered on the chopping block
 
Animal Midwife said:
Day 4 Yeet Tally
Clem (3) - Spurs 28, fruit 15, beans 8
apop () -
Spurs (1) - apop 22

4/10
yeet close in ~22 hours
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Yeet Dubz

I’m lazy and want my post count without getting closer to hammer
 
Clem J said:
5 town clears is a lock and that feels like a lot but I think I can get close probably
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As long as everyone agrees rae/fruit/samac/beans is town, the game is a lock. Because every other individual town person can fill themselves in as the 5th person.
 
GoSpursGo said:
As long as everyone agrees rae/fruit/samac/beans is town, the game is a lock. Because every other individual town person can fill themselves in as the 5th person.
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We gotta have a 5 consensus no? That no matter what those 5 are clear. Cause otherwise people fight for the 5th spotb
 
GoSpursGo said:
Yeah nvm I'm wrong lol
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Just to do the exercise, let's just assume dubZ from outside that group makes it to the end and KC is the wolf. In that scenario

9/1, misyeet (let's say Clem, hypothetically)/NK (rae)/mis-vig (me)-->
6/1, misyeet (apop)/NK (fruit)-->
4/1, misyeet (genny)/NK (samac)-->2/1, with v!dubZ, v!beans, and w!KC

If beans doesn't have dubZ in their blocc, then beans could join KC to vote them out. Replace dubZ with any of genny/apop/Clem/me, and beans could still join KC to yeet the last villager.
 
GoSpursGo said:
Just to do the exercise, let's just assume dubZ from outside that group makes it to the end and KC is the wolf. In that scenario

9/1, misyeet (let's say Clem, hypothetically)/NK (rae)/mis-vig (me)-->
6/1, misyeet (apop)/NK (fruit)-->
4/1, misyeet (genny)/NK (samac)-->2/1, with v!dubZ, v!beans, and w!KC

If beans doesn't have dubZ in their blocc, then beans could join KC to vote them out. Replace dubZ with any of genny/apop/Clem/me, and beans could still join KC to yeet the last villager.
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And you can also play around with the other roles. Samac or fruit could play the role of beans, and any of Clem/genny/apop could play the role of the wolf.
 
GoSpursGo said:
And you can also play around with the other roles. Samac or fruit could play the role of beans, and any of Clem/genny/apop could play the role of the wolf.
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Clem/genny/apop/dubZ. Again, if you don’t already have dubZ in your blocc.

If dubZ is in blocc then the game is a lock.
 
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GoSpursGo said:
Clem/genny/apop/dubZ. Again, if you don’t already have dubZ in your blocc.

If dubZ is in blocc then the game is a lock.
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only way i consider dubz is if im still alive in an F3 with her cause she'd think its funny. But I don't see that in the future lol
 
samac said:
only way i consider dubz is if im still alive in an F3 with her cause she'd think its funny. But I don't see that in the future lol
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Well that's sort of the point of this exercise--if you'd consider her in F3, then the game isn't a lock.

But I agree, I hope it doesn't come to that.
 
samac said:
Nah nah I want to know why you don’t have a town read on me
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Weather Boy Wouldnt You Like To Know GIF
 
samac said:
I dunno this doesn’t feel like the same Clem as when I subbed in for genny and he was considered on the chopping block
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That Clem was motivated
 
GoSpursGo said:
As long as everyone agrees rae/fruit/samac/beans is town, the game is a lock. Because every other individual town person can fill themselves in as the 5th person.
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That's not actually how it works tho
 
Clem J said:
My poe is probably something like apop/spurs but I'd recheck zenge's reads and (who the **** died n1? I can't even remember any more), just in case

I don't really remember why I was TRing kcalb either but
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So my poe is probably genny/spurs lol
 
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