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Now go filibuster this ridiculous health care bill.
 
lol it's funny, i was very pro-democrat when i was a dental student, but now that i'm a practicing dentist and see how much my income is going to suffer because of these democratic policies, i'm beginning to move to the republican side (not philosphically, but selfishly). i guess its true, you grow up a democrat and die a republican
 
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lol it's funny, i was very pro-democrat when i was a dental student, but now that i'm a practicing dentist and see how much my income is going to suffer because of these democratic policies, i'm beginning to move to the republican side (not philosphically, but selfishly). i guess its true, you grow up a democrat and die a republican


There's a huge percentage of practicing dentists out there who were formerly democrats, but now (atleast fiscally) are republicans. And then the great mental debate ensure about which side of your brain to listen to when you goto vote, the side that thinks about your wallet or the side that thinks about social issues. As I've said before in other thread, how I personally deal with that mental debate, is I vote republican(most of the time) and then use that extra $$ that hopefully ends up in my wallet to donate a few extra $$'s to a few more charitable organizations 😀😉😀
 
The health care bill is not dead yet. The dems can try to ram it through before swearing in Sen. Brown.
But lets hope not.
 
You're welcome everyone😀. It's not over yet because these hardcore leftists are still planning to shove it down our throat.

My donations to Sen. Lieberman campaign 4 years ago and Sen. Brown campaign last week were well spent; I promise to spend thousand $$$ more to beat back this obamanation. If this deeeeepest blue state of MA is p!ssed everybody else is p!ssed.

Dr. Jeff please join me.
 
You're welcome everyone😀. It's not over yet because these hardcore leftists are still planning to shove it down our throat.

My donations to Sen. Lieberman campaign 4 years ago and Sen. Brown campaign last week were well spent; I promise to spend thousand $$$ more to beat back this obamanation. If this deeeeepest blue state of MA is p!ssed everybody else is p!ssed.

Dr. Jeff please join me.

Oh believe me Daurang I have both through personal contributions to many state and federal candidates and now heading into my 10th year of regular contributions to CT's dental political action committee!
 
The health care bill is not dead yet. The dems can try to ram it through before swearing in Sen. Brown.
But lets hope not.


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Wednesday that there is no firm commitment for Democrats to rush a healthcare bill through Congress this year. “First of all, we’re not going to rush into anything,” he said. “We’re going to wait until the new senator arrives until we do anything more on health care.”
 
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Wednesday that there is no firm commitment for Democrats to rush a healthcare bill through Congress this year. “First of all, we’re not going to rush into anything,” he said. “We’re going to wait until the new senator arrives until we do anything more on health care.”

I'd bet that with respect to Reid and the senate, that there's more than a few of those 59 remaining senators who voted for the bill in that X-mas Eve AM jam through vote that will seriously ask themselves before voting for it again if Obama's political career is more important to them then THEIR political career, because in all likelyhood there's more than a few that voted yes that realize that if they vote yes again, that they might as well pull a Dodd and get out of the race before having to face the humiliation of getting voted out by their constituents.
 
Yes, isn't it great to watch the dems back pedal? Now they wan't to look out for the best interest of the American people...I call them on their BS! 2010 is shaping up to be a very interesting year!

BTW, glad to see that I am joing the ranks of some great people...
 
I'm fairly moderate in my political views, but when it comes to my money....GO REPUBS!!! HAHAHAHAHA :laugh:
 
What is ironic is the state with nearly universal coverage voted no to a candidate that would have sealed that same fate on the rest of the nation. WHY!? Don't want change because they like it? or realize its a bad idea? I am not for the plan passing through congress now but honestly the issue will have to be addressed at some point with common sense or they will really bring the hammer down in the future once prices get to out of control. and they will have the support from the majority then. decreased coverage and increased costs to any constituency is a great platform for a motivated candidate to use in the future to implement more dramatic changes than currently proposed (the umbrella use of the common good argument is a powerful tool in politics). I think nipping this thing in the behind a little now will bring about less pain in the future; for all involved. but how, now that is the question?
 
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The argument made a couple years ago is the the same argument now. "We need to have it to control rising cost" so we passed it here in MA and cost still rise 30% every year since then; and now we have the most expensive rate in the USA. To put it simply, it's best you don't believe anything the government tells you. If it was so great, they wouldn't need to bribe unions and interest groups and senators behind closed door. The government can't even fix their public employee unions ridiculous wages/benefits/pensions huge deficit and they want to fix our healthcare problem by taking it over. You gotta be nuts! Go down the Register of Motor Vehicle and experience how much government really care about you with the caring exceptional service their lazy@ss workers provide.
 
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You don't control costs by fronting billions of dollars in the short term to wait for potential payoff's in the long-term. Especially in a time like now. You take small steps without the HUGE spending, see the results, and then make policy. You don't shove reform down people's throats at the costs of billions with no idea of the outcome.

Govt has rarely managed anything well and do their best to destroy incentives for anyone in this country to be innovative and successful. They want us all to have the exact same wage regardless of how hard we work in life. Maybe someday the govt can decrease incentives enough such that we can have your average joe performing heart surgery.

Duarang - agreed, govt absolutely breeds laziness.

Two small steps the govt could take now without spending billions of taxpayer's dollars...1) cap malpractice lawsuits and 2) decrease educational costs....

-oh I forgot, govt is made up of attorney's so I guess number 1 is out of the question.
 
No government; check and couldn't agree more, as a libertarian I believe in individualism and small government... NO WHERE do i suggest the government should be the one to carry out such a massive undertaking. I am well aware of the inefficiencies bred out of a beaureucratic system like big govt. this doesn't preclude the fact that the issue will have to be addressed at some point in time and the sooner we get our hands around the situation the less pain we will have to incur in the future. The back and forth that will likely result from comments like we need change blur out the fact that change is what we need. I don't believe govt. is the vehicle best suited to carry out this change. But it must begin. I believe 1/6th of our economy is sufficient in terms of a monetary measure to deal with the issue with OUT increasing taxes. Keep the system private but make the incentives a more communal process. examples of this type of system include the mayo clinic, marshfield clinics in wisconsin or cleveland clinics, they have consistently delivered excellent outcomes while keeping cost growth to a minimum; this is the outcome I hope we achieve. but HOW? as I said, is the question.
 
You're welcome everyone😀. It's not over yet because these hardcore leftists are still planning to shove it down our throat.

My donations to Sen. Lieberman campaign 4 years ago and Sen. Brown campaign last week were well spent; I promise to spend thousand $$$ more to beat back this obamanation. If this deeeeepest blue state of MA is p!ssed everybody else is p!ssed.

Dr. Jeff please join me.
Why exactly does the will of about 100,000 people (5% of voters, the margin the Republicans won) in Massachusetts mean the American people are against health care reform? America spoke in 2008 when we elected a president that promised health care reform. The real message from Massachusetts was that people want jobs and they don't want their money lining the pockets of fat-cat bankers who lost them their jobs in the first place. To them, healthcare reform isn't bad, it's just a sideshow.🙂

Why does everyone here pretend that there are no flaws in our health care system, and does everyone really think there is a single member of the GOP - now or to be elected in the future - that's serious about healthcare reform?

The bill will pass, it will take time to seat Brown.
 
Why exactly does the will of about 100,000 people (5% of voters, the margin the Republicans won) in Massachusetts mean the American people are against health care reform? America spoke in 2008 when we elected a president that promised health care reform. The real message from Massachusetts was that people want jobs and they don't want their money lining the pockets of fat-cat bankers who lost them their jobs in the first place. To them, healthcare reform isn't bad, it's just a sideshow.🙂


...because there is something call the Constitution of the United States of America that allows for filibuster so we don't turn into Venezuela...and the president promised (EIGHT TIMES) but lied to us that all negotiation will be broadcast on C-SPAN...and the latest Rasmussen Poll showed 56% opposed to only 38% support healthcare reform. Rasmussen is pretty darn accurate in all the previous elections including the Brown upset win, unlike the Boston Globe with their bs poll having Coakley with a 15 points win.
 
...because there is something call the Constitution of the United States of America that allows for filibuster so we don't turn into Venezuela...and the president promised (EIGHT TIMES) but lied to us that all negotiation will be broadcast on C-SPAN...and the latest Rasmussen Poll showed 56% opposed to only 38% support healthcare reform. Rasmussen is pretty darn accurate in all the previous elections including the Brown upset win, unlike the Boston Globe with their bs poll having Coakley with a 15 points win.
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Don't worry, Obama got this situation under control.

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The real message from Massachusetts was that people want jobs and they don't want their money lining the pockets of fat-cat bankers who lost them their jobs in the first place. To them, healthcare reform isn't bad, it's just a sideshow.🙂

Nah.

People from MA pay taxes well above and beyond padding a few bankers wallets. They're tired of their own party continuing wars and ill-contrived health care reform that will cost them even more than what they're already paying.

MA voted republican to stalemate and prevent this pathetic, worthless, govt from being able to screw up this country any more than it already has.
 
I am speechless 😕. Kalifornia is begging Obama for bailout to close their annual $20BILLION deficit and now this just in...

SACRAMENTO, Calif.—A key legislative committee in California revived a bill Thursday to create a government-run health care system in the nation's most populous state, two days after Massachusetts elected a senator who opposes the president's national health care plan.
The Senate Appropriations Committee released the bill for a vote by the full Senate next week. The legislation had been held over from last year because of the state's ongoing budget crisis.

Creating a single-payer system would cost California an estimated $210 billion in its first year. That's roughly double the size of the total state budget.
 
The bill will pass, it will take time to seat Brown.

Nope. In case you missed it, Reid said that nay HC vote in the senate WON'T take place until after Brown is seated, and Obama said that any HC vote in the senate SHOULDN'T take place until after Brown is seated.

The dems know that if they pulled a maneuver like that, given the lack of transparency lately with their HC moves, that the backlash from the general public would be massive, especially since in basically all polls out there (some deep left leaning ones excluded) are against this bill. If anything, Brown's seating gives the dems the excuse they've been looking for if healthcare doesn't pass, they can blame the republicans (or in some way I'm sure it will all be Bush's fault 🙄 )
 
In the wild, there is no healthcare. In the wild healthcare is, "Ow, I hurt my leg. I can't run. A lion eats me and I am dead." Well I am not dead. I am the lion. You're dead.