The Alphabet of Professionalism!

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GiantSteps

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There have been many SDN Psychology debates putting the Ph.D. against the Psy.D. Whatever your opinion is of the debate, at least we know that those are legitimate doctoral degrees that enable one to get the well respected state license in psychology.

Today I got a brochure about a mental health conference. I looked at the presenter's credentials and nearly hurled!:barf: Has professionalism just come down to how many alphabet letters one can stick after his/her name?

This psychologist (who does have a Ph.D. - that is fine) also has the following letters:

1. CHT - Certified Hypnotherapist
2. CT - Certified Thanatologist (from ADEC - Association for Death Education and Counseling).
3. GMS - Grief Management Specialist, and
4. CPBS - Certified Pastoral Bereavement Specialist

What on earth is the point of all of these certifications. I could see if the psychologist did not have a doctoral degree and a state psychology license, then the person might want to sound more legitimate, but once one is a state licensed doctoral level psychologist, these other certifications seem meaningless. Unless the person gets to bill at a higher rate. If anything, these other combinations of letters after the Ph.D. only belittle the Ph.D. (i.e. it would not be good enough without these additional certifications). Does anyone know what the APA thinks of all these others certifications floating around out there which doctoral level psychologists doing applied work pick up?

Let me give an example which counters the need for the extra certifications. There is a well known Applied Behavior Analysis certification which does mean something if one only has an undergraduate degree, a Masters, an Educational Doctorate, or a non-licensed Ph.D. in Psychology. However, I once asked a behavioral clinical psychology professor if the doctoral students of the professor at the school were getting the ABA certification in addition. The professor said that there was absolutely no need since the Ph.D. students would eventually get a state license which would legally allow them to do anything the ABA certification would allow and more. In addition, the students did get the behavior analysis course work so they knew the material. In short, the extra certification for the licensed clinical Ph.D. person is pointless.

Maybe I am wrong and maybe states require licensed doctoral psychologists to have certain extra certifications before they implement certain types of practices but many of these extra certifications seem bogus to me.

I do understand that even a licensed psychologist would not ethically attempt methods on a patient with which he/ she in which he/ she was not trained. I also see nothing wrong with getting extra training in different types of professional methodology. However, to list the training as a long string of supposedly impressive sounding letters seems silly.
 
I agree with you - at that point, it seems like the guy has an inferiority complex and is just trying to boost himself.

You'd think he'd be happy with a Ph.D; that's hard enough...
 
In my experience, the more of these "BS" credentials that people add after their names, the less qualified and more insecure they actually are. Either that, or they're arrogant prestige ******. Just an N=1, but that's my take on it.

Once you have "Dr." in front of your name, the public generally respects your qualifications, and will simply ASK if you have experience in ABA, child therapy, hypnosis, etc.
 
In my experience, the more of these "BS" credentials that people add after their names, the less qualified and more insecure they actually are.

Damn, I knew I should have gone for the BA instead of the BS 😛
 
I think for someone seeking training, I think some of those can be useful.....at least the legitimate ones. It seems that ABA is generally accepted, though I don't get a doc level person doing it, but maybe that's just me. As for some of those other 'degrees' and certs....good lord.

-t
 
My take is that once you have your professional license credential you are good to go. I think that continuing education is important and so that leads some folks to collect certifications, and acronyms. At one point I had a professor that practically could fill the blackboard with all of the crazy acronyms after his name, but he just said that the letters did not really matter but that the professional competence did. Granted belonging to all of those certifications/organizations may allow for greater networking/practice building/socializing oppurtunities, which even then you do not need to list all of the acronyms after your name.
 
Nothing wrong with continuing education (actually I think there is something wrong with graduating and NOT continuing your education). But listing additional certifications seems like a cry for attention.

For me, it will probably be PhD. Or MD/PhD if I have a mid-life crisis and decide to go back to med school. Anything beyond that seems like overkill. Its like a surgeon listing every single procedure he knows how to perform.
 
I seems pretty obvious to me when extra credentials are listed for legitimate reasons (e.g. someone giving a talk on therapy with clients who have had a death in the family could reasonably use Giant's CT, GMS, and CPBS) and when massive strings are just used to impress (ever see someone do the full Dr. Jason Joe, BA, MA, PhD? Crazy!).
 
I seems pretty obvious to me when extra credentials are listed for legitimate reasons (e.g. someone giving a talk on therapy with clients who have had a death in the family could reasonably use Giant's CT, GMS, and CPBS) and when massive strings are just used to impress (ever see someone do the full Dr. Jason Joe, BA, MA, PhD? Crazy!).


Oh...Oh! I want the Crazy! credential!

😀

-t
 
I seems pretty obvious to me when extra credentials are listed for legitimate reasons (e.g. someone giving a talk on therapy with clients who have had a death in the family could reasonably use Giant's CT, GMS, and CPBS) and when massive strings are just used to impress (ever see someone do the full Dr. Jason Joe, BA, MA, PhD? Crazy!).

I've had employers/individuals who required that I put my undergrad and master's degree credentials behind my name for various reasons. I argued with them but the frakkers would not listen and did it anyway. 🙄

Oh, and don't forget the military ranks! I love the "Dr. [insert rank] Name" or "[Rank] Dr. Name" . . . I had a few classes with a Dr. Brigadier General Professor Doe once. T'was quite the mouthful!
 
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