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Wondering how to become a proficient troll on SDN.
in beforeWondering how to become a proficient troll on SDN.
Starting pointless threads like this that contribute absolutely nothing is a good start.
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So you're saying that by being an idiot, thus spreading false information automatically qualifies you as candidate for troll?
Make threads with titles like "3.9/37 Should I retake my MCAT?!?"
What do I do if I don't have those stats?😱
What do I do if I don't have those stats?😱
Make threads with titles like "3.9/37 Should I retake my MCAT?!?"
Who said you have to tell the truth? That's the internet for you.
Tacky obvious troll: start out posting about URMs, MD vs DO, "Oh, I got a 40 on the MCAT, but it was a 15/15/10 split, should I retake?"
More subtle troll: post some research or news articles about how women are less fit to be physicians, leave the thread for a while until it's on fire, then really fan the flames. They'll never see it coming.
Post count: 1, signed up in that same month
Troll level: noob
This one is really good; baits me everytime.
I would also listen to this song, it might help.
http://goo.gl/aLOMV
Interesting trolling strategy OP... troll by asking how to troll. Didn't see that coming.
Ask noworkhistory, he is an expert
[B said:madglee[/B];13140314]I wouldn't worry about it; there are plenty of patients for both psychiatrists and psych NPs. I understand your question, though. I got a very high MCAT score 12 years ago when I was switching professions, and looked at both medical school and NP school. I chose NP school because I knew I wanted psychiatry and other than ECT, I knew I'd be able to do anything a psychiatrist could do with about 85% of the reimbursement rates, often independently. Granted, I can't demand the same salary despite doing the same work, but hopefully that's changing.
The schooling is similar: 4 year BS + 4 year Med school vs. 4 year BS + 3-4 year doctorate and usually 1 year of residency balled into it. That saves 3 years of residency working 80 hours a week for 40k a year. That is why I think it very important for NPs coming out of school to think of themselves as in residency and have respect for psychiatry rather than running around making mistakes. I actually learned tons in 2 years of working with several psychiatrists and doctorally prepared NPs.
The New England Journal of Medicine recently released facts that despite the more extensive schooling of MD/DOs, outcomes were rarely any different, and in fact some cases better, when patients were seen by NPs. This is probably because NPs are more conscientious in many cases, "dotting i's and crossing t's," although there may be some invalidity there also due to generally lower case loads at this point.
As far as seeing patients on all the wrong meds, this is not an NP thing. I cannot believe the lunacy I get patients on after seeing psychiatrists. Tons of Xanax to come down from the Adderall. Seroquel 100mg AM, Risperdal 1mg HS, multiple low dosage antipsychotics or antidepressants from the same class - the list goes on and on.
With the proper experience, any NP or psychiatrist can be excellent. Without it, any NP or psychiatrist can be terrible. I would say performance in psychiatry is far more dependent on experience and intellect than education. I've worked side by side with many psychiatrists and am often surprised to find myself teaching them. However, I've also met some seriously inept NPs who shouldn't be practicing, and as I said before, learned TONS from some extremely intelligent psychiatrists and NPs who'd been practicing for many years.
It comes down to experience and intellect, really. I wouldn't be quick to lump NPs into somehow not knowing as much as MD/DOs in psychiatry. Sure, you have tons of classes from years ago which gave you a nice foundation in all the systems, but you're not actually using that information in practice, and no doubt forgetting it. That's why there are specialties, and if you understand advanced A&P, patho, pharmacology, psychopharmacology, biology, chemistry, and neuro, you're good to go. NP schools teach all that.
In 19 states NPs are completely autonomous and directly competing with psychiatrists very successfully. But again, there is a nearly endless supply of psychiatric patients. I like working together and collaborating, both inpatient and outpatient, rather than competing. There's always plenty more to be learned, techniques one might not have thought of, etc.
If medical schools want to concentrate on one thing, I'd say surgery. That is something no NP curriculum can possibly compete with, nor will it ever try.
Also, you can be happy about the respect issue. I have to deal with a lot of nonsense being an NP rather than an MD and it's fairly infuriating.[/QUOTE]
Yes this is a real post: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=953675
I'm sorry to say I fed the troll.