The biggest BS in DO education.

[J1515]

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This is an all too common occurrence with pre-meds. Either they experience a single school and assume all schools are the same, or they hear rumors or unfounded statements (unfortunately many on SDN) and believe those to be true.

That's why pre-meds shouldn't be allowed to answer questions about medical schools. They should only be allowed to ask.

By the way, just to further reinforce that the OP really has no clue what he's talking about, I should add that at my school if you do CHOOSE to do a rotation in a different state, housing is provided in many instances.

If any pre-meds have any other questions feel free to PM either me or one of the numerous other people on SDN who actually attend/attended a medical school and can give you accurate information. I can't comment on every single medical school, but I can tell you about mine and the others in the area that we rotated with.

 

[EastWestN2grt]

I still don't believe the school really exists either and personally, I wouldn't touch that ATSU-SOMA branch campus "CHC" model with a 10-foot pole. Something really smells and I think I'll plug my nose on SOMA and see how all that really turns out.

It truly is disappointing when future DOs attack each other's schools, even in a seemingly innocent manner.

This thread is just reeking of short tempers, anger and just general 'un-niceness'. My initial involvement in this was to clarify a misconception that whiterabbit said in one of his posts about SOMA. There is a LOT of ignorance in SDN about osteopathic medicine, DO schools, etc and since some random pre-med stumbling onto this thread may get a wrong impression about SOMA from WRs mis-statement, I clarified it. With that said, WRs response to me took a little swipe at SOMA using one of TTs older, rather lame jokes about SOMA "not existing". of course, I swiped back. Well SOMA exists alright, not to mention started by the founding DO school with a long, excellent reputation to back it. To quote Dr Midlife, SOMA is "unapologetic" in its mission to Work with the underserved at the community health centers. If it isn't for you fine.

Regardless of the future quality of RVU. Without a doubt, right or wrong, your school has garnered the most attention of any other new DO school. And the attention stems only from its for-profit status. My main problem lies in the questions I have gotten as a DO student, primarily from acquaintances/friends who are MDs, or MD students about this new for-profit "DO" school. In none of these situations has it been a positive question, as in "Hey what a great idea a for profit DO school." It is an issue that should be limited to RVU and those involved in the school, and not reflected on any other school or the profession as a whole,but it is. Thus I say the "smell" from Centennial is shared by all DO schools right now, which is unfair. You and your classmates better get used to being under the microscope for the next 4 years because like it or not any NEW medical schools including SOMA are scrutinized. And that little change from non to for is going to put even more pressure on you guys to perform for better or worse.

With all things said, i am hoping for your success.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Good luck to you, Jagger, wherever you end up and whatever you end up doing in life.

Thank you.


Listen (I said I wouldn't respond anymore but err whatever) ...

I'm not trying to insult you or anyone else. Yes, sometimes attitudes (mine included) can be immature and unprofessional on the forums, but this is 100% in response to immature and unprofessional questions. The OPs question was not sincere (he place the phrase 'BS' in the thread title!!!!), there is no way to look past this. It was rude, insulting and stereotypical, and he received rude, insulting, stereotypical responses. If the OP asked a question that I thought was honest and fair I would have been completely civil and done my best to answer it.

What bothers me here is people validating his trolling because they partially agree with what he is saying. If you agree with it, that is completely, completelyyy fine, but doesnt negate the fact that the information was presented in a manner to purposely stir things up. I'm not going to say that some osteopathic programs potentially do not have negative aspects because that would be generalizing (like the OP did) and there are two sides to everything in life.

I also want you to know that I am not personally insulting you. You can think what you would like about my character or attitude towards others on the forums, but I'm not in any way calling you out. You've made the journey and I honestly congratulate on all your success. I was simply caught off guard when a DO resident didn't at least stick up for their education. I understand you don't identify yourself by the letters behind your name which is perfectly fine and your decision, but I don't see how defending something you worked very hard through to achieve your professional status is betraying who you are. I don't really identify myself with the undergraduate institution I attend, but I did work very hard to get and stay where I am, and if someone came on here making rash generalizations I would at least correct them. Even if some aspects of the rant were based in truth, I would still point out the fact that making blanket claims is foolish and correct the points I felt were wrong, and comment on the truth of the matter in a civil manner.

If I have offended anyone in this thread (besides the OP) I apologize, it was not my intent. However, I will not give genuine comments to questions of this manner, nor will I feel pressured to not fire back. I feel that responding to my comments with 'why are you feeding the troll' is hilariously ironic, and feel that all opinions and comentary (in line with TOS) on the boards should receive appropriate answers. Ask a foolish question, get a foolish response. Good luck to you as well VAL ... I hope our interactions are more friendly from here on out.

 

[gasapple]

This thread is just reeking of short tempers, anger and just general 'un-niceness'. My initial involvement in this was to clarify a misconception that whiterabbit said in one of his posts about SOMA. There is a LOT of ignorance in SDN about osteopathic medicine, DO schools, etc and since some random pre-med stumbling onto this thread may get a wrong impression about SOMA from WRs mis-statement, I clarified it. With that said, WRs response to me took a little swipe at SOMA using one of TTs older, rather lame jokes about SOMA "not existing". of course, I swiped back. Well SOMA exists alright, not to mention started by the founding DO school with a long, excellent reputation to back it. To quote Dr Midlife, SOMA is "unapologetic" in its mission to Work with the underserved at the community health centers. If it isn't for you fine.

Regardless of the future quality of RVU. Without a doubt, right or wrong, your school has garnered the most attention of any other new DO school. And the attention stems only from its for-profit status. My main problem lies in the questions I have gotten as a DO student, primarily from acquaintances/friends who are MDs, or MD students about this new for-profit "DO" school. In none of these situations has it been a positive question, as in "Hey what a great idea a for profit DO school." It is an issue that should be limited to RVU and those involved in the school, and not reflected on any other school or the profession as a whole,but it is. Thus I say the "smell" from Centennial is shared by all DO schools right now, which is unfair. You and your classmates better get used to being under the microscope for the next 4 years because like it or not any NEW medical schools including SOMA are scrutinized. And that little change from non to for is going to put even more pressure on you guys to perform for better or worse.

With all things said, i am hoping for your success.

I stand by what I said about SOMA so don't lecture me. I'm not able to go to RVUCOM (it's KCUMB) so I wasn't defensive based on your comments -although they were unnecessary and overboard IMHO. I think you were needlessly rude and inconsiderate to that user (WR); I think he deserves as much respecet as anyone and you took the liberty to start berating him. He never attacked SOMA in a serious manner and your retaliation was cowardly IMO. You can quote whomever you want and also make all the parallels you want to justify your branch school's unknowns; that new CHC model still remains unproven and I didn't want to be a part of it. Period.

I might reconsider voicing my opinion with regard to SOMA if you'd shown restraint toward WR. There's no loyalty or compassion toward fellow DOs (students and practicing) around here and I think it seriously deprives the DO profession of any real cohesiveness - at least in this forum. It's no different than the allo boards and just human nature I suppose.

If you're gonna dish a hard line you should be able to take it in return so stop your whining. Maybe instead of "plugging your nose" as you suggest earlier in this thread, you should try plugging your mouth and refrain from belittling others and their accomplishments or chosen schools.

 

[jbone]

Nothing against Pre-meds....but why do they think they know everything about medicine or medical school? Try asking an actual medical student. Quit making blanket statements and do some research before you come on here making stupid a$$ remarks.

Shy....were we ever this clueless and naive?

 

[J1515]

Nothing against Pre-meds....but why do they think they know everything about medicine or medical school?

For the same reason they raise their hand in every class to answer questions - they love to hear themselves talk <about things they know nothing about>.

 

[ShyRem]

jbone, I think we had a little more respect for ourselves and a bit more professionalism (both of which are significantly lacking in society in general anymore - *sigh*).

I think we were terribly naive in other ways, and I think everyone is clueless before they actually enter the maelstrom they call "medical school." And that's before they have to learn how to fight with administration type folks while they try and keep their heads above water from the plethora of information.

 

[ShyRem]

However, let me say (on this thread as in so many others), that if y'all can't play nice i'm gonna shut it down.

Be respectful.
Be nice.
Be professional.
And try to be a little more mature, please.

Either that or shut down your computers and go have a beer. Or two. And chocolate. Lots of chocolate.

 

[EastCoaster78]

The OP is a little pre-med student talking smack about an entire profession. You have yet to even visit a medical school and, I doubt, you have met more than three DOs. Nascardoc knows his ****, DCOM doesn't have its students running around like "gypsies." Next time at least refrain from being a trite little ******g when you troll. 🙂

where is dcom? how old is dcom? i mustve had my head buried in the sand these past couple years being so busy, has this school been around long enough for its students to be in rotations.

 

[EastWestN2grt]

I stand by what I said about SOMA so don't lecture me. I'm not able to go to RVUCOM (it's KCUMB) so I wasn't defensive based on your comments -although they were unnecessary and overboard IMHO. I think you were needlessly rude and inconsiderate to that user (WR); I think he deserves as much respecet as anyone and you took the liberty to start berating him. He never attacked SOMA in a serious manner and your retaliation was cowardly IMO. You can quote whomever you want and also make all the parallels you want to justify your branch school's unknowns; that new CHC model still remains unproven and I didn't want to be a part of it. Period.

I might reconsider voicing my opinion with regard to SOMA if you'd shown restraint toward WR. There's no loyalty or compassion toward fellow DOs (students and practicing) around here and I think it seriously deprives the DO profession of any real cohesiveness - at least in this forum. It's no different than the allo boards and just human nature I suppose.

If you're gonna dish a hard line you should be able to take it in return so stop your whining. Maybe instead of "plugging your nose" as you suggest earlier in this thread, you should try plugging your mouth and refrain from belittling others and their accomplishments or chosen schools.

I dont see anyone on this forum whining and lecturing but you! Why do you have to defend WR? this started out as a misstatement on WRs part, that I tried to clarify, this was followed by a jab from him, and a jab back from me. Like you said, if you dish it out, you better take it--I for one dont sit back and just take it and will dish it out when necessary. And now is definetely one of those times!

I considered WRs original statement spoken with simple ignorance, so I set out to clarify it, I felt HIS reply to me was rude and inconsiderate, and if he was trying to be funny well he simply fell flat. And then this sentence, "Individuals on my blacklist usually need to be greater than one mile away with adverse conditions in order to get off said list" reeks of military machismo. He was either trying to be funny, or scare me. Either way, growing up in a military family, I found it slightly amusing, and responded in kind. He took a jab at my school, I took a lower blow jab at his. And then comes Gas apple on his high and mighty horse--spewing whatever self righteous baloney you have been spewing.

None of my statements attacked WR. If there was ever any thing I attacked it was RVU. Now if you want to associate someones acceptance to RVU and correlate my attack on RVU as an attack on them, thats your problem. Im not in anyway belittling anyone on this forum by NOT liking RVU. Its an opinion, that many others have. Deal with it! I am standing with my original statements about the school! Simple.

I for one don't blindly give my allegiance to people who i interact with on the internet. This forum doesnt reflect even a fraction of the DO profession--with my classmates, and professors, and the clinicians I interact with on a daily basis, if they have earned my respect they will get it. BUT just because someone has a DO behind their name doesn't automatically get my respect. I have met DOs, and DO students that I would NEVER want to refer a patient too, at the same time I have met MDs, NPs, PAs etc who I would refer my family to in a heartbeat. To even think this silly forum "deprives the DO profession of any real cohesiveness" is the silliest, most outright ludicrous statement I have heard in a long time, and guess what gasapple YOU said it!

If you have a problem with me, address it to me and don't try to include my school in the equation. Im not about to make a general statement about KCUMB because they accepted you. I dont like your self righteous attitude in this forum, BUT I accept that your background, GPA, and MCAT was good enough to make you a future colleague-congratulations, you may even make a good doctor one day. But you'll never make a good preacher! Stay out of the pulpit.
Respond as you wish!

 

[gasapple]

Plug it.

 

[ShyRem]

So. I *did* warn y'all. Closing.

*sigh*