The Collective Stories of the Aggressive M3

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EWWWW I would have choked the PPT pact destroyer!!!!!!!!!! 😡

Pacts are stupid. If this PPT person did not agree to be part of the pact, I commend him/her for standing up against the conformists

 

[Anka]

$5 says you'll be delivering a dozen babies at roadsides, concerts, movie theaters, trains, planes, and automobiles before you hang up that steth for good.

Probably the most useful thing I learned on Ob/Gyn regarding delivering babies wasn't part of the rotation itself. There was this little video that was available in the hospital library intended for nurses not going into Ob/Gyn. It dealt with how you deal with impending delivery when you are not an Ob/Gyn. No cervical exams were involved, I assure you! In fact, there were a bunch of tricks for trying to delay matters until someone qualified arrived!

Anka

 

[OncoCaP]

Probably the most useful thing I learned on Ob/Gyn regarding delivering babies wasn't part of the rotation itself. There was this little video that was available in the hospital library intended for nurses not going into Ob/Gyn. It dealt with how you deal with impending delivery when you are not an Ob/Gyn. No cervical exams were involved, I assure you! In fact, there were a bunch of tricks for trying to delay matters until someone qualified arrived!

Anka

*Shakes Head* I guess there is no substitute for resourcefulness.

I can be detached when I need to be, but to do a cervical exam with no gloves outside a hospital or examination room on a complete stranger about to give birth in pain would take some extra courage even if you did them all the time, methinks. 😳

I'm just wondering if you can't do a cervical exam, how are you supposed to know if it's OK to push if the birth cannot be delayed. I'm not sure how you would get out of that. I guess if you don't know how or aren't comfortable doing it, then you really have no choice but to give it your best guess as to what to tell the "patient."

 

[45408]

Nothing is absolute.

Every rule has an exception, except this one.

 

[classof2011]

Pacts are stupid. If this PPT person did not agree to be part of the pact, I commend him/her for standing up against the conformists

I think thats fair to say....However, I would not agree with being a member of the Law and then breaking it unfairly so that classmates will suffer....If the M3 didnt want to be a part of that group then all is well, but that was not the idea proposed by the poster (atleast I dont think it was).....To me He/She was saying that the M3 acted as if they were all for the concept, and then deliberately forged the PPT in order to gain status...thats clearly CRUDDY....and the M3 deserves to be under the list of "The Aggressive M3s".

Now if there was a miscommunication among the students that she (I think they said it was a female) wouldnt be holding back the strategy then oh well, she won, they suck. Again, I dont think thats what the poster was getting at.

 

[jonb12997]

how about the type that is constantly stuck to their PDAs? those that can't answer a question without looking it up. I've heard stories, but haven't experienced it for myself yet...

 

[Long Dong]

Pacts are stupid. If this PPT person did not agree to be part of the pact, I commend him/her for standing up against the conformists

Said person did agree to the pact.

 

[da8s0859q]

Said person did agree to the pact.

Which makes said person a ****.

 

[Sartre79]

Every rule has an exception, except this one.

(sigh)

 

[45408]

(sigh)

(groan)

 

[Sartre79]

(groan)

It's gonna be OK.

 

[hyperorchidism]

[/PHP]

It's gonna be OK.

I think, therefore it's gonna be OK.

 

[Sartre79]

[/php]

I think, therefore it's gonna be OK.

I often ponder the opposite...My dogs never really seem to have a bad day.

 

[da8s0859q]

I often ponder the opposite...My dogs never really seem to have a bad day.

I want to be a dog in my next life.

 

[Sartre79]

I want to be a dog in my next life.

with the caveat of living with a really good home.....

We saved our Choc Lab from a shelter and she was pretty messed up when we got her b/c of the previous owners(was afraid of the bathroom....no other rooms...just the bathroom....and deathly afraid of stairs). She lives the high life now though. I bet she is sleeping on my bed...on my pillow at the moment while I type this from my "cube of oppression" at work.

 

[dannylee718]

I often ponder the opposite...My dogs never really seem to have a bad day.

Ignorance is bliss... only until that ignorance kills you. lol.

 

[Newsradiofan]

I got one ...
During an Ob/Gyn rotation, a girl on the team was supposed to be paging everyone else on the team for task x, y, or z. However, she wouldn't page other students and end up as the only one who showed up. After a bit of this, the attendings thought that the other students were lazy, the students didn't know why they were not being told of procedure x going on on the 4th floor and the residents didn't know why the girl was the only one showing up. The R3 put it together and the girl received a LP on the rotation (plus word spread like wildfire and she became the most hated person in the hospital, and believe me that there were many hated people in said academic center).

 

[Cuteasaurus]

"and the girl received a LP on the rotation ..."

Maybe it's because I'm on call, but I read that and thought "they did a lumbar puncture on her as punishment?" Hahaha, sigh.

 

[classof2011]

I got one ...
During an Ob/Gyn rotation, a girl on the team was supposed to be paging everyone else on the team for task x, y, or z. However, she wouldn't page other students and end up as the only one who showed up. After a bit of this, the attendings thought that the other students were lazy, the students didn't know why they were not being told of procedure x going on on the 4th floor and the residents didn't know why the girl was the only one showing up. The R3 put it together and the girl received a LP on the rotation (plus word spread like wildfire and she became the most hated person in the hospital, and believe me that there were many hated people in said academic center).

Excellent....lmao...our number 5.) The Back Firer AkA dont call the team

 

[RxnMan]

Excellent....lmao...our number 5.) The Back Firer AkA dont call the team

I gotta question this one - why would any student tell another "page us when something happens?" It's not like anyone had seniority over her. Did you have some sort of rotating system? If the rest of the team foisted it upon her, then I would do the same, and to heck with the team. If they can't be bothered to take control of their education, then they lost out.

But if she volunteered to do this, then that's gunnerville and she got what she deserved.

 

[MartianOddity]

I got one ...
the girl received a LP on the rotation

What's a LP?

Otherwise, most certainly she was a horrible classmate. Sounds like one I had two years ago.

 

[da8s0859q]

Low pass, I think.

 

[classof2011]

I gotta question this one - why would any student tell another "page us when something happens?" It's not like anyone had seniority over her. Did you have some sort of rotating system? If the rest of the team foisted it upon her, then I would do the same, and to heck with the team. If they can't be bothered to take control of their education, then they lost out.

But if she volunteered to do this, then that's gunnerville and she got what she deserved.

Wow, I didnt think of it that way...(and I wouldn't as I am not an M3 yet..). Just a general question: How DID she get soo much seniority over her classmates? Isn't there like a system that requires the students to keep updated regardless of thier presence? Is this a case of the "unorganized sytem"?

 

[lord_jeebus]

Wow, I didnt think of it that way...(and I wouldn't as I am not an M3 yet..). Just a general question: How DID she get soo much seniority over her classmates? Isn't there like a system that requires the students to keep updated regardless of thier presence? Is this a case of the "unorganized sytem"?

I figured it was a case of a resident grabbing the nearest visible medical student and having her spread the word.

 

[DarksideAllstar]

I gotta question this one - why would any student tell another "page us when something happens?" It's not like anyone had seniority over her. Did you have some sort of rotating system? If the rest of the team foisted it upon her, then I would do the same, and to heck with the team. If they can't be bothered to take control of their education, then they lost out.

But if she volunteered to do this, then that's gunnerville and she got what she deserved.

As a third year, I was asked a few times by residents and attendings to call the other students on service who were in different parts of the hospital (rounding or otherwise) to see a procedure, for early rounds, for a talk, etc when they weren't nearby. It wasn't a matter of "seniority" over the other students, as a previous poster has pointed out--it was a matter of the resident trying to handle some other things (paperwork usually) while trying to get the team together, so they grab the nearest med student (or call one) and have them call the rest.

 

[RxnMan]

I figured it was a case of a resident grabbing the nearest visible medical student and having her spread the word.

As a third year, I was asked a few times by residents and attendings to call the other students on service who were in different parts of the hospital (rounding or otherwise) to see a procedure, for early rounds, for a talk, etc when they weren't nearby. It wasn't a matter of "seniority" over the other students, as a previous poster has pointed out--it was a matter of the resident trying to handle some other things (paperwork usually) while trying to get the team together, so they grab the nearest med student (or call one) and have them call the rest.

This makes more sense. If you're given a job by a resident, you do it.

...How DID she get soo much seniority over her classmates?...

You're missing my point - as a student, you don't have the ability to assign a job to another student. You're all equals. I didn't say that the job implied some special status.

 

[AmoryBlaine]

I got one ...
During an Ob/Gyn rotation, a girl on the team was supposed to be paging everyone else on the team for task x, y, or z. However, she wouldn't page other students and end up as the only one who showed up. After a bit of this, the attendings thought that the other students were lazy, the students didn't know why they were not being told of procedure x going on on the 4th floor and the residents didn't know why the girl was the only one showing up. The R3 put it together and the girl received a LP on the rotation (plus word spread like wildfire and she became the most hated person in the hospital, and believe me that there were many hated people in said academic center).

It's amazing to me how quickly this happens. There are few students in my class who are known to be difficult to work with as M3s. One time a bunch of us were sitting around talking about person X in very vague terms and one of our residents was like, "oh, you all must mean X."

Word gets around. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

 

[Newsradiofan]

jesus - med students do have to pick apart everything ... remind me not to lecture later in my career.
No, she wasn't the most senior person or anything like that. She was just there when others were not or were involved in something else. It wasn't all the time because that was her designated task or anything, also part of the reason that no one caught on straightaway.
Its a hospital, there is a lot going on.
(cranky -- i hate studying)


~nrf

 

[t33sg1rl]

Oh man... I was paired with a guy who made me want to hide in the janitor closet so people wouldn't realize I knew him. Needless to say he was a 24 year old traditional student who had never, ever held a job in his life. On Day 1, he questioned the intern/resident/attending's judgement SIX TIMES (I counted-it kept me from blushing). Some of these questions weren't even necessarily accusing the doctors, but that's how they came off-instead of asking, "How do you choose between similar drugs X, Y, or Z?" he would ask "Why didn't you give the patient X instead of Y?" Throughout, his attitude was that every single person was there solely to teach him. It probably worked fine in college, but judging by the general level of pissed-offness when he asked these questions, I don't think he honored it.

To top it off, he was 15 minutes late!

I don't know what to call this guy: The I-Don't-Need-To-Do-Residency-To-Be-Smarter-Than-My-Attending? The "I'm Paying Big $$$ To Be Here And The Customer Is Always Right?"