The hated class

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talkalot24 said:
Of all of the classes you have taken in preparation for med school, which one was the hardest (or you disliked the most)?


Bio 1. What a waste of time.
 
General chemistry lab. The material wasnt hard, but the course took wayyyyyy to much time and thoughtless effort for only being worth three credits.
 
hardest? don't know.

most hated? easy.....(soapbox moment)...
i HATE stupid-ass general education requirements!!! i am continually frustrated by the fact that i want to be a *scientist* and i can't sign in to the labs i want because it conflicts with my worthless "non-western religions" course or other such nonsense. what pisses me off is that these pretentious, uppity, academic douches think everyone needs to be "well rounded" so that people of all races, ethnicities, and sexual preferences can kiss each other on the lips and sing folk songs about the power of togetherness. that's fine, but since when does being well-rounded imply that acquiring a certain type of education confers well-roundedness? what about life experiences or personal interests? don't these suffice? no. you must sit through class after class learning about stuff you hate. why should i pay tuition dollars to take history classes? am i still in high school? what about that sense of intellectual freedom i was told i would experience in college? it was an illusion.

when i got to college, what did they want? a year of math, a year of english, a year of history and a bucnh of other crap i wouldn't normally touch with a 10-foot pole. i was trying to *leave* high school.

in short, college is a lie, and the world sucks.

ahhhh, i feel better......
 
definitely gen chem II (acids/bases) and gen chem labs sucked....orgo lab was actually fun, though
 
Physics was not my friend.
 
superdevil said:
hardest? don't know.

most hated? easy.....(soapbox moment)...
i HATE stupid-ass general education requirements!!! i am continually frustrated by the fact that i want to be a *scientist* and i can't sign in to the labs i want because it conflicts with my worthless "non-western religions" course or other such nonsense. what pisses me off is that these pretentious, uppity, academic douches think everyone needs to be "well rounded" so that people of all races, ethnicities, and sexual preferences can kiss each other on the lips and sing folk songs about the power of togetherness. that's fine, but since when does being well-rounded imply that acquiring a certain type of education confers well-roundedness? what about life experiences or personal interests? don't these suffice? no. you must sit through class after class learning about stuff you hate. why should i pay tuition dollars to take history classes? am i still in high school? what about that sense of intellectual freedom i was told i would experience in college? it was an illusion.

when i got to college, what did they want? a year of math, a year of english, a year of history and a bucnh of other crap i wouldn't normally touch with a 10-foot pole. i was trying to *leave* high school.

in short, college is a lie, and the world sucks.

ahhhh, i feel better......


you've GOT to be well rounded to be a good physician
if my orthopedic surgeon is unable to thrown down some good poetry forget him
 
Botany! **why** did I have to waste endless hours of my life classifying plants I couldn't care any less about?? I mean, it was interesting, but the level of difficulty of the class measured against it's overall contribution to my store of practical knowledge was 100/0.
 
if my orthopedic surgeon is unable to thrown down some good poetry forget him
:laugh: :laugh:

seriously, though, i do think that a physician should be well-rounded. i just don't know why adademic douches annointed themselves as the "purveyors of well-roundedness". being a well-rounded, diverse person doesn't necessarily have a damn thing to do with college. can people who didn't go to college be "well-rounded"? answer: of course they can.

damn gen eds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👎
 
superdevil said:
:laugh: :laugh:

seriously, though, i do think that a physician should be well-rounded. i just don't know why adademic douches annointed themselves as the "purveyors of well-roundedness". being a well-rounded, diverse person doesn't necessarily have a damn thing to do with college. can people who didn't go to college be "well-rounded"? answer: of course they can.

damn gen eds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👎



Let me ask you this.
Who owns the meaning of a story? The author or the reader? 😴
I sure don?t miss these ******ed essay questions from many years ago.






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That's pretty interesting. I didn't think ppl would have said gen chem to be the most worthless. Pre-med advisor was getting all anal about how med schools care about how good in chem you are moreso than bio.
 
The one I probably hated the most was Physics in terms of subject matter, but Chemistry at my school took you to Hell and back - it was by far one of the worst experiences of my life. By and large, I don't know how I survived!!! :meanie:
 
pharmacology - ewwww. guess this doesn't bode well for my second year of med school, huh? 🙁
 
I hated chem 1 and all the chem labs.
 
Organic chemistry. I think the material is much more suitable for a chemical engineer or chemical synthesist than a pre-med student. I would much rather have skipped that and taken biochem. I took P Chem too and don't remember learning anything.
 
haven't taken many classes, but i fishin hate chemistry,
i know i got a's but it took more than a piece of me.
can't pay attention to my proffy cause they just read notes in class,
you know the drill- i had to teach my own a$$.

hahah sorry 🙂
 
flighterdoc said:
Bio 1. What a waste of time.

Really? Pray tell. I'm taking it next fall.
 
SanDiegoSOD said:
General chemistry lab. The material wasnt hard, but the course took wayyyyyy to much time and thoughtless effort for only being worth three credits.

Agreed ... I busted my butt for g-chem lab (but I only got 2 credits 😡 ).
 
3 credits, 2 credits. Man, we only got 1 credit for G-chem Lab. 😡
 
hmmm, sounds like we've got a bunch of genchem-haters up in herrr
 
Organic 1--hated it. The prof was used to teaching grad students and taught the class that way, even though there were NO chem majors in there.

Organic 2--more interesting, but didn't make sense until biochem.

Animal physiology--hardest. The prof thought it was his job to weed out doctors in one semester. He tried to stuff grad/med school level physiology down our throats, saying, "if you're going to be doctors, you need to know this." Funny, I thought that's what med school was for. He was the only phys. prof, too.
"No 'A' for you!"
 
Calc II....i don't know why I had to take this, but for some reason it was required...despite my best efforts i didn't manage to learn a damn thing in this class, and I barely scraped by. Calculus has not been useful to me ONCE in my academic carrer, save understanding simple concepts like rate of change, and being able to take a simple derivative/intagral etc....all stuff I learned in Calc I in HS. I hate math, I HATE MATH, I HATE MATH!!!!

If i hated all of school as much as I hate math I don't think I would have graduated HS.
 
velocypedalist said:
Calc II....i don't know why I had to take this, but for some reason it was required...despite my best efforts i didn't manage to learn a damn thing in this class, and I barely scraped by. Calculus has not been useful to me ONCE in my academic carrer, save understanding simple concepts like rate of change, and being able to take a simple derivative/intagral etc....all stuff I learned in Calc I in HS. I hate math, I HATE MATH, I HATE MATH!!!!

If i hated all of school as much as I hate math I don't think I would have graduated HS.

I also hate calc. I had a teacher from the darkest depths of hell and he taught us math theory and mathematica in CALC 2...honors section...while the normal sections were learning standard integrals. There was one A...I scraped by with a C...my BCPM without it would be a 3.9...with it it's a 3.65...

groan
 
Bio2 and Zoology. ugh

Hardest was probably Vertebrate Physiology or Second semester Biochemistry. Class difficulty can often be based on the professor rather than the material itself. This is the case with the two classes I mentioned.
 
I hated physics. And gen chem lab.

I actually liked Ochem.
 
gen chem 1 was a nightmare, but that was b/c I had a crappy professor who couldn't teach to save her soul. I'm in physics now and it's def. the least interesting subject to me of all the sciences I've taken. In short, it blows.

favorite: organic + lab
 
definitely physics.

when the prof started off the class by telling us the following joke-

"i had a student that complained to me about the relevance of physics. i told him to think hard about it over the weekend and get back to me. on monday, the student came to me and said, 'i thought really hard about it but just can't see how physics is useful for med school'. to which i replied, 'it keeps students LIKE YOU out of med school!" then he laughed heartily.

i knew it might not be a good semester.
 
The english requirement. I have done fine in the classes, but disagree that it should be a requirement. Strongly recommended fine, but to actually make me waste an ellective is annoying.
 
Suprisingly I loved Calc 1 in high school, but when I took Calc 2 in uni, I hated it. It just wasn't interesting to me anymore. I'm not an engineering student (class was geared for engineers) and it's not required for my major, and it's not required for pre-med. Yet I took it, and I hated it. Did well in the class, but I hated it.


Good thing I took Gen Chem and Physics in high school as well. :luck: I dodged a bullet there.


Organic chem? Sure, it was difficult, but not in the sense that the material was difficult. What was difficult was that the class is graded only by a curve. Wanna know what the curve was? 15% A, next 25% B, next 40% C, everyone else D/F. It was cutthroat in the sense that it was nearly impossible to get an A or a B. I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it.


After all these classes, I'm basically in the free and clear. I'm finished with my pre-reqs by my freshman year, and I'm looking forward to my major (which I love) and my minor (which I love). Good times, people. Good times. 👍
 
Organic Lab was the worst experience of my life. In part 2 we had to do an independent synthesis project.. I chose the malonic ester synthesis to make hexanoic acid out of diethly malonate.. It sucked horribly. I had to spend an extra day or 2 in lab each week just to get it right. I was in that hell hole for 10-12 hrs a week for 6 weeks. My A was riding on producing that bitch.

Anyways the class was a breeze.. Thank god biochem lab isnt attached to the biochem class
 
superdevil said:
:laugh: :laugh:

seriously, though, i do think that a physician should be well-rounded. i just don't know why adademic douches annointed themselves as the "purveyors of well-roundedness". being a well-rounded, diverse person doesn't necessarily have a damn thing to do with college. can people who didn't go to college be "well-rounded"? answer: of course they can.

damn gen eds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👎

I believe that you are confusing "well-roundedness" with "core knowledge base." You are correct to say that non college goers can be well rounded. However, being a physician is something that requires a high level of sophistication and sensitivity, and the courses you are dismissing as pointless offer a breadth of life experiences and knowledge that broaden and refine your education, and therefore your behavior as a physician.
 
Organic Chemistry was a horrible set of classes. The material wasn't so bad so much as the grading scheme my prof had. It worked that the average grade was made a C, 10 points above was a B, 20 points above was an A. 10 points below was a D, and 20 points below was an F, regardless of what the actual distribution of the grades were. In OChem I, I got a solid B so that wasn't so bad. But I worked my butt off for an A in OChem 2. I managed to have an average 20 points above the average going into the final, but on the last day of class, the prof told us that he had recomputed the test averages by removing the grades of people who had dropped the class, so my A turned into a middle of the road B. That was painful. Another bad class was biochem, cause I was taking that class in the middle of interview season, so I missed about half the classes (because I always scheduled interviews on thursday when I would only have to miss one class, which was biochem). I ended up pass/failing that class which was good cause I got a high C. Dissapointing though because I suppose if I had been able to work harder on it, I could have gotten a better grade.
 
ZOO LAB. The most worthless class i have ever had. Taught by a GA that didnt know what sebaceous glands were (my answer to what a distinguishing quality of a mammal is).

During dissections i would cut the **** up, look at it, throw it away, and sit down twiddling my thumbs for the rest of the 3 hours we were in there (edit* it was a freshman level class, and i was a senior. boo. not like chem lab where i could leave when i finished.). One day my teacher got really pissed because i told her i wasnt going to be a clam doctor so i didnt give a flaming crap. (One of my buddies shouted in the background "dont crush other people's dreams!!!" just to annoy her even more).

One day she thought she was going to screw my by having a pop quiz to describe the circulatory system. Little did she know that i was in human anatomy that semester and raped her question, included every single major artery and vein, hepatic portals, in every path, etc. She was pissed.

Plus our joke of a class project monitoring physalia (snail) reproductive rates. What a waste of my life. 👎
 
i applied to my uni as a math major, decided i could handle an honors math class - i can now safely say I HATE MATH. (and it hates me) i didn't even know ppl got C's in an honors class (but 2 of my friends who took it with me did) i barely survived that class with a B- 👎 👎 😱

also, i will never in my life take another philosophy class ever again. 😡
 
Gen Bio all the way. I don't even know why it is a requirement. First of all bio classes are never standardized--if your prof is a botanist, you know the only thing you'll be doing all term is staring at pine cones, if they're a specialist on the freshwater clams of nothern Wisconsin, then you'll be hanging out with the mollusc family for the next 4 months. Med schools could just send all applicants a labeled diagram of a eukaryotic cell, and tell us to know it before we start med school. Maybe a drawing showing where the heart and brain are located too. That would be plenty.
 
Microbiology and applied microbiology.

Man, I know WAY too much about cheese spoilage now. 10% of those courses were facsinating and medical related but the rest were about things like deep ocean habitats. I can't even remember the last time I was living in a deep ocean.
 
worst classes: gen chem, organic, and physics labs........uggggggggggggggh. not that they were even hard, they just sucked big donkey-donk balls
 
Worst class ever = any calculus class. Every math professor here is Polish or German or something and NONE OF THEM SPEAK ENGLISH! So, basically it was me learning the worst subject imaginable by myself. After my Calc III final, I took my book to this rock-overledge and chucked it into Lake Michigan. I bet there's some fish out there right now committing suicide after trying to understand the horribleness of Calc.
 
VFrank said:
Worst class ever = any calculus class. Every math professor here is Polish or German or something and NONE OF THEM SPEAK ENGLISH! So, basically it was me learning the worst subject imaginable by myself. After my Calc III final, I took my book to this rock-overledge and chucked it into Lake Michigan. I bet there's some fish out there right now committing suicide after trying to understand the horribleness of Calc.

soooo true. mine had a thick russian accent. and my TA was an international student and also had a thick korean accent.
 
Gen Chem II.
Then again I haven't met physics yet. 😱
 
EMDream said:
Gen Chem II.
Then again I haven't met physics yet. 😱

the two semesters of physics I took were the easist hard science courses i had in college...don't fret, if you're past calc and the chems you're out of the woods
 
Physics rocks, but Physical Chemsitry, I must say, is unpleasant.
 
Quynh2007 said:
soooo true. mine had a thick russian accent. and my TA was an international student and also had a thick korean accent.


You too??
 
What's so bad about g chem lab in college? I did AP chem in hs wit lots of lab but it was okay despite being tedious.
 
youngin said:
What's so bad about g chem lab in college? I did AP chem in hs wit lots of lab but it was okay despite being tedious.
My gchem teacher spent most of his time filling balloons with acetylene and putting a flame to them. Good for bangs, but bad for your midterm grade since he didn't really teach. Anyhow, college gchem does suck, and AP Chemistry is no great indicator nor a perfect equal of what it's like in college.
 
Tie between Developmental Neuroscience, Genetics and Responsibility, and Clinical Ethics.

I got As in all of them. Wasn't about grades.

Weird? All three had minimal learning (bad professors??). The first was taught like we were in elementary school with a lot of papers that we just read to each other. The second class was one where the fellow just wanted to scrape by so he could focus more time on his research. The third was one of the most disappointing because it was deformed philosophy with no room for interpretation. I'm not Catholic, but it felt like Catholic school lessons for kiddies taught by "eminent" (read: arrogant) Hopkins doc. The TA was hot though 😀 mmmm.... public health grad students

Best classes:

Graduate Biology, Honors Calc III/Linear Alg, Islamic Philosophy, Neuroscience and Small Group Neuroscience.

All hard as hell (got some not so great grades), but learned a ton, and worked on some very interesting problems. I wish I did better in Islamic Philosophy (I bombed the final by doing an all nighter).

Not a bad course but some yucky classmates: Cell Biology. Plus it was intense as hell. Nice material but I barely had time to enjoy it. Orgo was similar.
 
physics 2,i hated all the optics and light crap.
interestingly enough,when i took the mcat,we hadnt even really went over that yet in class,so i had to figure out the stuff on the mcat based on what my kaplan teacher taught us-thank god for him.
 
Must add my vote for Physics II... absolutely the worst class ever! And I haven't used a bit of "pure" physics since I started med school. Neuroscience and physiology seem to rely more on a bio/chem amalgamation.
 
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