the krebs cycle and other fun things

[mglavin]

Hey guys I have a test next week where I basically have to know glycolysis, Krebs, electron transport, photosynthesis ect ect like the back of my hand (names/enzymes/structures). My question is should I try to commit these things to long term memory for biochemistry next fall when I’m an MS1 or should I do the normal study and forget the second the test is over routine?

What do you think?

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[DoctorPLASTIC]

Hey guys I have a test next week where I basically have to know glycolysis, Krebs, electron transport, photosynthesis ect ect like the back of my hand (names/enzymes/structures). My question is should I try to commit these things to long term memory for biochemistry next fall when I’m an MS1 or should I do the normal study and forget the second the test is over routine?

What do you think?

I have that test tomarrow! 😱And although I want to remember in case I need it in the future I know I will probably forget on purpose. (why waste brain space).

 

[Tiger26]

1)Get a white board
2)draw pathways out
3)know important regulatory steps
4)Forget everything after test
5)Read this post again next year

 

[spreebee]

Hey guys I have a test next week where I basically have to know glycolysis, Krebs, electron transport, photosynthesis ect ect like the back of my hand (names/enzymes/structures). My question is should I try to commit these things to long term memory for biochemistry next fall when I'm an MS1 or should I do the normal study and forget the second the test is over routine?

What do you think?

You don't have that memorized? I memorized all that in BIO 101 UNDERGRAD, and touched up on it in Biochem undergrad...

 

[sirus_virus]

Mnemonics.

BTW, and maybe someone can confirm or debunk this; memorizing the actual cycles and pathways(which will take you a few hours) is the least of your worries. The main problem comes with understanding what could go wrong each step of the way and the 1 million causes of those problems.

 

[Flopotomist]

You don't have that memorized? I memorized all that in BIO 101 UNDERGRAD, and touched up on it in Biochem undergrad...

To the OP.. in spite of the completely useless post above - relax... there are many people that are seeing this for the first time and are doing fine. Don't let people like spree get you down.

 

[spreebee]

To the OP.. in spite of the completely useless post above - relax... there are many people that are seeing this for the first time and are doing fine. Don't let people like spree get you down.

Useless? I expect my physician who makes decisions on my well-being to know this basic stuff from head to toe... The USMLE shouldn't be a study once and forget. If you don't know it by now, just crack at it and you'll be good to go... Sorry all I'm not here to offend anyone...

 

[spreebee]

Hey guys I have a test next week where I basically have to know glycolysis, Krebs, electron transport, photosynthesis ect ect like the back of my hand (names/enzymes/structures). My question is should I try to commit these things to long term memory for biochemistry next fall when I’m an MS1 or should I do the normal study and forget the second the test is over routine?

What do you think?

http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/255/255atp/glycolysis_pathway.jpg

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/webprojects2001/anderson/gifs/cac.gif

http://www.cellml.org/examples/images/metabolic_models/the_electron_transport_chain.gif

Also, do a search for what you need in yahoo/google video... Those can be helpful...

 

[Flopotomist]

Useless? I expect my physician who makes decisions on my well-being to know this basic stuff from head to toe... The USMLE shouldn't be a study once and forget. If you don't know it by now, just crack at it and you'll be good to go... Sorry all I'm not here to offend anyone...

My point was, the OP is not even in medical school yet, and is worrying about trying to memorize a bunch of stuff. Your post was not helpful to somebody anxious about memorizing this stuff in undergrad at all.

I certainly wasn't suggesting that the USMLE is a "study once and forget" type of exam - but I also wouldn't encourage pre-meds to panic if they don't know the Krebs cycle before they even start medical school.

 

[spreebee]

My point was, the OP is not even in medical school yet, and is worrying about trying to memorize a bunch of stuff. Your post was not helpful to somebody anxious about memorizing this stuff in undergrad at all.

I certainly wasn't suggesting that the USMLE is a "study once and forget" type of exam - but I also wouldn't encourage pre-meds to panic if they don't know the Krebs cycle before they even start medical school.

wow, what am I smoking today... I didn't catch that he wasn't in med school... Must of been that all nighter I pulled for my 8 a.m. exam...

 

[dilated]

Useless? I expect my physician who makes decisions on my well-being to know this basic stuff from head to toe... The USMLE shouldn't be a study once and forget. If you don't know it by now, just crack at it and you'll be good to go... Sorry all I'm not here to offend anyone...

Haha, good one. Let me go ask some world famous attendings what the intermediates of the Krebs cycle are.

I had an extremely prominent surgeon tell me a few months ago he couldn't even remember most of MICRO (nor did he care), let alone biochem.

 

[Tired Pigeon]

Mnemonics.

BTW, and maybe someone can confirm or debunk this; memorizing the actual cycles and pathways(which will take you a few hours) is the least of your worries. The main problem comes with understanding what could go wrong each step of the way and the 1 million causes of those problems.

This is correct.

 

[CatsandCradles]

1)Get a white board
2)draw pathways out
3)know important regulatory steps
4)Forget everything after test
5)Read this post again next year

I second this. If your class room/lecture hall has a white board - you come at night and then right the whole bloody glycolysis thing on it so everyone can see it and look at it. All the enzymes, Krebs, Citrate, Isoleucine, Succinate...etc etc...

That way you guys all will benefit.

 

[njbmd]

Hey guys I have a test next week where I basically have to know glycolysis, Krebs, electron transport, photosynthesis ect ect like the back of my hand (names/enzymes/structures). My question is should I try to commit these things to long term memory for biochemistry next fall when I’m an MS1 or should I do the normal study and forget the second the test is over routine?

What do you think?

Do whatever you have to do to get through this test. Whatever you retain will be useful to you next fall. Don't worry about the amount that you forget. Everytime you look at this stuff, you will have greater insight. Rock on the test at hand and worry about medical school biochemistry next fall.

You don't have that memorized? I memorized all that in BIO 101 UNDERGRAD, and touched up on it in Biochem undergrad...

I am very happy for you!😉

1)Get a white board
2)draw pathways out
3)know important regulatory steps
4)Forget everything after test
5)Read this post again next year

Excellent advice!👍

 

[arsenewenger]

You don't have that memorized? I memorized all that in BIO 101 UNDERGRAD, and touched up on it in Biochem undergrad...

👍

 

[Haemulon]

Useless? I expect my physician who makes decisions on my well-being to know this basic stuff from head to toe... The USMLE shouldn't be a study once and forget. If you don't know it by now, just crack at it and you'll be good to go... Sorry all I'm not here to offend anyone...

He's not even in med school yet, cut him a break. The USMLE shouldn't even be on his radar. And really, I would rather my physician be focusing more on remembering how to diagnose and treat me than being able to draw out the molecular structures of all 20 amino acids other basic stuff like that. Its the concepts that are important for a lot of things, because that is what is most likely to be remembered later on. Learning the specifics up front is important not in and of itsself, but instead because, as another poster said on another thread, it will form the basis of intuition and facilitate understanding of larger concepts later on.

 

[braluk]

Dont try to commit learning it long term- you'll most likely have to restudy it again (ahem enjoy your senior year). That said, write out all the pathways on large pieces of paper, and save em for next year. I have a whole metabolic map drawn out that connects the HMP pathways, fed and starved pathways with glycolysis, TCA, beta oxidation and synthesis, cofactors/diseases etc..etc.. that will come in handy when I need to see the big picture come boards time 🙂

 

[acute2]

Hey guys I have a test next week where I basically have to know glycolysis, Krebs, electron transport, photosynthesis ect ect like the back of my hand (names/enzymes/structures). My question is should I try to commit these things to long term memory for biochemistry next fall when I’m an MS1 or should I do the normal study and forget the second the test is over routine? What do you think?

Long term 🙂
Review first and if you have questions on Krebs, we'll try to help 🙂

 

[crazy_cavalier]

Hey guys I have a test next week where I basically have to know glycolysis, Krebs, electron transport, photosynthesis ect ect like the back of my hand (names/enzymes/structures). My question is should I try to commit these things to long term memory for biochemistry next fall when I’m an MS1 or should I do the normal study and forget the second the test is over routine?

What do you think?

Detailed knowledge of photosynthesis is about as useful as an inflatable dartboard.