Does anyone have any positive information about NSSR? How hard is it to get into their PhD Program after completing their Master's Program, and is it worth it?
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There's a thread that was updated a few days ago titled "No Gre Required" that has a lot of information on the program.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=504536
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The other thread does have some information. As for positive information:
a. the clinical training provided in the PhD program is quite highly regarded in the NYC area. Nationally, I'm not sure.
b. some faculty members are indeed fairly prominent.
c. the faculty I've talked to say that they admit about half of the people who apply (coming out of the MA program) to the PhD program. Many of those who intend to apply at the start of the MA program don't end up applying, largely because of grade pressure.
d. they don't guarantee funding, but some funding is available, if you fight for it. Just not enough. You will almost certainly not escape without loans of some type, at least not with intact savings.
e. the publication/citation ranking system (which certainly has its critics) puts them somewhere in the mid 50s as far as PhD program go.
OK, d isn't all that positive, but it's worth mentioning.
Just what I've gathered. I'm sure there is more out there.
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I dont know much about the national reputation but the people that work there are rude and not at all helpful. I was on hold for over an hour when I wanted to check the status of my application. They do not have a way to check online nor did they respond to my emails.
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If it helps, I think it was late March before they gave me the decision last year.
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some great students there, excellent training sites.
sadly, their funding is actually pretty good for NYC schools. i got a tuition 3/4 scholarship when i was accepted. many others only offer 1/2 tuition or none.
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The assistant Director of Admissions: Mr. Watkin is very helpful, as well as courteous, and was the only one -- administration level -- who has consistently responded.
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i did a masters at Columbia TC and worked in one of the core faculty's labs. the current doctoral students complained a LOT about the poor financial support there. although they may "offer" scholarships to some, they are by no means guaranteed to all; it sounded like you really have to fight for any money you get, each year.
not sure about cuny/liu though.
I'm currently a Ph.D. student at NSSR right now. The master's program is what you make of it. They let a huge number of people in (like 70-80 ppl per class). Someone above complained about being put on hold forever etc. I'm not sure that this is any different than any grad school. I know Columbia has a reputation for being horribly rude even in person during the application process.
As for the training... the master's program is great because the classes are offered in the evening so you could work during the day. I'm in the clinical program. It definitely is competative to get into the Ph.D. program post masters because to transfer to another program is kind of a waste of time as you would have to retake a lot of your courses.
The clinical program starts with a placement at on of the top training hospitals in the area. This gives a nice advantage in terms of getting placements other years.
anyway, I'm happy with the training I've received.
You should definitely consider the theoretical orientation of the program rather than funding... funding sucks pretty much everywhere. And of course who you would want to do research with. That's what is going to get you through your dissertation. you can always apply for outside funding
As for the training... the master's program is great because the classes are offered in the evening so you could work during the day. I'm in the clinical program. It definitely is competative to get into the Ph.D. program post masters because to transfer to another program is kind of a waste of time as you would have to retake a lot of your courses.
The clinical program starts with a placement at on of the top training hospitals in the area. This gives a nice advantage in terms of getting placements other years.
anyway, I'm happy with the training I've received.
You should definitely consider the theoretical orientation of the program rather than funding... funding sucks pretty much everywhere. And of course who you would want to do research with. That's what is going to get you through your dissertation. you can always apply for outside funding
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not sure about cuny/liu though.[/QUOTE]
I just interviewed at Cuny and the grad student with whom I spoke went on and on about the lack of funding there. She even cited it as the worst part of the program, and seemed pretty upset about it.
I just interviewed at Cuny and the grad student with whom I spoke went on and on about the lack of funding there. She even cited it as the worst part of the program, and seemed pretty upset about it.
I meant the counseling PhD at Columbia is fully funded. As well at the clinical PhD at CUNY-- I am a curreny MA student at CUNY
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I just interviewed at Cuny and the grad student with whom I spoke went on and on about the lack of funding there. She even cited it as the worst part of the program, and seemed pretty upset about it.[/quote]
I also interviewed at CUNY - if I remember correctly, 2 people receive a teaching fellowship, which covers tuition and you receive $15k/year in addition. I think a few others (I forgot how many) receive tuition and $20k/year for working at a counseling center 2 days a week. She said other people are able to obtain funding, but you need to seek it out yourself (doing research, etc). Classes are only Tues-Thurs so you are able to work on other days. The person I interviewed with was very positive about the funding opportunities, but she was someone who received one of the bigger fellowships.
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As for the training... the master's program is great because the classes are offered in the evening so you could work during the day.
I find that it is more of an afternoon/evening program. Majority of classes run from 4:00 - 6:00 and 6:00 - 8:00. Last semester there was only one class that was offered after 8:00. Also, as an MA student, you have some choice but not much in which classes you can take, so plan on having to be in school for classes at 4:00, at least twice a week. And if you do not live in the City, obviously, travel time has to be factored in ( and allow another 5-10 min extra for the elevators. They are slow!)
Also, some of the lab meetings take place in the middle of the day, and unless you are able to attend, you cannot take part in that lab.
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I find that it is more of an afternoon/evening program. Majority of classes run from 4:00 - 6:00 and 6:00 - 8:00. Last semester there was only one class that was offered after 8:00. Also, as an MA student, you have some choice but not much in which classes you can take, so plan on having to be in school for classes at 4:00, at least twice a week. And if you do not live in the City, obviously, travel time has to be factored in ( and allow another 5-10 min extra for the elevators. They are slow!)
Also, some of the lab meetings take place in the middle of the day, and unless you are able to attend, you cannot take part in that lab.
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Make sure that there is someone there you want to study with and doing research you are interested in and are actively pursuing that research, then it will be worth the struggle of going through the masters program.
