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Has anyone received confirmation that their initial deposit was received/processed?
****The Official UTHSC-SA Class of 2016 Acceptance Thread****
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I received an email saying that they received my application but this was long time ago. TMDSAS takes care of the application fee and they sent me an email saying that they received my application fee as well as you can see the updated status on TMDSAS application.
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Veggie was asking about the deposit they put down after they've been accepted....
If you haven't heard from them by now, your only hope for a Texas school is Houston.
Oh my bad. The second round of acceptance letter will be sent out either this week or next week.
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Hey everyone,
Congrats on being excepted to dental school, it is a huge accomplishment that takes so much hard work and dedication. I am not here to make light of that achievement. I am here to warn you to consider your options in choosing which school to attend. I do not want anyone who has worked so hard to get to school to have to go through the heartbreak and struggles that so many students at uthscsa face. Think about your options, and really do your homework in choosing where you will attend school. Best wishes to everyone.
Congrats on being excepted to dental school, it is a huge accomplishment that takes so much hard work and dedication. I am not here to make light of that achievement. I am here to warn you to consider your options in choosing which school to attend. I do not want anyone who has worked so hard to get to school to have to go through the heartbreak and struggles that so many students at uthscsa face. Think about your options, and really do your homework in choosing where you will attend school. Best wishes to everyone.
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You mind filling everybody in on what these supposed "heartbreak and struggles" are?
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Heartbreak?
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Actually I wasn't a wait lister, I was called personally on December 1st and received a very large scholarship. Heartbreaks. Well for example, 20 percent of students take 5 years to finish, around 10 percent are kicked out, if u don't have the patients third or forth year randomly assigned to u that have the requirements u need, u have to repeat the entire year. At other schools you simply finish your requirements during summer or over the course of senior year, but not at uthscsa. If your patient dies an you can't deliver a denture before the end of senior year? Too bad, you can't walk with your classmates at graduation even if you'll complete the requirement afterwards.
The "state of the art" computer monitors that are in the sim labs? You use them maybe 10 times during 2 years. Instead you are huddled around one mannequin trying to see how to do things. I'd take a old school tv monitor over that any day. And on some cases you aren't even shown, as in endo, where we were told to just read the book and figure it out.
The second years last year had a giant cheating scandal in oral pathology that was also covered up by administration so that accredidation wouldn't find out... As a result around 60 students are seeing patients in clinic that dont know what oral cancer looks like. But unlike cheating if you're simply not a favorite you will get kIcked out. The curriculum is outdated and needs some serious help which hasn't happened in years. It is very student unfriendly in terms of learning hands kills and the sciences in an effective manner.
I really don't need rude comments. I'm honestly trying to help, because if so many of us had known how bad it was here an how miserable so many of us would be we would have gone somewhere else. I have heard so many people in every class express this. This is all your decision I'm just providing the information. I am not looking to take anyone down just want to help prevent other people from going through the things I have seen
The "state of the art" computer monitors that are in the sim labs? You use them maybe 10 times during 2 years. Instead you are huddled around one mannequin trying to see how to do things. I'd take a old school tv monitor over that any day. And on some cases you aren't even shown, as in endo, where we were told to just read the book and figure it out.
The second years last year had a giant cheating scandal in oral pathology that was also covered up by administration so that accredidation wouldn't find out... As a result around 60 students are seeing patients in clinic that dont know what oral cancer looks like. But unlike cheating if you're simply not a favorite you will get kIcked out. The curriculum is outdated and needs some serious help which hasn't happened in years. It is very student unfriendly in terms of learning hands kills and the sciences in an effective manner.
I really don't need rude comments. I'm honestly trying to help, because if so many of us had known how bad it was here an how miserable so many of us would be we would have gone somewhere else. I have heard so many people in every class express this. This is all your decision I'm just providing the information. I am not looking to take anyone down just want to help prevent other people from going through the things I have seen
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Thanks for the advice but I will take the advice of numerous other people I KNOW at the school who really enjoy it. This sounds like sour grapes to me. 👎
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That's fine, to each their own. I'm just raising awareness. Because many of us thought it was the right place for us too. Good luck and congrats.
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Thank you for the advice. Just curious, why is this literally the first complaint I have ever heard regarding the school? I have talked to numerous people who attend the school who claim to love it.
Let me first start out by saying Congratulations to everyone who has been accepted. What an accomplishment! Next, let me say that I have been a long time lurker on the forums and have never really felt the urge or need to post anything until now.
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the reason brkenglass posted is to let you all be aware that some things are not always what they seem. While there are many students at UTHSCSA who enjoy their experience, there are many students who do not. I enjoyed my time for the most part, but that is not to say I agree with, and love everything about the school. Someone asked why this has been the first complaint regarding the school, and honestly I think it's because people do not want to keep you from fulfilling your dream of going to dental school. If San Antonio is the only school you get into, by all means go, but just be aware of the things that go on.
From what I have seen and heard (since I have since graduated):
There are many students who take 5 years to graduate. Some even take 6. Most of the students that take 5 years have to repeat third year due to not fulfilling clinical requirements. And for many of these students it is one crown or a few points in operative, and they get to repeat the entire year for one requirement. Not come back in the summer. Not add it on to senior year. But repeat the entire third year. There were around 5 or 6 students who were supposed to graduate in 2009 but had to repeat third year. The same thing with the class of 2010. And there was one person who was supposed to graduate in 2009, but graduated in 2011. Keep in mind this does not include those students who repeat first or second year. I have also heard that there were 10 people who were in the original class of 2012, and we're told they had to repeat third year. 10 students. From what I understand, two of these students chose not to continue on in the program. These numbers do not include the students who get kicked out. There were a couple of students a few years ago who were kicked out of third year... one in December and another in October (after only two months in clinic). For some of the students that get dismissed mid-year it is because they were doing things in clinic they shouldn't be. But for others, there is literally no apparent reason. If a faculty member doesn't like you, that could be all it takes.
There have also been instances where denture or partial patients have died right before the student is to deliver the prosthesis, and the student is required to find another case, sometimes with only 4 or 5 weeks left in the school year, or they risk repeating third year or not graduating. There was also a scenario of about 8 students who failed senior jurisprudence/ethics. In the syllabus it strictly says no remediation allowed. Well, there was remediation, and most of these students failed the remediation and were given yet another chance to pass. These students were allowed ample opportunity in a class that there was not supposed to be remediation, and they get to walk the stage. But one person gives birth during the year and falls short on requirements by only a few points and she doesn't get to walk the stage, and the people who it took three tries to pass jurisprudence do. Where do you draw the line? I don't even know the details of the oral pathology thing mentioned, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Students are also held accountable for the work that the lab does. If the lab screws up a case and you have to start over, make a new impression, etc, you are still held accountable even if it's not your fault. So many students have almost failed third year as a result of the labs messing up cases or not meeting deadlines so students can deliver cases. There was one instance where an out of state lab lost the case and the student had to start over, and another one where the lab broke the cast, and the student had to re-impress. And the student is penalized for not meeting deadlines.
Many faculty play favorites. And if you are a favorite then you will get all the good cases assigned to you and likely have more work than you know what to do with. My best advice, just play the game. Oh and if your patient doesn't pay or can't pay, guess who does? The student. That is if you want to move on to fourth year or graduate. I have heard some students pay $3000 to $4000 just do they could pass third year. They keep adding more rotations to get students out of clinic, but adding more requirements. Less clinic time and more requirements means more students repeating third year.
Every school has its positives and negatives, you just have to figure out what's important to you in a school. I am not trying to scare you away from San Antonio. There are still people who would describe their overall experience as positive (myself included). And there are still some wonderful wonderful faculty who make dental school an enjoyable experience. But I don't necessarily agree with some of the things that go on with dismissing students and making students repeat. The school should be doing everything they can to graduate students in four years. They have invested in you as much as you have invested in them.
Best of luck to everyone no matter what decision you make. You have made a wonderful career choice!
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the reason brkenglass posted is to let you all be aware that some things are not always what they seem. While there are many students at UTHSCSA who enjoy their experience, there are many students who do not. I enjoyed my time for the most part, but that is not to say I agree with, and love everything about the school. Someone asked why this has been the first complaint regarding the school, and honestly I think it's because people do not want to keep you from fulfilling your dream of going to dental school. If San Antonio is the only school you get into, by all means go, but just be aware of the things that go on.
From what I have seen and heard (since I have since graduated):
There are many students who take 5 years to graduate. Some even take 6. Most of the students that take 5 years have to repeat third year due to not fulfilling clinical requirements. And for many of these students it is one crown or a few points in operative, and they get to repeat the entire year for one requirement. Not come back in the summer. Not add it on to senior year. But repeat the entire third year. There were around 5 or 6 students who were supposed to graduate in 2009 but had to repeat third year. The same thing with the class of 2010. And there was one person who was supposed to graduate in 2009, but graduated in 2011. Keep in mind this does not include those students who repeat first or second year. I have also heard that there were 10 people who were in the original class of 2012, and we're told they had to repeat third year. 10 students. From what I understand, two of these students chose not to continue on in the program. These numbers do not include the students who get kicked out. There were a couple of students a few years ago who were kicked out of third year... one in December and another in October (after only two months in clinic). For some of the students that get dismissed mid-year it is because they were doing things in clinic they shouldn't be. But for others, there is literally no apparent reason. If a faculty member doesn't like you, that could be all it takes.
There have also been instances where denture or partial patients have died right before the student is to deliver the prosthesis, and the student is required to find another case, sometimes with only 4 or 5 weeks left in the school year, or they risk repeating third year or not graduating. There was also a scenario of about 8 students who failed senior jurisprudence/ethics. In the syllabus it strictly says no remediation allowed. Well, there was remediation, and most of these students failed the remediation and were given yet another chance to pass. These students were allowed ample opportunity in a class that there was not supposed to be remediation, and they get to walk the stage. But one person gives birth during the year and falls short on requirements by only a few points and she doesn't get to walk the stage, and the people who it took three tries to pass jurisprudence do. Where do you draw the line? I don't even know the details of the oral pathology thing mentioned, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Students are also held accountable for the work that the lab does. If the lab screws up a case and you have to start over, make a new impression, etc, you are still held accountable even if it's not your fault. So many students have almost failed third year as a result of the labs messing up cases or not meeting deadlines so students can deliver cases. There was one instance where an out of state lab lost the case and the student had to start over, and another one where the lab broke the cast, and the student had to re-impress. And the student is penalized for not meeting deadlines.
Many faculty play favorites. And if you are a favorite then you will get all the good cases assigned to you and likely have more work than you know what to do with. My best advice, just play the game. Oh and if your patient doesn't pay or can't pay, guess who does? The student. That is if you want to move on to fourth year or graduate. I have heard some students pay $3000 to $4000 just do they could pass third year. They keep adding more rotations to get students out of clinic, but adding more requirements. Less clinic time and more requirements means more students repeating third year.
Every school has its positives and negatives, you just have to figure out what's important to you in a school. I am not trying to scare you away from San Antonio. There are still people who would describe their overall experience as positive (myself included). And there are still some wonderful wonderful faculty who make dental school an enjoyable experience. But I don't necessarily agree with some of the things that go on with dismissing students and making students repeat. The school should be doing everything they can to graduate students in four years. They have invested in you as much as you have invested in them.
Best of luck to everyone no matter what decision you make. You have made a wonderful career choice!
Thanks so much for taking the time to post this. I really appreciate hearing from actual students/alums.
I also appreciate the candidness of this post. I have always heard little quips about how UTHSC-SA professors are uptight and "military-strict" but I guess it really wouldn't affect us. But now, more and more I am hearing negatives come out in the midst of all these positive marks on the school. I don't know about anyone else, but I am sh** scared now of entering here. This was my only in-state acceptance and I was not going to fork over the hundreds of thousands more I would have to if I were to attend an OOS school. I am by no means the smartest kid in the class, and pride myself on being simply "above average". I thought that with hardwork and effort, I'd be able to graduate dental school in 4 years and finally get to that point of my life where I have a steady career doing something I love. I have experienced rejection before and have worked very hard for the past two years trying to get a Master's degree to get more recognition from adcoms and it's paid off. However hearing stories of people who simply could not find enough patients to fulfill their requirements, and then having to make up THE WHOLE YEAR?! 😱 This really depresses me, knowing that I'm already behind on my "life-plan" that I had set for myself, and now there may be a chance that it maybe pushed back even more.
No one can really help with this, I am just venting. I have heard from every school and dental student that "they want you to succeed just as much as you want to" but now it seems that the requirements are set in stone and the only way if you fall behind is to make up a whole year. Sigh, oh well....I guess I should just be happy that I was accepted and hope for the best...
No one can really help with this, I am just venting. I have heard from every school and dental student that "they want you to succeed just as much as you want to" but now it seems that the requirements are set in stone and the only way if you fall behind is to make up a whole year. Sigh, oh well....I guess I should just be happy that I was accepted and hope for the best...
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You'll be fine. Relax. Thousands of people would give their left toe just to be where you are right now. I would give up a lot in my life right now just to be where you are. Unfortunately, I'm stuck at an OOS school. Go back and reread some of the posts that someone wrote. The majority are happy with how their education turned out at SA. There's going to be a few people that are going to have to repeat. That happens at every dental school, trust me. Every place has it's problems even if everyone makes it seem like everything is happy and perfect. The horror stories are far and few between for a reason. It's only going to affect some people in the class. A majority of are going to move on and be fine. Be happy that you got into a Texas school and stop worrying. Now's the time you should be having a blast 👍
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You'll be just fine, you're just stressing out a little bit. I'm starting at SA with you this coming summer with a family of my own. And I think if others (I've talked to current students at SA with kids) can get through dental school with kid(s), you'll be just fine. You have everything to gain. The dentist that I worked for, whom also "wrote" my letter of Rec, has Alexia (visual aphasia: inability to perceive written words.), graduated from SA with a family. And in my interveiw at SA I mentioned Dr. Cashion and the faculty there still remember who he is...that should give you at least some indication as to how important the students are to the school.
I called last Friday and someone from the dean's office said that they will be notifying by the end of the month. She didn't want to tell me anything else, like how full the class is, and how many more acceptances they expect to give out. I think they got sick of us calling. 😳
I wonder if it's time to give up and move on?? 🙁
No I dont know any other information either It is nerve wrecking
...BUT i do know that its not time to give up yet!!! because during my interview i talked to some of the D3 and D4 students that received their acceptance letter at the end of January. So if they said that they havent sent any out then there is still hope. As far as no one has heard we are good but I would start worrying if the second round letters are out and i didnt hear anything so please let me know if you hear anything anytime and i will do the same!No I dont know any other information either It is nerve wrecking
Definitely, I'll respond to this thread or PM you or you can PM me if you find out anything! And hopefully we will be hearing good news within the next couple of weeks! 🙂
Definitely, I'll respond to this thread or PM you or you can PM me if you find out anything! And hopefully we will be hearing good news within the next couple of weeks! 🙂
I found out from Ms. Nelda ( academic coordinator at student affair) that they are sending out second round of acceptance letters on January 26th 🙂. I hope this helped you a little because I feel way better now than this morning and lets hope for the best!!
I found out from Ms. Nelda ( academic coordinator at student affair) that they are sending out second round of acceptance letters on January 26th 🙂. I hope this helped you a little because I feel way better now than this morning and lets hope for the best!!
Wow! That's great to hear that I didn't miss the bus! 😀 So does that mean they haven't accepted anyone between December 1st and now?
Yay I feel so much better now! Thank you for keeping me informed of what you find out! Hopefully we will hear something good soon!
SOCR I felt the same way after reading some of the above posts! (so scared stilI) I too have only been accepted here and well as other OOS schools that are much more $$. I knew finding patients was a going to be a problem, but I had no idea that it may result in re doing a whole year!
However, I'm going to try my hardest to stay on track and avoid repeating years. I guess it's good to know about these things before hand so thanks to those who posted!
Any recommendations or advice that will help us find patients? get on the good side with profs?
However, I'm going to try my hardest to stay on track and avoid repeating years. I guess it's good to know about these things before hand so thanks to those who posted!
Any recommendations or advice that will help us find patients? get on the good side with profs?
I've never heard of students paying for patient treatments. I guess I'm in for a few surprises, but why does the cost pass on to students? I've also heard of students paying patients to sit in for the NBDE. Do you mind explaining a little further about this and some of the other things you have encountered or seen there? It doesn't have to all be bad. 🙂
From what I know, you have to schedule certain procedures for your final boards. There are no make-ups for this so if your patient decides not to come, you automatically fail. This is why students sometimes pay their patients a small incentive to actually make their appointment, especially during board exam time.
As for the cost falling to students if patients can't pay, someone has to pay for the procedures and the schools can't afford free treatments for a lot of their students' patients. The requirements must be fulfilled by the students and sometimes its easier to just suck it up and pay for the procedures to be done and cross them off the list of requirements rather then risk having to re-do a year just because your patients couldn't pay.
It really sucks that it is this way because this, i assume, puts a great deal more pressure on students, but I guess it can't all be fun and games!
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So essentially, if one patient gets like $700-800 of dental work done (let's say a couple crowns, fillings, etc), and just doesn't pay, the dental student has to pay that whole sum?
Is this seriously true? If so... this is crazy. I've never heard of a dental school making the dental students pay for their patients' treatment.
It makes for an invaluable lesson for real life...make sure they pay upfront. From what I know, this is true at all dental schools and is an important part of patient management. After all, after you graduate, if you decide to treat someone who doesn't pay, you'll be the one footing the bill.
Also, one of the hardest parts of dental school is getting patients who are able to afford the treatment they need (school clinics don't exactly attract patients that are rolling in bank). So if schools didn't put the financial responsibility on us, we'd be treating everyone for free. Can you imagine what that would cost the school?!? The crown requirement alone = 20 x $500 = $10,000 per student!
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After reading these comments, I've now realized just how there's always two sides to a coin, and the same goes with schools. Personally, I'm not too crazy about being a part of a school, who makes you retake an entire year, just because you don't meet certain requirements. If its your own fault, then sure but if it is a circumstance out of your direct control, then there should be a much simpler solution. As a group (faculty) that pride themselves for being "professionals", it is a very backwards way of running a school. Dental students are investing a great amount of money already, for a school to turn around and tell you, that you have to repeat another year. I understand that for the most part, the experiences are positive, but it doesn't take away the agony that those few have experienced because of these policies. Education is a dynamic experience, it is more than simply fulfilling x-y-z requirements, it is more than marking things off a check list. It is a life altering experience that changes your life, and the lives of those around you. But unfortunately, for a lot of people and organizations that is not true. We have forgotten the intangibles, that sometimes maybe fulfilling a certain "requirement" isn't the most important thing. For heaven's sake, let them complete what they started, give them the chance of demonstrating it!
Yay I feel so much better now! Thank you for keeping me informed of what you find out! Hopefully we will hear something good soon!
hey this is what ms. nelda said "The second round of acceptances will be made on January 26, 2012." so are they deciding today or sending it out today?
or has anyone heard yet?
No, nothing yet. I was just going to ask if you had heard anything. Are they going to email us or call us? Today I will call in to check.
No, nothing yet. I was just going to ask if you had heard anything. Are they going to email us or call us? Today I will call in to check.
They will email us first and then we will get a hard copy of the acceptance letter in the mail. and if you do call please post it on sdn or PM me..
So basically they interview students in december as well as january and then send out letters for both the months? I thought after december 1st they do it for individual month.
Whitening I talked to someone from the Dental Dean's office today, and she said that they are getting ready to send out their second and final round of acceptances this coming week. And they will notify us electronically... crossing my fingers.... Good luck!
good luck guys, hope to see all of you guys in Aguste taking bio chem together. 🙂http://edge.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/crossfingers.gif
That's odd... who did you talk to?
They probably just got tiered of answering the same question over and over again, so they are giving people different answers.
I just checked the facebook page for class 2016 didn't find anything, would you mind posting the URL of the fb page?
