The Pat Sucks

[MrBenny]

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i just thought i'd throw that out there since i'm bored.

besides its a useless section. has absolutely zero correlation with how well you can handle dental school material, and how good of a dentist you will be. utterly stupid.

 

[luder98]

i just thought i'd throw that out there since i'm bored.

besides its a useless section. has absolutely zero correlation with how well you can handle dental school material, and how good of a dentist you will be. utterly stupid.

I disagree. Have you ever tried to do something by looking at its image in the mirror?

 

[HuyetKiem]

i just thought i'd throw that out there since i'm bored.

besides its a useless section. has absolutely zero correlation with how well you can handle dental school material, and how good of a dentist you will be. utterly stupid.

I feel you pain, bro. It is really a useless test. I mean the whole DAT. 👎 👎. It is just the tool for dental school to weed out those overcrowded applicants.

 

[MrBenny]

I disagree. Have you ever tried to do something by looking at its image in the mirror?

yes i have. and i rarely, if ever, cut myself when i shave. 😎

 

[HuyetKiem]

yes i have. and i rarely, if ever, cut myself when i shave. 😎

You deserve a spot in dental school bro. 👍 I got good score on PAT but I have cut myself all the time when shaving

 

[TucsonDDS]

I disagree. Have you ever tried to do something by looking at its image in the mirror?

Yeah, no ****. I always do great with a mirror until I try to think about it and then I have to give up for a minute or so. After a quick break and not thinking my hand goes the right way again.

 

[Tzips]

I disagree. Have you ever tried to do something by looking at its image in the mirror?

just a question - how is the PAT correlated to one's ability to do things by tracking its mirror image? I've done drawings looking only at the mirror and yes, it is dificult (shaving ability aside 😀 ) but what does that have to do with one's ability to judge angles or mentally manipulate objects? myself find the latter very doable and the former almost impossible. 😕

 

[MrBenny]

the PAT is correlated to absolutely nothing, except maybe your ability to do origami. so that's too bad. I was looking forward to decorating my dental office with paper cranes and paper sailboats.

 

[psiyung]

the PAT is correlated to absolutely nothing, except maybe your ability to do origami. so that's too bad. I was looking forward to decorating my dental office with paper cranes and paper sailboats.

It really has nothing to do with dentistry as Luder, against all odds, will find out

 

[joy2dmd]

hmmm, let's see. The PAT....looking at an object or rendition in 2D that represents something in 3D.... I don't think you ever do that in dentistry....do you?

For those really interested, if you take an xray of #30 from the mesial, which root is the distal??? Now you will look at the PAT a little differently next time.

Good luck passing the DAT. For those who do, well done. You may have a chance of joining the profession.

There is no substitute for good grades in college and good old fashioned studying.

 

[HuyetKiem]

For those really interested, if you take an xray of #30 from the mesial, which root is the distal??? Now you will look at the PAT a little differently next time.

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yah.... How did you take an Xray of #30 from the mesial aspect ? New technique ?

 

[HuyetKiem]

For those really interested, if you take an xray of #30 from the mesial, which root is the distal??? Now you will look at the PAT a little differently next time.

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Even you can take an X-ray of #30 from the mesial, you can't see the distal root in majority cases anyway. 😍 😍

 

[MrBenny]

Even you can take an X-ray of #30 from the mesial, you can't see the distal root in majority cases anyway. 😍 😍

ok ok, this thread was meant for fellow PAT haters. most of the pre-dents have no idea what you guys are talking about.. give us another year to become dental geeks.

 

[joy2dmd]

Even you can take an X-ray of #30 from the mesial, you can't see the distal root in majority cases anyway. 😍 😍

What??? I guess you'll have a hard time doing endo if you can't even see the distal root??? You see a distal root on every x ray on #30, come on. You should see a mesial and a distal. It's the difference between the lingual or the buccal canals that this helps. If you take the xray from the mesial aspect a bit more ("open it up") that buccal canal will be the more distal canal. Hense the "MBD" rule that my shadow dentist showed me one time. He showed me an xray and a molar and showed me the 2D vs 3D stuff.

I bring this up becasue I too wondered why the PAT was relevant at all. Come to find out, it is a little more relevant that some might think. But, still the PAT...it was not fun on a couple sections. I don't know of a study that correlates the PAT with success in dental school, but I can see where it could weed out those that are totally clueless. So in an interview, I would prepare a decent response to the question, "What did you think of the PAT section?" I've not been asked this, but it seems like a fun question considering the PAT.

 

[vasco]

I hate the PAT also. What sucks is that UNLV weights the pat just as much as the academic portion of your score. I think that is a major crock.

 

[MrBenny]

I hate the PAT also. What sucks is that UNLV weights the pat just as much as the academic portion of your score. I think that is a major crock.

hear, hear. I am still waiting for someone to explain to me the relevance of cube counting in dentistry.

 

[luder98]

If you hunt for an absolute answer, (just like anything else) I don't think there is one. I used to question about a lot of things. Why do we study this? Why do they teach/test us that? So on and so on...

I have learned that if schools teach/test you something, I'm sure that it will be used in future or they do have a good reason for that. You may not see the benifit clearly, but it is there. For something that has been used for years like DAT, I wouldn't even question about why they test us certain things. Many professors, dentists, researchers already looked into that. I'm sure your concern has been brought up, but they still decide to keep it the way it is. There must be a reason. Some may not see it yet.

 

[Profchaos]

i just thought i'd throw that out there since i'm bored.

besides its a useless section. has absolutely zero correlation with how well you can handle dental school material, and how good of a dentist you will be. utterly stupid.

Go to predental board, there you will find out schools don't care too much about PAT. As long as a score over 17 would be fine, not too hard to do.

 

[joy2dmd]

hear, hear. I am still waiting for someone to explain to me the relevance of cube counting in dentistry.

Ever looked at a panorex xray? Let's see, small objects, stacked or superimposed on each other at times, 2D of a 3D picture, depth perception...

Yea, maybe cubes not found in that panorex, but what about yours 😱 ?