The proof is in the pudding

[YourMD]

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After submitting my pharmcas application and a few secondaries, I decided to discontinue my pursuit of a career in pharmacy due to heavy saturation rumors, and the feeling that pharmacy may become mundane at some point in my career. Lately I've had a plethora of schools contact me in regards to applying to their programs. These are schools that I've never even sent a primary to. I addition a few schools in which i sent a primary and no secondary have also contacted me several times in regards to submitting my secondary application.

**OVERALL POINT OF POST**

From my communications with several pharmacists and the results I've had obtaining pharmacy technician employment as a certified pharmacy tech I sincerely believe the market is super saturated and will only continue to worsen. The fact the schools are pestering me to designate and apply their programs only confirms my beliefs.

**PLAN OF ACTION**

No matter how much you may claim to love pharmacy as Pre-Professional students our ultimate goal is to graduate and secure a healthcare position. If pharmacy can no longer provide this there is no point of embarking on the journey. I urge you to do some research to avoid winding up with a useless doctorate which cost you about a quarter million dollars. I am an ex pre-pharm who has no ulterior motive for making this post, other than to inform students who are now in the position I once found myself in. Goodluck!

 

[ashbash151]

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[KidPharmD]

Because the Pre-Pharms here needed one more post about the oversaturation of the job market.

Are you going back to Pre-Med?

I would have taken invites to apply or reminders about secondary application as compliments of your PharmCAS application or as indications that these schools were not getting enough applicants. I imagine the top schools do not seek out applications - there are enough as it is.

 

[pharmdx92]

I imagine the top schools do not seek out applications - there are enough as it is.

great point.

 

[YourMD]

So what are you planning on pursuing instead?

Medicine. I'm am currently studying my ass of for the MCAT. I will the exam in may, then go on the apply MD and DO.

 

[YourMD]

Because the Pre-Pharms here needed one more post about the oversaturation of the job market.

Are you going back to Pre-Med?

I would have taken invites to apply or reminders about secondary application as compliments of your PharmCAS application or as indications that these schools were not getting enough applicants. I imagine the top schools do not seek out applications - there are enough as it is.

Please be aware that I realize our society NEEDS pharmacists and I encourage those who can not see themselves doing anything besides pharmacy to apply. However, In the one year period where i suspected pharmacy was the right career for me, I was presented with a plethora of information which suggests THE SATURATION IS REAL. I too wanted to believe that as long a I perform to the best of my ability i will land a job, but experience in the field tells me otherwise. The combination of what I have experienced ( posted above), getting a tech certification and having difficulty finding employment, and talking to current pharmacists. I have come to the conclusion that I would be taking a huge gamble pursuing pharmacy. Again, my goal here is simply to inform my colleagues. I still encourage you all to pursue pharmacy if this is TRULY the profession you desire.

 

[dwighthoward]

This is some ****ty ass pudding. SDN pre-pharm forum isn't livejournal.com. This post contributes absolutely nothing to any discussion

 

[pharmdx92]

Medicine. I'm am currently studying my ass of for the MCAT. I will the exam in may, then go on the apply MD and DO.

BUT

GPA 3.15 ( Several Withdrawals on transscript due to medical illness)
Science GPA 3.6
prereq's almost a 3.8
Excellent personal statement
Average recommendations
one summer enrichment program / internship ( Columbia University)
Over 1000 hours volunteer work ( medical settings)
Certified Pharmacy Tech 3 months experience
No pcat may not take it due to heavy class load this upcoming semester.

Not to rain on your parade, but that there is slim to zero chance at any MD schools in the US. Your cGPA is far below any of the averages of even the lowest-tiered schools (check the MSAR).

There is a possibility that you will get interviews and maybe an acceptance to a DO school if you shoot for 32-35+ on the MCATs which is a very difficult (not impossible) feat considering that you only gave yourself a two-month period to study for it.

I look forward towards following your progress into Medical School. Just in case you change your mind again.

source: MD buddies and that I am a lurker in the Pre-Allopathic forums.

 

[vasoolraja]

Please be aware that I realize our society NEEDS pharmacists and I encourage those who can not see themselves doing anything besides pharmacy to apply. However, In the one year period where i suspected pharmacy was the right career for me, I was presented with a plethora of information which suggests THE SATURATION IS REAL. I too wanted to believe that as long a I perform to the best of my ability i will land a job, but experience in the field tells me otherwise. The combination of what I have experienced ( posted above), getting a tech certification and having difficulty finding employment, and talking to current pharmacists. I have come to the conclusion that I would be taking a huge gamble pursuing pharmacy. Again, my goal here is simply to inform my colleagues. I still encourage you all to pursue pharmacy if this is TRULY the profession you desire.

Friend: Please don't feel that I am picking on you. I just want to say my opinion. It is interesting to note that you are pursuing MD because of the saturation in pharmacy and because you think that MD will provide you a secure job. I feel these are not good compelling reasons to become a doctor. If you are really interested and passionate to become a doctor then you should go for it. If fear of joblessness in Pharmacy is what drives you to pursue MD, then the reason is not convincing. Likewise, if you are passionate about pharmacy or any other profession, then you should go for that profession. Do not let fear come in the way when you are making a decision about a career. Pursue what you really like and you 'll be successful in it! Just my 2 cents!

 

[type b pharmD]

Picking a profession based on rumors and fears! Gotta love it.

 

[YourMD]

BUT



Not to rain on your parade, but that there is slim to zero chance at any MD schools in the US. Your cGPA is far below any of the averages of even the lowest-tiered schools (check the MSAR).

There is a possibility that you will get interviews and maybe an acceptance to a DO school if you shoot for 32-35+ on the MCATs which is a very difficult (not impossible) feat considering that you only gave yourself a two-month period to study for it.

I look forward towards following your progress into Medical School. Just in case you change your mind again.

source: MD buddies and that I am a lurker in the Pre-Allopathic forums.

I'm glad you did your research and found my stats! As I would have you know there is ALOT more to my story than the GPA's that are presented. When I began college I was entirely unfocused. As a result I have 2-3 semesters of F's and D's (none of these classes are pre-req's) After flunking out of school I returned, only this time I'd learned from the past and a new fire was lit under my arsh. I now have A's in every single pre-req class including labs (orgo 1 B+) and have done tremendously well in all upper level sciences. My first two semesters are dragging my GPA down. Currently I'm retaking the courses I failed and my projected GPA upon submitting my APP in June is a 3.5 both Science and cumulative. Adcoms will notice my drastic upward trend and will not hesitate to send me an ii as evidenced with my PHARMCAS experience this cycle. Again great job with your research, unfortunately I cannot say the same with the post I will address below.

P.S: ALL D.O schools acknowledge grade forgiveness and the gpa that is presented to the ADCOM doesn't calculate your first attempt at a retaken course. Just an FYI for those on the fence.

Friend: Please don't feel that I am picking on you. I just want to say my opinion. It is interesting to note that you are pursuing MD because of the saturation in pharmacy and because you think that MD will provide you a secure job. I feel these are not good compelling reasons to become a doctor. If you are really interested and passionate to become a doctor then you should go for it. If fear of joblessness in Pharmacy is what drives you to pursue MD, then the reason is not convincing. Likewise, if you are passionate about pharmacy or any other profession, then you should go for that profession. Do not let fear come in the way when you are making a decision about a career. Pursue what you really like and you 'll be successful in it! Just my 2 cents!

Picking a profession based on rumors and fears! Gotta love it.

Just a simple glance at my handle will show you that I've been a pre-med student since I began college. Pursuing a career in medicine has been a life long dream, with that I had never looked into other healthcare professions. With advice from mentors and colleagues to "BE ABSOLUTELTY SURE I CANNOT SEE MY DOING ANYTHING BESIDES MEDICINE" I decided to looked into pharmacy. I did a pretty good job of thoroughly exploring the profession and even managed to become a certified pharm tech in the process. This process amongst other things confirmed medicine is the only profession for me. Of course if you two did just a little research on my posting history you would know this. Next time contribute to the topic and DO NOT attempt to derail and good thread. Thanks and goodluck!

 

[dwighthoward]

Adcoms will notice my drastic upward trend and will not hesitate to send me an ii as evidenced with my PHARMCAS experience this cycle. Again great job with your research, unfortunately I cannot say the same with the post I will address below.

P.S: ALL D.O schools acknowledge grade forgiveness and the gpa that is presented to the ADCOM doesn't calculate your first attempt at a retaken course. Just an FYI for those on the fence.


Just a simple glance at my handle will show you that I've been a pre-med student since I began college. Pursuing a career in medicine has been a life long dream, with that I had never looked into other healthcare professions. With advice from mentors and colleagues to "BE ABSOLUTELTY SURE I CANNOT SEE MY DOING ANYTHING BESIDES MEDICINE" I decided to looked into pharmacy. I did a pretty good job of thoroughly exploring the profession and even managed to become a certified pharm tech in the process. This process amongst other things confirmed medicine is the only profession for me. Of course if you two did just a little research on my posting history you would know this. Next time contribute to the topic and DO NOT attempt to derail and good thread. Thanks and goodluck!

The pharmacy application and MD/DO application are completely different. MD/DO schools usually do a large cut of applicants after the primary application. Pharmacy schools typically don't have secondaries; they have supplemental applications. To my understanding, no one is cut after submitting PharmCAS. I applied this cycle as well, and I've received ABSOLUTELY no junk mail from other schools seeking my application. PharmCAS does however send reminder emails about closing deadlines, which is a completely different thing.

It's not difficult to get certified to be a pharm tech BTW. The test was so easy, I could have done it while I was still in high school. But if that's what convinced you that medicine is the only profession for you, alright.

6/10 troll, try again next time

 

[vasoolraja]

I'm glad you did your research and found my stats! As I would have you know there is ALOT more to my story than the GPA's that are presented. When I began college I was entirely unfocused. As a result I have 2-3 semesters of F's and D's (none of these classes are pre-req's) After flunking out of school I returned, only this time I'd learned from the past and a new fire was lit under my arsh. I now have A's in every single pre-req class including labs (orgo 1 B+) and have done tremendously well in all upper level sciences. My first two semesters are dragging my GPA down. Currently I'm retaking the courses I failed and my projected GPA upon submitting my APP in June is a 3.5 both Science and cumulative. Adcoms will notice my drastic upward trend and will not hesitate to send me an ii as evidenced with my PHARMCAS experience this cycle. Again great job with your research, unfortunately I cannot say the same with the post I will address below.

P.S: ALL D.O schools acknowledge grade forgiveness and the gpa that is presented to the ADCOM doesn't calculate your first attempt at a retaken course. Just an FYI for those on the fence.






Just a simple glance at my handle will show you that I've been a pre-med student since I began college. Pursuing a career in medicine has been a life long dream, with that I had never looked into other healthcare professions. With advice from mentors and colleagues to "BE ABSOLUTELTY SURE I CANNOT SEE MY DOING ANYTHING BESIDES MEDICINE" I decided to looked into pharmacy. I did a pretty good job of thoroughly exploring the profession and even managed to become a certified pharm tech in the process. This process amongst other things confirmed medicine is the only profession for me. Of course if you two did just a little research on my posting history you would know this. Next time contribute to the topic and DO NOT attempt to derail and good thread. Thanks and goodluck!

I would like to know if your purpose was to explore the pharmacy career to find out if MD is the best fit for you, why then you have made a statement "I urge you to do some research to avoid winding up with a useless doctorate which cost you about a quarter million dollars."?

 

[dwighthoward]

I would like to know if your purpose was to explore the pharmacy career to find out if MD is the best fit for you, why then you have made a statement "I urge you to do some research to avoid winding up with a useless doctorate which cost you about a quarter million dollars."?

He's just a troll, no more feeding the troll. This thread should be deleted if anything, it's beyond pointless

 

[pharmdx92]

I'm glad you did your research and found my stats! As I would have you know there is ALOT more to my story than the GPA's that are presented. When I began college I was entirely unfocused. As a result I have 2-3 semesters of F's and D's (none of these classes are pre-req's) After flunking out of school I returned, only this time I'd learned from the past and a new fire was lit under my arsh. Adcoms will notice my drastic upward trend and will not hesitate to send me an ii as evidenced with my PHARMCAS experience this cycle.

Of course. Everyone who applies has their own "unique" story of adversity. I am merely presenting the fact that your GPA is not strong enough for MD schools and is barely scraping the barrel of GPA averages in the top 20 pharmacy programs in the nation.

 

[pharmdx92]

He's just a troll, no more feeding the troll. This thread should be deleted if anything, it's beyond pointless

okay that was my last one then 😛

 

[YourMD]

The pharmacy application and MD/DO application are completely different. MD/DO schools usually do a large cut of applicants after the primary application. Pharmacy schools typically don't have secondaries; they have supplemental applications. To my understanding, no one is cut after submitting PharmCAS. I applied this cycle as well, and I've received ABSOLUTELY no junk mail from other schools seeking my application. PharmCAS does however send reminder emails about closing deadlines, which is a completely different thing.

It's not difficult to get certified to be a pharm tech BTW. The test was so easy, I could have done it while I was still in high school. But if that's what convinced you that medicine is the only profession for you, alright.

6/10 troll, try again next time

You obviously have trouble comprehending the information I've previously posted. In addition to completing the exam I also had to complete 500 hours of on the job training to get my tech license(florida state law). If it were so "easy" why don't you have one? Also why do less than 50% of pharmacy school applicants have the license? I will not bother restating what also confirmed my desire to pursue medicine. I suggest you enhance your comprehending skills before apply to ANY professional program. I did not receive "junk mail" from pharmacy schools either. Again thoroughly read my posts above if you would like to contribute anything meaningful to this thread. Thanks and Goodluck!

 

[Misaenator]

Take it easy guys. There're no need to tear the OP's aspiring career of choice apart. Hey its his/her life at the end of the day. Its good that she/he becomes concerned and what's not. But we all have a reason to do what we do, don't we? There's no need to put anybody on the spot or not, its just another person pov abt pharmacy profession. We should be a better person and give the OP constructive cristisms rather than belittling him/her. Thats it, I put down my 2 cents to spare.

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[YourMD]

I would like to know if your purpose was to explore the pharmacy career to find out if MD is the best fit for you, why then you have made a statement "I urge you to do some research to avoid winding up with a useless doctorate which cost you about a quarter million dollars."?

The question you have asked and the quote you posted have absolutely no correlation. Please try again. Thank you!

 

[YourMD]

Of course. Everyone who applies has their own "unique" story of adversity. I am merely presenting the fact that your GPA is not strong enough for MD schools and is barely scraping the barrel of GPA averages in the top 20 pharmacy programs in the nation.

Please refrain from making claims you know nothing about. I have completed several undergraduate medical summer enrichment and research programs. With these experiences I've had the pleasure of getting to know several ADCOM members on a personal level. Besides the initial screening process they look for a strong upward trend in GPA which I've stated i do possess. Hell i would have close to a 4.0 have it not been for 2 semesters of abysmal grades. You also must have overlooked my statement that after this semester my GPA is projected to shoot up to a 3.5.

 

[dwighthoward]

You obviously have trouble comprehending the information I've previously posted. In addition to completing the exam I also had to complete 500 hours of on the job training to get my tech license(florida state law). If it were so "easy" why don't you have one? Also why do less than 50% of pharmacy school applicants have the license? I will not bother restating what also confirmed my desire to pursue medicine. I suggest you enhance your comprehending skills before apply to ANY professional program. I did not receive "junk mail" from pharmacy schools either. Again thoroughly read my posts above if you would like to contribute anything meaningful to this thread. Thanks and Goodluck!

I do have one

 

[dwighthoward]

Please refrain from making claims you know nothing about. I have completed several undergraduate medical summer enrichment and research programs. With these experiences I've had the pleasure of getting to know several ADCOM members on a personal level. Besides the initial screening process they look for a strong upward trend in GPA which I've stated i do possess. Hell i would have close to a 4.0 have it not been for 2 semesters of abysmal grades. You also must have overlooked my statement that after this semester my GPA is projected to shoot up to a 3.5.

We would all have 4.0's if it weren't for that one thing there

 

[YourMD]

Take it easy guys. There're no need to tear the OP's aspiring career of choice apart. Hey its his/her life at the end of the day. Its good that she/he becomes concerned and what's not. But we all have a reason to do what we do, don't we? There's no need to put anybody on the spot or not, its just another person pov abt pharmacy profession. We should be a better person and give the OP constructive cristisms rather than belittling him/her. Thats it, I put down my 2 cents to spare.

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Thanks for being reasonable and compassionate! I think everyone is forgetting the main purpose of my post. This was simply to inform Pre-pharm students from a fellow Pre-professional students perspective. I have gained tremendous knowledge in this field over that past few years and I simply want to share that information with my fellow SDN'ers. Believe me whether you choose to pursue Pharmacy or Custodial work your choice will not affect me. Again, My above post are extremely informative and food for thought for anyone thinking of pursuing this field. Thanks again!

 

[Misaenator]

@YourMD Only one thing i want to say: Good Luck with your future endeavors and your journey studying medicine. Wish you the best of luck, and do well on your MCAT!!!

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[dwighthoward]

Thanks for being reasonable and compassionate! I think everyone is forgetting the main purpose of my post. This was simply to inform Pre-pharm students from a fellow Pre-professional students perspective. I have gained tremendous knowledge in this field over that past few years and I simply want to share that information with my fellow SDN'ers. Believe me whether you choose to pursue Pharmacy or Custodial work your choice will not affect me. Again, My above post are extremely informative and food for thought for anyone thinking of pursuing this field. Thanks again!

Use the search function before posting, you're not the first person to have this "revelation"

 

[YourMD]

We would all have 4.0's if it weren't for that one thing there

I highly doubt that! I have A's in all of the pre-req's I can almost gaurantee you do not and the majority of pharmacy applicants do not either. Please do not treat me like I'm new to these forums. Although we are all over achievers I know that the vast majority of us have severe blemishes in our academic history. What sets me apart is that my blemishes all came during a period when I had no desire to to well academically. Once i decided to pursue medicine and come back to school I've been a Rock Star academically.

 

[Misaenator]

Did this thread just become a war zone btwn Pharmacy and Medicine? I really hope not.

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[YourMD]

Use the search function before posting, you're not the first person to have this "revelation"

Thank you for confirming my point. Since I am not the only one the have this "revelation" at some point, an educated individual like yourself should take a step back and listen. Don't be so defensive. I am not degrading pharmacy as a profession. The conditions surrounding employment at this time are not ideal. Think about it!

 

[YourMD]

Did this thread just become a war zone btwn Pharmacy and Medicine? I really hope not.

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Not at all! Western medicine would not exist without the Pharmaceutical philosophy and pharmacy could not exist without medicine.

 

[dwighthoward]

Thank you for confirming my point. Since I am not the only one the have this "revelation" at some point, an educated individual like yourself should take a step back and listen. Don't be so defensive. I am not degrading pharmacy as a profession. The conditions surrounding employment at this time are not ideal. Think about it!

K.

 

[Misaenator]

When there's a will, there will be a way. If you want to pursue medicine, kudo to you. Its gonna be a long and lot of sacrifice journey. I give ppl prop for that.

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[dwighthoward]

I highly doubt that! I have A's in all of the pre-req's I can almost gaurantee you do not and the majority of pharmacy applicants do not either. Please do not treat me like I'm new to these forums. Although we are all over achievers I know that the vast majority of us have severe blemishes in our academic history. What sets me apart is that my blemishes all came during a period when I had no desire to to well academically. Once i decided to pursue medicine and come back to school I've been a Rock Star academically.

" I can almost gaurantee you do not and the majority of pharmacy applicants do not either."

lol. No one's saying Pharmacy is a better career than Medicine or Medicine is a better career than Pharmacy. But just reread what you wrote, and tell me you don't sound like an dingus

because that's what you sound like, an dingus.

 

[dwighthoward]

I wish I cared about this forum enough to learn the quote formatting, but it's just honestly cosmically funny how you say:

"I am not degrading pharmacy as a profession."

and say:

"I have A's in all of the pre-req's I can almost gaurantee you do not and the majority of pharmacy applicants do not either."

 

[YourMD]

" I can almost gaurantee you do not and the majority of pharmacy applicants do not either."

lol. No one's saying Pharmacy is a better career than Medicine or Medicine is a better career than Pharmacy. But just reread what you wrote, and tell me you don't sound like an dingus

because that's what you sound like, an dingus.

If you are doubting that statement simply go to pharmcas and you'll see the average stats for pharmacy students is between 3.2-3.5 There is no way most students have flawless pre-req gpa's with those averages. Again, the proof is in the pudding.

 

[dwighthoward]

If you are doubting that statement simply go to pharmcas and you'll see the average stats for pharmacy students is between 3.2-3.5 There is no way most students have flawless pre-req gpa's with those averages. Again, the proof is in the pudding.

You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say I doubted you, but that really tells you nothing else about how I feel. If you want to go do medicine, then fine. But you better believe that bedside manner is a real thing.

 

[YourMD]

I wish I cared about this forum enough to learn the quote formatting, but it's just honestly cosmically funny how you say:

"I am not degrading pharmacy as a profession."

and then immediately afterwards say:

"I have A's in all of the pre-req's I can almost gaurantee you do not and the majority of pharmacy applicants do not either."

These are fact's I can't make this stuff up. There is no correlation between merely stating application cycle facts and degrading a profession. You seriously need to work on reading comprehension and critical analysis. Seriously!

 

[dwighthoward]

These are fact's I can't make this stuff up. There is no correlation between merely stating application cycle facts and degrading a profession. You seriously need to work on reading comprehension and critical analysis. Seriously!

So the fact that you assume you have better grades than I do because I'm going to pharmacy school isn't a sweeping generalization about prepharms and isn't degrading?

 

[YourMD]

You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say I doubted you, but that really tells you nothing else about how I feel. If you want to go do medicine, then fine. But you better believe that bedside manner is a real thing.

Wow! Again critically analyzing what you read is a very important skill. I began that statement with "IF you are" implying that I'm not quite sure what your intention is by posting LOL. If you want to make a point please be more thorough.

 

[dwighthoward]

Wow! Again critically analyzing what you read is a very important skill. I began that statement with "IF you are" implying that I'm not quite sure what your intention is by posting LOL. If you want to make a point please be more thorough.

I'll be the bigger man and walk away from this. It's all in the pudding like you said, anyone that reads any of your posts on this thread should get a good chuckle.

Good luck with your applications.

Odds are you'll reply with a backhanded compliment.

 

[YourMD]

Please, I'm not that predictable! Best of luck in your endeavors.

 

[Silent Cool]

I'm glad you did your research and found my stats! As I would have you know there is ALOT more to my story than the GPA's that are presented. When I began college I was entirely unfocused. As a result I have 2-3 semesters of F's and D's (none of these classes are pre-req's) After flunking out of school I returned, only this time I'd learned from the past and a new fire was lit under my arsh. I now have A's in every single pre-req class including labs (orgo 1 B+) and have done tremendously well in all upper level sciences. My first two semesters are dragging my GPA down. Currently I'm retaking the courses I failed and my projected GPA upon submitting my APP in June is a 3.5 both Science and cumulative. Adcoms will notice my drastic upward trend and will not hesitate to send me an ii as evidenced with my PHARMCAS experience this cycle. Again great job with your research, unfortunately I cannot say the same with the post I will address below.

P.S: ALL D.O schools acknowledge grade forgiveness and the gpa that is presented to the ADCOM doesn't calculate your first attempt at a retaken course. Just an FYI for those on the fence.






Just a simple glance at my handle will show you that I've been a pre-med student since I began college. Pursuing a career in medicine has been a life long dream, with that I had never looked into other healthcare professions. With advice from mentors and colleagues to "BE ABSOLUTELTY SURE I CANNOT SEE MY DOING ANYTHING BESIDES MEDICINE" I decided to looked into pharmacy. I did a pretty good job of thoroughly exploring the profession and even managed to become a certified pharm tech in the process. This process amongst other things confirmed medicine is the only profession for me. Of course if you two did just a little research on my posting history you would know this. Next time contribute to the topic and DO NOT attempt to derail and good thread. Thanks and goodluck!

You're fine for DO. Just apply early. As for MD, well, that's a crapshoot for anyone.

good luck. I agree re: saturation.

 

[Waffle Houzen]

 

[GrapeGatsby]

I appreciate your discovery, but it's something that's been pretty well known by now for anyone that reads this forum. So if everyone could stop taking turns beating the dead horse that would make this forum significantly better. Biggest circle jerk I've ever seen and I thought reddit was bad.

 

[Jibby321]

If you are doubting that statement simply go to pharmcas and you'll see the average stats for pharmacy students is between 3.2-3.5 There is no way most students have flawless pre-req gpa's with those averages. Again, the proof is in the pudding.

I had 4.0 science pre req gpa and 3.8 cum before starting pharmacy school. 🙂

Depending on what school you look at its not that uncommon.

 

[Waffle Houzen]

If you are doubting that statement simply go to pharmcas and you'll see the average stats for pharmacy students is between 3.2-3.5 There is no way most students have flawless pre-req gpa's with those averages. Again, the proof is in the pudding.

 

[pharmdx92]

Take it easy guys. There're no need to tear the OP's aspiring career of choice apart. Hey its his/her life at the end of the day. Its good that she/he becomes concerned and what's not. But we all have a reason to do what we do, don't we? There's no need to put anybody on the spot or not, its just another person pov abt pharmacy profession. We should be a better person and give the OP constructive cristisms rather than belittling him/her. Thats it, I put down my 2 cents to spare.

I urge you to do some research to avoid winding up with a useless doctorate which cost you about a quarter million dollars.

I accept the future of the occupation may be a little grim and I could care less what OP chooses to pursue with his life. It was when he had the behind-the-key board courage to call PharmD a useless doctorate solely on the basis of saturation that frustrated me.



OP. Your cGPA is a 3.15 and even with grade forgiveness that will bring it up to a 3.5, will Med School AdComs look positively on 2-3 semesters of straight D's-F's? I don't believe you understand that the DO policy to replace grades is only meant for a very small amount of courses. Would you mind listing the schools that you were accepted too if you have such close ties with the admission committee according to you?

 

[Misaenator]

I accept the future of the occupation may be a little grim and I could care less what OP chooses to pursue with his life. It was when he had the behind-the-key board courage to call PharmD a useless doctorate solely on the basis of saturation that frustrated me.

I totally agree with you on that. Thats why we need to educate people to become more professional when start talking abt other professions, in this case Pharmacy. As long as everybody keeps it professional, and don't bad mouth/belittle other professions, I don't see there's anything wrong with voicing the concerns. Hey last time I check, things are not the same all across the board. Again, where there's a will, there will be a way. Everybody has a right to their opinions, but that doesn't mean we, as Pharmacy Students/pharmacists have to dignify those opinions. If those individuals decide Pharmacy is not their cup of tea, alrighty then. Keep it calm and move on.




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[pharmdx92]

I totally agree with you on that. Thats why we need to educate people to become more professional when start talking abt other professions, in this case Pharmacy. As long as everybody keeps it professional, and don't bad mouth/belittle other professions, I don't see there's anything wrong with voicing the concerns. Hey last time I check, things are not the same all across the board. Again, where there's a will, there will be a way. Everybody has a right to their opinions, but that doesn't mean we, as Pharmacy Students/pharmacists have to dignify those opinions. If those individuals decide Pharmacy is not their cup of tea, alrighty then. Keep it calm and move on.

Fine. You're a convincing man while I watch my Saturday morning cartoons.

 

[Misaenator]

Fine. You're a convincing man while I watch my Saturday morning cartoons.

Tom & Jerry?

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[dwighthoward]

I totally agree with you on that. Thats why we need to educate people to become more professional when start talking abt other professions, in this case Pharmacy. As long as everybody keeps it professional, and don't bad mouth/belittle other professions, I don't see there's anything wrong with voicing the concerns. Hey last time I check, things are not the same all across the board. Again, where there's a will, there will be a way. Everybody has a right to their opinions, but that doesn't mean we, as Pharmacy Students/pharmacists have to dignify those opinions. If those individuals decide Pharmacy is not their cup of tea, alrighty then. Keep it calm and move on.

Did you miss the part where he said there was no way I had better grades than he did? Without even considering the fact that he has no idea about anything about me? He's a troll, his opinions are meaningless, they're full of overgeneralizations with no actual evidence for support of his arguments.