The Under M1 Club: Come on in! part 01

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2badr - I know how much you want to get going on this next step of the journey (MCAT and applying), but don't try to matriculate without a bachelor degree. While schools "say" you only need 90 credits I can almost guarantee you won't get a single acceptance until you state that you are graduating on such and such date, and they receive confirmation of that fact. When we're all appying and getting accepted places they are assuming we're going to finish our last semesters and get that degree. If we don't they can and almost definitely will revoke the acceptance. I don't know of any school that has accepted someone without a degree in years (if ever), but you'd have to have an extra-extraordinary app to make it...

Having said that, there is no reason why you can't take the MCAT next year, graduate at your leisure, and work somewhere in the meantime while waiting for the 2006 application cycle (applying 2005) if you feel ready to do it.


Biodude - Don't worry I'm not overloading. Except for this weekend (and possibly next) I won't be working so I'll have plenty of time to do other stuff and my schoolwork. Both biopsych and calc will be summer-long classes, and comp. rel. only last til the end of the month. While this month may not be the most fun I've ever had, it's still manageable. And I intend to read all the way up to work (while my bf drives hehe). I also only have about another 15 pages to catch up to what I need to read for Monday's class so I'm really not that far behind lol.

Anyway have a good weekend everyone!

Good luck!
--Jessica, UCCS
 
Hey minx... I would try the old-fashioned research methods. Pick up the phonebook or go visit the nearest hospital. It seems like Europe isn't too into websites and such, so you might just drive yourself insane. That's what o-chem is for...

The rest of ya'll sound pretty busy. So many classes! Good luck to all. Oh, I found this cool thing where med students rank their own med schools. Well, they comment on them. 😛
http://www.amsa.org/resource/cardev/medresults.cfm

How would I find out which med schools have good pediatric or neuroscience programs? I feel like I need to research med schools, but, uh, I'm not sure what to look for. University of Washington and Oregon Health Sciences and most of the Cali schools look pretty good... but I'm not real familiar w/ the west coast.
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Okiee-dokiee...two posts in a row...

well, I read minx's post and I read 2badr's post...

2badr - so you'd like to get into medical school a bit earlier than the rest of us? 😀 Anyways, that's pretty awesome that your school's got that affiliation :clap: And the "walls" that you keep running into...I think that all pre-meds run into walls at some point...difficulty in finding volunteering, or research, or difficulty in getting out of the 2 point hole GPA 😀 , or difficulty in registering for classes, or difficulty in setting the right schedules, or difficulty in getting financial aid or a part-time job to help pay for school...

Yep, pre-med is very difficult! 😀

But you've got to perservere! You wanted to become a doctor for a reason, and it takes a very special person to want to become a physician...especially with the grueling training, the length of training, the malpractice situation in the U.S. at this point, etc.

Yeah, 90 semester units is pretty much the minimum required for medical school. Be sure to complete around that much, at least.

minx - hmm, didn't look at it that way on the comprehensive review books...hehehe, well, that's google for ya when doing web searches +pissed+

By the way, good luck minx, on whatever you'll be doing! 🙂

2badr has brought up a topic on applying. I just remembered that at one of my school's pre-health club meetings last semester, I was given a sheet of paper discussing the timeline of applying to health professional schools such as medicine, dentistry, pharmacy, optometry, etc. If anybody's interested, I'll hand over a typed copy verbatim from the paper after you PM me. This applies mainly to those getting ready to apply. So PM away!

Now back to my reading!
 
Seems like every time I post today other peoples' posts pop-up that I can help out on :laugh: 😀

washkeep, here is the list of all allopathic schools (MD-granting) on the west coast:

Public:

University of Washington
Oregan Health Sciences University
UCSF - Located in San Franciso
UCD - Located in Davis
UCLA - Located in Los Angeles
UCI - Located in Irvine (though the medical center is closer to my house)
UCSD - Located in La Jolla (close to San Diego)

Private:

Stanford
USC
Loma Linda

here are the Osteopathic (DO-granting) schools on the west coast:

Touro University College of Osteopathic Medicine
Western University/College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific

Well, dude, I'm not gonna lie to you. The UC's are extremely difficult to get into, even for the CA residents like me. If you're out-of-state and want to get into the UC's, you have to be quite exceptional...of course, you won't know if they will let you in until you try, right? UC San Francisco seems to be quite receptive of non-traditional people. I've heard that UCI's got a good neuroscience program, but as for pediatrics, I'm not quite sure. Stanford's got good research, and is a "prestigious" school, obviously. As for University of Washington, they don't even consider applications from states other than Washington and some of the surrounding states who don't have medical schools (such as Alaska). Oregan Health Sciences University accepts a larger portion of out-of-state people than you might expect. As for USC, I've heard good and I've heard bad. I'll be checking out the campus over the summer and I'll give my opinion on it later.

As for Loma Linda, they are a religiously-affiliated institution. They prefer Seventh-Day Adventists, but they will consider people who worship other religions. From what I've seen of their cirriculum (a professor from the school was nice enough to come share info with my pre-health professions club), it's different from the regular medical cirriculum. It actually requires religion courses in addition to the science-based and clinical-based courses required at all medical schools.

I hope this has helped.
 
Thanks again guys!!
I agree skaterbabe, which is why it's just an option. I see your point tho and feel you are right. I am definitely going to research before making the plunge too early. I like the last option you mentioned. 🙂
Biodude- yeah I think I am just getting frustrated and want to get this over with (applicatio and MCAT, etc.). It has taken so long because before I started I made mistakes that I could have avoided had I know more about this process. I am trying to be as well-informed as possible, that's all. I know I would rather take my time and do it right the first time than rush thru it and have to re-do everything!
minx, I just realized you are from Madrid. 🙄
Hmmmm I'm feeling better now. 😀
 
Originally posted by 2badr
they simply said "you need 90 or more credit hours".

And does anyone know where agent is???? 😕

I think that's what most schools "say" and oh if it were likely to get in with only 90 hours, there'd be a lot of happy undergrads. :laugh:

I don't know about the schools in your area, but my bro graduated from U of MS in 2001 - There policy is the same, but according to him if you apply without completing a BS before entering they won't give your app a second look.

I got into the radiologic tech program I applied for - whoop-de-doo I know nobody's impressed, but I was pretty proud of myself since they have 250 people apply and only accepted 25. I'm not going to go to that program, though, since I can't quit my full-time job.. I'll just keep slugging away at night/online... I've got to make some progress eventually, right? :laugh:

I don't know where Agent is, I PM'd him but haven't heard back. Hope he's alright!
 
Thanks for keeping me in check guys. 😀 . I will not apply without the degree.
Manna, don't sell yourself short. It's good you were accepted with all of those applicants vying for the same 25 spots!
I will pm agent too.
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Thanks 2B! 🙂

And since I haven't nothing better to do I'll now post some more useless dribble! :laugh:

I'm loving micro... only problem is I'm not so good with the microscope. Definately going to have to work on that! 🙂

Comp II is proving to be a pain.. it's been a while since I had Comp I and I've forgotten alot about MLA style, etc. 🙁

6 weeks to go!
 
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Hey all, noticed there weren't any new posts since yesterday, and I thought that I would drop by to bump this thread up.

So, here's what's been goin' on with me:

World History readings (about 60 pages from the primary text and 40 from the 2nd text 😛 )

American Studies readings (about 6 chapters and doing the study questions - not fun 😡 )

I decided to take a break because the readings are overwhelming...that's something to remember the next time I decide to take a summer course...insane amount of reading textbooks to get done with! At least the exams are easier than a regular semester...not sure if the amount of reading required is worth it, though.

My first exam in History is Tuesday and my mid-term for American Studies is the Thursday after next (gives you an idea about how fast summer courses can be, doesn't it? 😱 )

I wish that I could be taking science again...that'd be cool.

As for non-academic related issues, my exercise plan backfired on me and now I've got sore and aching joints, hehe :laugh:

I've PM'ed agent as well...I have a feeling he'll be getting quite a large amount of private messages to sift through when he comes back (if he comes back 😕 )

2badr - That's cool...definitely don't apply without the degree :clap: At least you'd have something to fall back on if things don't go your way after the first application run, right?

manna - Hey manna, I'm not so great with the microscope myself 😀 I don't think I'll be taking Microbio though...I like your perserverence, though. Keep it up, and I'm sure that things will improve sometime later on.

Please excuse my stupidity here, but what does "6 weeks to go" refer to?


Well, now that I'm a bit more educated on what a hospital assistant is meant to do, I can see that I could be a scrub tech, a nurse assistant, an ER tech, or, well, an assistant in the other departments mentioned for the ROP course (Radiology, Physical Therapy, Dietary, and Central Supply). Of course, I think that I may go to work as an ER tech. That job seems pretty fascinating to me (not that I plan on bein' an EM physician, and I don't want to become one at this point, but the chaos of the ER will certainly keep it from being a boring job 😎 ).

I'll try signing up for the ROP course on Thursday (the first people can go register), and I do hope that I can get in 🙂
 
hi all... i'll be a juinor in fall but i'm already freaking out and feeling like i have no time left to prepare for med and that i've wasted these past 2 years with no sig activities or med experiences...sigh.... anyhow next semester, i'm taking ..

molecular bio and biochem
sensation and perception (psych)
abnormal psych
intro to cancer
hebrew 131

and i'll be doin 3 credits of research in a lab... my first sci research ever and altho it won't really count for anything, it'll give me experience and be helpful for my research thesis senior year....

i'm a double genetics and psych major...

anyone takin similar classes or have taken mbb? should i be very scared? 😕
 
Whew. One final down, three to go!

I had biochem this afternoon. I think it went pretty well. I didnt leave anything blank, but a few I only knew how to start but not how to finish (its all about the partial credit!!). I think my studying really paid off because some of the questions on there I distinctly remembering paying special attention to in my review, so I am proud of myself!!

Here's the rest of my schedule:
Monday - Physics at 1030 am
Wednesday - English at 8 am
Thursday - Neurobio at 1030 am

This final has definitely put me in a good mood for studying for the rest. Almost there....

Rugirlie: I think biochem was challenging but way more interesting than organic chem. It shouldnt be a problem. Once you know your amino acids, you're good to go.

P.S. Thanks for the encouraging messages on my AIM Biodude!!! They certainly helped.
 
I wonder if I'm ever going to get caught up on all of my readings...now I know how Skaterbabe74 must feel! 😀 In any case, World History takes importance over American Studies because of the upcoming exam, so I'll definitely be caught up with that.

rugirlie - Welcome to the Under M1 Club! I hope that we will prove helpful to you in our endeavors to help eachother out with this process. 🙂

Now, as for what I think that you should do in your situation (keep in mind that I'm not a junior yet, but I've received advice from upper-classmen here 😉 ):

If you need to do a research thesis your senior year then I don't think that you'd need to worry too much about your research experience...as for medical/volunteer experiences, it's really QUALITY that matters, not QUANTITY...funny I should say that after ranting about the hours that I don't spend volunteering...

Oh yeah, and as for the lack of activities, you could explain that it was necessary in order to study and do well in your classes. I know that my pre-med advisor and my primary care doctor said that I should save the volunteering 'til the summer time in order to maintain a good GPA...and it's never too late to start getting significant volunteer experiences. If you feel by the time you graduate that you need more, well, take some time off to do so before you apply.

As for classes, I think that you'd be better off asking more experienced people like BallerinaTina16. But your schedule looks pretty balanced (assuming that the Psych courses won't be as hard as the science courses, that is).

BallerinaTina16 - Awesome :clap: I know what ya mean about how it's all about the partial credit. That's sort of why I like essay tests while multiple choice is just right or wrong. You're very welcome for the encouragement. I know I'd be burned-out by now if I still had finals to study for, so encouragement is always good. As for the rest of your finals, well, you are confident from the first one, which is good. Hopefully it will extend to all others that you will take.


Now to go back to trying to catch up on my readings. I swear, history is so boring (no offense meant to history majors - it's just not my cup of tea). It's going to take me a few more hours to study for the exam coming up...plus I only managed to squeeze in the first 2 to 3 pages of American Studies 😀
 
Bio dude,I love World history! (yes I'm a nerd) how's it going in the class so far? Good luck on your exam. BTW in your cali med school list you forgot to include the drew program at UCLA; you apply to it seperately from ucla so technically it's another program to apply to.


PS anyone considering applying to a summer program next summer?
 
Daily update:

Nothing new. I thought that I might respond again before going back to my readings (I'm so glad that I have all this time to catch up on them, but they're pretty darn boring).

On Thursday I'll be making a mad dash to sign up for the ROP course...hopefully they'll have enough spots to accomodate an adult student (high school students have priority over adults).

Valinor - right, I forgot about Drew...that's a pretty tough school to get into. I think that they only have like 28 spots if I'm not mistaken, and the school is meant for URM's from underserved areas, or rather those URM's are willing to practice in underserved areas. I've been to the Drew/King medical center, which is like right across the street from Drew medical school, and I did make comments here about my experiences. The neighborhood there looks pretty bad.

As for World History, I guess I'd say that it's pretty boring but pretty easy as well. The exam will be all multiple choice, so the professor ain't gonna ask any super-difficult and really cerebral questions. I'm just doing my readings because there will be things on the test from the textbook that the professor didn't cover in lecture (the info from lecture covers about 80% of the test...but a B grade for this class ain't good enough for me).

As for summer programs, I'll see if I can get into one next summer. I might and I might not, but oh well. What about you? Are you considering it, Valinor?

Cozmosis - A & P or Physics, eh? Hopefully they'll open up, dude.

Back to the readings I go, I guess, unless I start seeing new posts pop up on the thread.
 
2badr- I thonk i will follow your advice but the phonebook bit,because the dropping to the nearest hospital does not work in spain you can just drop by and say hey you need a hand,no doesn't that way.... thanks veryverymuch for your advice.🙂

washkeep -interesting link , niceeeeeee. i 'm investigating.
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I'Ll be sophmore next year
my medschool list still pretty long at the moment about 20 schools is like based mainly on curriculum (non-trad ,lots patient interac.), supportive env . i'll factors later + dream schools.

by the time i'llget to the Us by bor will be already there in cal diong his MBA in stanf. he got this really nice complete scholarship.
 
Hey all🙂

Well I survived the weekend lol. I ended up being at work for 11 hours both Fri and Sat, and today we actually managed to get out of there at 7 hours. Now I remember why I was sooo burnt out fall semester lol. Selling-wise I didn't do quite as well as I hoped, but I also didn't shame my past reputation either. I've been gone almost 6 months from there now and I didn't have to ask half as many questions as far as to where merchandise was as some of the other people who have been working there for a few weeks now lol. Heck, half the "new" crew was asking me questions about where things were. (The back room isn't that hard to figure out -- everything is arranged by color. heel height, and whether it's open or close toed yet I don't think the "newbies" have managed to figure that out yet lol). I'm just glad it's over! 😀

Homework-wise I've managed to start reading the stuff I need to for tomorrow but I still have a lot to do tonite/tomorrow before class. Tues Biopsych starts. I'm looking forward to that one 🙂

Manna - I think microscope's just take practice to become "good" at. My Gen Bio actually used one quite a bit so I got some early practice on it. Hopefully it'll serve me well when I get to micro next spring. As far as Comp, don't worry about it too much...get one of those writing guideline books and just look up any questions you have about MLA, APA, etc. Besides in sciences we don't use MLA all that much anyway I don't think. I think we use APA mostly. And grading in comp classes is soooo subjective anyway. Papers that would score A's by one teacher got B's by another for me lol.

Welcome rugirlie! 😀 Your fall semester doesn't sound too bad. I imagine you'll spend most of your time on hebrew (I wanna take that at some point...they don't offer it thru colleges here tho...only the synagogues - of which there is one in town hehe), and molecular bio and biochem. I'm surprised those are both combined into one class! They are completely separate here. Sensation and perception and abnormal psych should both be a breeze, and abnormal psych is a blast!

Tina - Hope Biochem went well for ya! And good luck on your other finals😀

Biodude - Good luck on your world history midterm Tues!

Minx - maybe you can't just drop into a hospital and ask around, but is there a website for spain's medical association? If there is you may be able to do a search for local docs and email some of them asking if you could shadow....

I'm off to get some more reading done🙄

--Jessica, UCCS
 
hey rugirl... so when are you taking mcats? I just cracked open my overwhelmingly large comprehensive review book. Blah! Valinor... aren't you reviewing now? I'm so tired after work and soccer workouts, I just want to eat and sleep. It's really a push to study. I hope I can make it through a section or two this summer. 🙁
 
Originally posted by Biodude
manna - Hey manna, I'm not so great with the microscope myself 😀 I don't think I'll be taking Microbio though...I like your perserverence, though. Keep it up, and I'm sure that things will improve sometime later on.

Please excuse my stupidity here, but what does "6 weeks to go" refer to?

I'll try signing up for the ROP course on Thursday (the first people can go register), and I do hope that I can get in 🙂

Good luck with the ROP course, that sounds like a great opportunity... when does it begin? (you probably mentioned that already, and I've probably forgotten!) :laugh:

LOL! Thanks... micro is required for all the science majors at my uni, and I really think it's a fascinating class.... making me put forth some extra effort into cleanliness, though. Not that 'm a filthy person or anything, but yuck thinking about all those bacteria lurking around! 🙂

6 weeks is all that's left in summer session. I'm really hating my Comp 2 class, so will be unbelievably pleased when it is over! 🙂

Ru and Skater - can you believe I actually took Hebrew in kindergarten? (I'm serious - I went to a private religious school and we took Hebrew from K - 2nd grade or something like that) :laugh:
 
Daily update...

Today: Catching up on my reading (an enormous amount of reading, I might add); going to the hospice office to do some fun clerical work 🙄

Tomorrow: First exam in World History and lecture in American Studies

Wednesday: Lecture in World History

Thursday: Lecture in World History and American Studies

Friday: Would be a day off I guess

Well, that's my schedule for the week. Nothing exciting as of yet, but I feel the need to post up daily updates whenever I post here, so just skip it if you find it boring.

I'll just be here studying for the History exam and catching up on American Studies readings. At this rate, I may have to cram for the American Studies mid-term exam.

manna - ah, 6 weeks before the end of summer session...hmm, I have about 4 more for World History and 5 more for American Studies including this week. I think Skaterbabe74's got a good idea on how to deal with the MLA format. I would recommend getting "Writing from A to Z" 4th ed. if it is in your school's book store. It sure helped me through English 101.

washkeep - Hey dude, I may not know how ya feel, but at times like this, maybe you can better self-motivate yourself another way...I stumbled onto the pre-med section of the Kaplan website and found something interesting in the area of self-motivation. Why don't you try to write a note to yourself, about why you're doing this, about why you want to become a doctor, and about why it's all worth doing. Just read the note when you feel tired, lazy, burned-out, and just not in the mood to study.

Skaterbabe74 - I'm not surprised to hear about the newbies asking you questions...does the expression "common sense isn't common" seem true? 😛 Biopsych sounds fun. Please keep us updated on that and hopefully you'll be caught up by the weekend this week. I don't really have much more to say, sorry 😀

minx - I'm sorry I can't help ya out, but I guess everyone else has some good ideas for finding doctors to follow around. As for Stanford, well, from what I've heard about the school, it seems to offer generous scholarships to people from lower-income families...I know that Stanford med students don't come out with as much debt as students from other private schools because of the generous scholarships they offer to their students (an ulterior motive of mine for wanting to go there 😀 ) Oh, and I'll be a sophomore next year too! Well, assuming that I don't fail any of my summer courses...🙄

Well, now to go back to the boring books...
 
Biodude- ever encouraging, thanks.

So I've been looking at med schools and looking at med school applicants. Drawing from past knowledge and recent research, it seems like the applicants that get the most acceptance letters have the most clinical/volunteer experience. I feel like I should make up some kinda formula say..

If A+B/C + X >1, 95% chance of getting into medschool
If A+B/C + X<1, 20% chance
If A+B/C + X = 0 0 you're screwed

Where A= yrs. clinical experience + yrs. volunteer work
AND B= yrs. research + research publications/ 1
AND C= # of C's +D's +F's you've gotten + 2
AND X= # number of good connections you have to med school (ie, uncle is on admissions board)

What do ya'll know about Oregon? Portland looks beautiful. Less snow than wisconsin.

Minx- so what about a family doctor to shadow?
 
Hey, what's up all?

I was formerly Dentistsomeday? I posted a while back.
Anyway, I went to my first class of summer today, and it was a good experience, it was English 101 and the professor didn't seem easy, it seemed as if you had to work hard to get an A. And you know its always more difficult to score an A in a subjective class. I have to write 7 papers including the final, along with rough drafts etc. in a span of 6 weeks! I am going to work hard but won't be dissapointed if I make a B lol.

I took Intro Psychology and Intro to Biology too (I know what yall thinking, 'that is too much for summer!'):laugh: 😉Naa, I am not taking all of them, I am gonna drop one or two, so I'll end up with one or two which is not bad.

And also I am starting volunteer work in a hospital and planning to do 2 shifts a week, do you all have any experiences to share or tips for that?? I don't know if I should do more and sign up at a hospice for volunteering like you biodude?? Or will that be too much? hmmm.

Anyway holler at yall later, BTW I have Biology class today evening. later😉:clap:

Ashwin
 
Oh goodness. Physics was pretty hard. Its always hard to gauge how you do on these finals because the profs purposely make the questions incredibly vague and basically look to see how you reasoned through it. Sigh. At least I'm done. I survived it, I know that much, but I really don't want to end up with a B-. EEEK!!

English is Wednesday but should be a piece of cake. Neurobio is Thursday and then I will be dooooooone. I am very proud of myself. I think I did my absolute best this quarter, and regardless (well, somewhat regardless) of what grades I get, I know I did all I could. Way to go me! Hahahaha

I am so excited about this summer. Get to train as a supervisor and make some money. I am still doing my internship at the Peds Ward at UCD Med Center which I love. But fall quarter I am gonna try for the birthing center one cause that is really what interests me. A girlfriend of mine got to see a bunch of deliveries and a few C-sections. I cant wait!!

My sister is a freshman here at Davis doubling in Poli Sci and history. She is going to be living with me next year and I am way happy. We are very close and she is my best friend. She's really helped out me out a lot this year in terms of money and stuff. She's way awesome!

Alright, its time for a nap. Two down, two to go. Summer, wait for me!
 
Just coming back in to make some comments before the end of the day. Well, that and I also received an interesting piece of mail today. It seems that I have been summoned for jury duty despite the fact that I will have summer school classes on that day (July 24) 😱 😡

Does anybody have any tactics for dodging jury duty? I'd like to, because this notice has just come in on a really inconvienient time.

Speaking of which, the jury duty summons has reminded me that my birthday is coming up (it's in July). If anybody wants to know, I'll give a hint: my birthday is on the same day as Tom Cruise's birthday 😎

Mr. Premed - Hi again, dude! So you decided on medicine? Anyhow, my comments on what your plans are:

I don't think that volunteering in both the hospital and at a hospice is too much provided that you can handle it. Looking at your schedule, I wonder if you can handle all the plans you've made. Well, if you can, great, and if you can't, then you're going to have to drop something to make ends meet. I don't think volunteering in the hospital and hospice is redundant either, because you sort of get to see patient care from two perspectives: the hospital, which is mainly there to help sick people get healthy, and the hospice, which is there to provide palliative (comfort) care to the terminally ill (i.e. there's no cure for their diseases). These are two very different perspectives on patient care, and I think that the hospice is a good place to develop your humanistic skills in caring for the sick and aged.

The hospital volunteering is nice for clinical experience. I haven't volunteered at a hospital yet, but one piece of advice I can give you is, get to know the nurses and doctors you're working with. See what their work hours are like, see what they do, see how they communicate with their patients, ask for their feelings on doing their work, etc. Get to know exactly what it is like to be a doctor...your romanticized view may or may not match reality. This is what medical schools are looking for, according to my primary care physician. He said that basically, prospective medical students should know just what we are getting ourselves into.

As for your classes...I've taken English 101 and Intro to Psych at the same time. That English schedule sounds about right...it's all about the essay writing anyhow. Although that totally sucks how subjective the grading is...find out what your professor looks for. I mean, truly analyze the comments the professor makes when you get your essays back...after all, what one prof thinks is brilliant, another thinks is trash...you'll just have to get to know your professor, dude. That's the advice I can give for English. As for Intro to Psych, don't expect it to be too exciting. It'll cover some interesting things about Psych and some boring things about Psych, since it is an Intro class. Hopefully the later classes will be more interesting. For Intro to Bio...well, I've never actually taken an intro to bio class, you'll need to ask someone else about this...

BallerinaTina16 - Hmm...interesting about Physics. I think that my professor from my first bio class did the same thing. Sure screwed a lot of people 🙁 As for English, I'd agree...I've never found English to be difficult (except for the subjective grading, that is). Is your English final going to be an essay of some kind, or what? Well, regardless, go and kick some butt on your last two finals! Once this week is over, you can go and relax some.

An internship at the UCD medical center sounds interesting, and your sister sounds cooler than you've made her out to be before (in our IM's 😉 😀 )

Good luck! (I know it's redundant, but what the heck, why not).

washkeep - funny that you should ask about Oregan. I don't know much about it, even though I'm a CA resident and I've visited Seattle, Washington (most of my relatives on my mom's side live there). As for attempting to calculate a formula on your chances of being accepted, I do have one piece of advice...DON'T. I know that it probably sounds harsh, but people who do that usually end up stressing too much, and I don't want you to do that, dude, when you're already studying for the MCAT. There is no set formula that could determine acceptance or rejection to medical school. I'd say, just do the best you can and don't listen to the people who babble about the fact that you need at least X amount of research experience, or Y amount of clinical experience, or...well you get the idea. It's really quality, not quantity, that matters. Oh wow, look at me, I volunteered 50 hours at hospice, and what do I got to show for it? Well, so far, I'm still working in the clerical part...but at least I can see all the BS and paperwork health professionals have to go through.

Oh yeah, I found out from a current medical student that there are lots of people with good numbers who do not get accepted to medical school because, well...they totally lack in other areas. Extra-cirricular activities, interviews didn't go so well, personal statements just weren't interesting, letters of rec stunk, etc. Or they could have had the wrong personality for medicine. Or, get this...they could have been lying about their stats. I mean, most pre-meds are somewhat arrogant or they don't like to say that they had bad numbers. Get my point? Don't assume that they did everything perfect. And GPA/MCAT scores are the primary screener, but they aren't necessarily the most important. Medical schools will take someone with a 3.5 GPA/32 MCAT with tons of EC's/clinical/etc. over someone with a 4.0 GPA/45 MCAT with little to none...

Then there's the interview stage, where medical schools get to see what a prospective student's personality is like. Wrong personality, forget about applying again, 'cuz you won't get in. Unless you're willing/able to change it. Well, in any case, you seem like the right applicant for medical school, if what you've been saying all the time you've been here is true. Besides, it's not the end of the world if you don't get in on the first try, right?

Oh yeah, I forgot to respond to manna...my ROP course starts on June 23rd, assuming that all goes well, and my jury duty doesn't cut into it 😡

Why do full-time college students have to serve on a jury too? 🙁
 
Does anybody have any tactics for dodging jury duty? I'd like to, because this notice has just come in on a really inconvienient time.

i'm not an expert on this, since i've never had to deal with it, but my friend had jury duty a few months ago. she got out by sending them a confirmation from college that she is a full time college student, i know this is summer session and i'm not if u're full time or not, but proving that you have classes should work with not problems
 
Hey all!😀 Just got back from class...tonite wasn't quite as boring as last week cuz he answered less questions....course he also retold a story that we all read a couple times in our textbooks lol. Oh well🙄 I'm about halfway thru my readings for tomorrow so I'm all caught up thankfully! Yay!🙂

Manna - I'm not surprised at all that you took hebrew as a way youngster lol. I'd just like to be able to read the Seder books and some of the other stuff in the hebrew rather than in english or the roman alphabet version of hebrew lol.

MrPremed - Depending on how much your working this summer I don't think eng comp, intro to psych, and intro to bio will be that hard to cope with. I mean most of us are taking that many classes or even more during this summer. I've never taken an Intro to Bio class (I took Gen Bio I and II), but from what I've gathered from some of my classmates the intro classes are extremely easy...

As far as volunteering, I volunteered back in hs but I was in pretty non-patient oriented areas for the most part. I spent a lot of time in the gift shop, records, and reception lol. Do your best to get into a patient contact area, but I don't see why 2 shifts/week wouldn't be plenty so long as you ask lots of questions, get to know the docs and nurses, and spend as much time around patients as possible...I totally agree with Biodude that it's quality rather than quantity that counts...

Tina - Ok that sounds like the worst kind of physics test possible! lol...I'm sure you did fine on it tho! Good luck on the rest of your finals! The nice thing about living with your sister is that you're already used to it lol...none of those roommate horror stories hehe.

Wash - The one thing I've gleaned so far in this process is that there is no proven method for getting accepted to med school. And even if there is (ie. your formula) then you end up working too hard to make yourself the perfect candidate and forget to have fun in college. Therefore don't try to be the "perfect" candidate, just do what you like and have fun!

As far as Oregon I really don't know much about the state other than there are a ton of Nordstrom's in the state hehe, and the weather is beautiful although can be a bit on the cold and rainy side lol.

Biodude - Good luck on your exam tomorrow! As far as jury summons, full time students are generally exempt from serving while in school. There should be a phone number or email address you can call with issues like that, and then they'll reschedule you for a break or a day that you don't have class...I had a final on a day I was orginally summoned, sent an email, and got a reply back that I'd be receiving a new summons during winter break. 9 times out of 10 you'll call the phone number the nite before and find out you haven't been called anyway lol...or you'll have to call around noon to see if you're needed for the afternoon and then not called. (that's what happened to me on this last summons). Just make sure you call now to reschedule rather than later and they should be able to easily accomodate you....

Anyway, I'm off to finish my comp religion reading for the nite and read the first chapter for biopsych🙂 Laters...

--Jessica, UCCS
 
hi all...
thanks for the warm welcome..... actually skaterbabe, hebrew 101-102 this past year was a breeze and i loved it... i went to hebrew school for like 3 years and had a bat mitzvah but i cvouldn't read without vowels and i had no idea what i was saying... so i was basically a beginner cept i knew like the alphabet.... that sucks that u can't take it... mol bio and biochem is a two semester course.... that may be why u find it strange that they are together.... its supposed to be impossible basically.. averages are in the twenty percentile.. i'm very scared, needless to say.....

i'm takin the mcats in august... wish me luck!! how are u reviewing?? oh any of u EMTs?? I'm feelin like i need to do that due to my lack of clinical exp... right now, for the summer i'm doin a pre med internship at a hospital which consits of a few diff things totalling maybe 15-20 hours a week... but everyone i talk to is an EMT!! should i invest in the 120 hour 6 month course?? its soo much time and it would be durin school... i just don't know.... any advice?? well its late, i should get to bed.. got mcat class tomorrow.... talk to u all later....
 
Chem is actually not a bad class. The 3 hours go surprisingly quickly. I'm off tomorrow, and have our first test Wednesday. Shouldn't be too bad, just on intermolecular forces and stuff like that.
 
hi ,i don' t if I can shadow a family doc i see and ask thank for your pieces of advice evryone biodude his was not from stanford he got from this spanish bank called la CAIXA , they do this contest every year in spain for graduated students to award certain n* of scholar to go grad.school in this in US but they can apply to any school they like he choose stanford.

I do my investigations for med schools, most are private since i'm a foreigner except one Cal school UCSF because my uncle live there and long before i started College he tried to convience me to SF to study. He lives in Orinda BAY area. I kept my at http://www.princetonreview.com

they this really nice tool with database with school and a small review of aspect acad, loc,sholarship, adm req and more you can then save them in list you just have to registar its free. check it out it should be useful.
 
Ya'll!.... LIGHTEN UP! The formula was a joke. About the skipping jury duty. I know you can get out of it, if you want to, but I really feel like it is your duty. I feel like no one wants to take responsibility for all the problems they perceive in the community, the US, and the world. You obviously want to make change in the world... how is this different? This is why we get bogus juries that reward all the wrong people. I know this sounds a bit lofty but I believe it, "Be the change you wish to see in the world."

rugirl- Good luck on MCATS! I'm going thru the kaplan comprehensive revie now. :wow:

Mr.Premed- I'm shadowing various docs in a hospital right now. So if you have to decide between the hospital and hospice, I would really take a look at each setting. Hospices can be depressing, and you really have to want to be there. A hospital may be a bit more interesting, as you will be able to see a variety of health problems.

Ballerina- Wow, you're going to live with your sister? Ya'll must be very close. I love my sister, but I would NOT be able to handle her coming home with her boyfriend. 🙂 And I would feel uneasy about the reverse.
 
Wow does this thread multiply or what? It's great that everyone's keeping in contact (and we're all staying sane, right?)

Ahhh, I've finally surfaced back into the real world. Taking Intro Psych in three weeks was insane, to say the least. Not that the material is all that difficult, but the amount of reading was just crazy! Four hours in class each morning (we got two 15-minute breaks so it wasn't that bad), then come home and read anywhere from 60-90 pages depending on the chapters for that day, then rewriting my chicken scratch notes before I forget the specifics of what we covered that day so I can actually understand them later. And an exam each week. Well, at least I can proudly say that I got an A. And on top of this all......

My prof made a chance comment in the beginning of week 2 about some personality problems being caused by phenylketonuria. Well, (not that I would have shared this otherwise), my husband and I have been having some problems in our marraige, and he *had* PKU. Ya see, at the time he went off his diet and formula in 1989, the prevailing wisdom was that kids "grew out of it". So I go and talk to my prof after class to pick her brain, turns out she had been involved in a case study on an adult PKU patient (she specializes in biopsych research) and she informed me that research they'd done in the 1990's showed that PKU patients suffer long-term effects from not being on the diet and formula, and the things she mentioned fit my husband EXACTLY. So we got on the phone to his former doctor (a prof at MCW) and they wanted him in right away-turns out they'd tried to contact all their old patients in the 90's when the new research came to light and couldn't find most of them. We went to the appointment yesterday and as of this morning he's back on the diet and drinking this absolutely disgusting formula (they let me taste it-most medicines taste better!). So basically our entire lives have changed, practically overnight. The good thing is that most, if not all, of the long-term negative effects are reversible, so now all we have to do is wait. They said we should see results in a few weeks, as soon as his phe levels drop. It feels better to know that it's not just him being unreasonable, that there's actually a cause beyond his conscious control and we can do something about it (he's also been getting depressed b/c he can tell he hasn't been functioning normally and couldn't figure out why.) Sorry if this is TMI about my private life but it's just so cool to see what medicine can do (and of course now my motivation to become a doctor has just been greatly reinforced!)

*Cool side note*-the nurse will teach me how to draw his blood next visit since he's got to have tests every few weeks at least in the beginning and his fingers don't yield hardly anything with the lancets.

The state of WI does the tests itself and pays for them (as well as his formula and special food-whew!) but not the draw, and his insurance company won't cover the draw since their approved lab isn't doing the test, blah blah blah, such BS! So to avoid huge fees, I have to do it. The only thing his insurance company will cover is the actual physician visits, but the state provides the dietician, so our total costs should be close to zero. The doctor told us, if you have PKU, Wisconsin is the state to live in since they build in extra money into the heel blood-stick tests done on all newborns to fund this program. So it looks like we won't be leaving Wisconsin for medical school b/c if we had to pay for it all it would drive us into bankruptcy and kill our college dreams. As it is, our grocery bill went WAY up. We went shopping last night and had half our cart filled with produce for him-that's about the only thing he can eat off the shelf. It's amazing how many things contain protein that I never thought would!

Ugh-sorry this got so long, I just got to rambling again.......I was going to do more specific personal replies but I'll come back later. (I swear, it's not all about me, me, me!) Hope you appreciated the bit of medical trivia-if you want me to explain the (etiology, pathology-I don't know what's the correct term) of PKU, let me know-I don't know if it's common knowledge or not. I sure didn't know until I researched it b/c it didn't become an issue until last week.

Good luck to those of you still in finals or in summer courses-hang in there!😀
 
Hey everyone, I know that skipping jury duty sounds rude, but, it's at a REALLY INCONVIENIENT time! If you were summoned to jury duty right before your finals week started, wouldn't you be at least a little bit annoyed? I'd rather do it over say, Winter Break or next summer, because this summer, I have classes to take! I'm not trying to skip out on responsibility here, I'm trying to reschedule it to a better time. One that doesn't screw up my schedule.

CH3CH2OH - Hiya dude, where have ya been? 😀

Cozmosis - Good luck on your Chem test Wednesday! And keep us updated, will ya?

jenni4476 - Congrats on the A in Psych! As for PKU, that's an interesting story, and I do hope that your problems with your husband are settled. That's totally cool that the nurse is going to teach you how to draw blood...I myself have yet to learn one skill in the medical/health professions area (that's right, I still don't know how to do CPR 🙄 😛 )

rugirlie - I'm not an EMT, and though it may be impressive to become an EMT, I say don't do it unless you want to get your clinical experience that way. I think that your hospital internship alone is fine...remember, it's quality, and if you can explain why your hospital internship is just as good as or better than EMT experience, then you don't need EMT experience. Besides, if you get to see patients and learn what it is truly like to be a doctor, then it is enough. Your hospital internship sounds like it's enough, assuming that you will help take care of patients and have the time to talk with some of the doctors. You know, like what they do, how much time they spend at work, at home, their income, their on-call times, their job satisfaction, etc. Plus, you will find out if you truly like to take care of sick people, won't you? That's what will impress medical schools. Not "oh yeah, I worked as an EMT and got to respond to medical emergencies". As for MCAT...good luck! You've got quite some studying to do. People recommend 300 hours at the very least, but most people do 400 or even 500.

washkeep - Actually, I'd like to say something about hospice, and people who misunderstand what hospices are about do find it depressing. It's actually your attitude about it that determines whether it is depressing or not. I mean, if people with terminal, incurable illnesses are ready to die, then I'm not going to stop them, because well, I can't. What I can do is make their last days happy, comfortable, and enjoyable, and that's pretty much the attitude I have when I get to see patients. Do I feel sad in finding out that they die? Yes, I do. But I also feel happy knowing that the patients died happy and comfortable...they didn't die struggling, they didn't die wanting to live...they died in peace, and with some knowledge that they would go to heaven (or whichever religion you believe in...whatever the equivalent would be).

Sorry about the rant, dude, but I feel the need to have to explain when someone says that hospices are depressing. It's really your attitude about it, and if Mr. Premed has the wrong attitude, then he shouldn't volunteer in the hospice.

Oh yeah, and you sure caught us bein' serious with that joke of yours...how many hours are you planning on studying for the MCAT? The recommended is 300, but most people go for 400 or 500.

minx - UCSF, eh? Wow, a lot of people are starting to like that school. I think that I will place it as my #1 😉 For those of you who didn't know, I couldn't figure out whether to place Stanford, UCSF, or Yale as #1...so they were all top in my eyes and I'd just go to the first one of the 3 that accepted me. But then again, they (UCSF) prefer non-trads, and I'm traditional, so...aw well, I wouldn't know 'til I apply anyhow, I'm not gonna worry about it. Princeton review's website does have some interesting info on it, and I would also recommend checking it out after minx.

Skaterbabe74 - I take it that you are now enjoying Comparative Religion then? 😀 Hope ya catch up on that reading of yours! 😉

I've got about 6 and 1/2 hours before World History. Plenty of time to study for a 25 question all multiple choice test, don't y'all think? Well, I guess I better just review my lecture notes here...about 80% of the test comes from the lecture notes. I still have to catch up on American Studies (so much reading 😛 )

Thanks for the tips, I will sure try them out and see if I can move my jury duty to winter break...otherwise, I hope that I don't have any exams on the day that I'm required to show up. I'll let everyone know how the test went. In all honesty, I don't expect it to be hard, it's just that I don't know what kind of questions the professor likes to ask. Of course, this happens in every class...once you know the kinds of questions and answers the professor asks and expects, it becomes easier.

Later!
 
Hey all!

Just got back from biopsych. It's gonna be a pain scheduling-wise, but I think (fingers crossed) it'll be an easy A. We don't have any lectures. We just take MC tests, but the book is 19 chapters, and we have a test for every one of them. The lowest 3 grades will be dropped tho. So...we have to fit 19 tests into 8 weeks, but the book is set up into 6 units of 2-4 chapters so I think the best strategy for getting thru it all will be to do a unit a week and split the two 4 chapter units into 2 weeks. The tests are 10 questions only, but we get 3 shots at getting the score we want on the tests...with 3 different versions of each test to "try" out. The highest score will count. We can take our tests anytime during our scheduled class time, and take as many tests as we want so long as we go consecutively. If we want to retake the same chapter we just have to study for 30 minutes inbetween attempts. Also we can get up to 10 grade points extra credit by participating in research or doing 1 page summaries of some Scientific American articles the prof is putting on reserve for us in the library. Thankfully the book is pretty reader-friendly so far anyway so I think I'll really enjoy this class🙂 .

Good luck on your exam Cozmosis!

Rugirlie - You had more experience going in then I would hebrew-wise. I still need to convert officially although I generally practice all the holidays at this point...I need to have a car so that I can attend classes and Fri services first tho lol. (I wasn't raised in anything.) We have a 2 semester biochem course and then a 1 semester molecular bio/genetics course. It sucks that your version is supposed to be soo impossible tho! Good luck!

Sorry Wash lol...next time put a big sarcasm alert somewhere ...jokes are hard to read online sometimes hehe.

Hey jenni! Welcome back! Believe me I know how you feel...that's how my Comp. Religion class is. Congrats on the A tho! Actually one of my Gen Chem prof's projects is to create a biosensor to monitor the amt of phenyalanine in people just like your hubby! I'm very glad to hear that none of his problems should be permanent tho😀

Biodude - I wouldn't say I'm enjoying class itself...it's actually pretty boring cuz our prof rambles so much, but I am enjoying the readings😀 . Hopefully it'll serve me well on the term paper when we finally get the questions lol.
Good luck on your exam today 🙂

--Jessica, UCCS
 
BUMP!

Well, the exam in history wasn't difficult. It was quite easy, and I'd say that I missed maybe about 1 to 3 answers...

Skaterbabe74 - That's a strange way to go about a class and an insane amount of tests to get done with! But, if what you say is true, then you could handle it 😉 Are you going to do your research paper for extra credit?

Hey everyone, I don't really feel like saying much today because, truth be told, I don't have much to talk about. I missed my hospice volunteering on Monday because I had to go pick up my brother from school (my mom had to run an errand)...so I'll be doing tons of paperwork clerical duties today. What fun 🙄

American Studies is still very exhausting and I have yet to catch up on the readings.

I'll see if I can sign up for the ROP class tomorrow...

Later everybody!
 
Good morning, everyone... glad it's hump-day! 🙂

Good luck getting into the ROP class and the jury duty thing, Bio. I had to sit on a jury once.. I didn't realize who the guy was until after the case was over (it only lasted for about 4 hours), but turns out my own parents had taken him to court in the past for the same charges! ("spotlighting") I guess if I'd known that going into the case, they probably would have excused me! :laugh:

I applied for a weekend job as a patient care tech at a local hospital because I figured I could use the money and the experience, but I haven't heard back from them .... and I'm struggling with the idea of whether or not I should be away from my boys that much longer anyway. I'm already away from home 40 hours a week with my job, plus about 12 hours a week for class... 🙁

We had our first micro exam last night. I thought it was pretty simple, but most of my classmates seemed to be frustrated about it... I just don't get these young college students sometimes... maybe it's because it's a community college, I dunno. *shrug*

I didn't stay for lecture last night - on microbial metabolism - my little guy is sick and I felt like I should be home with him instead of listening to my prof read almost word-for-word out of our textbook.

Oh, and as for what's wrong with him... our MD seemed to think it was "cat scratch fever," but we haven't been around any cats... he's on Zithromax at the moment, so we'll see if he gets better/worse/stays the same (has a huge swollen gland in his neck).
 
manna, how old are your boys? I admire that you really seem to be a good mom and a good student. I think the hospital job would look good, but it is more time away from the family. What's your full-time job again?

So biodude, i understand about the crappy timing for jury duty. But your professors should understand. You just never know when you'll be hoping that you'll have a good jury. Uh, does that make sense?

Anyway, so you volunteer at a hospice? Yeah, I don't mean to be down on hospices, because they do provide great services. And I can see how it would be a comforting place. It's just the idea that all these people are waiting to die. But you're right, it's great that you can make their last months, weeks, days brighter. 🙂

Oh, and jenni, what an interesting story. I hope this is helping your marriage. Ya'll are lucky to have discovered the information in time. Good luck!
:clap:
 
OK, back as I promised.......

manna-I know how you feel. I'm struggling with the same thing right now-I've applied for several night/weekend jobs cuz the money would really help and I need to get some hospital experience, yet I don't like the idea of my kids being without me that much either...it kind of comes down to which causes more stress. Maybe try it out to see, or try to get an every other weekend schedule to spend more time with the kids? Good luck on getting the job! And I hope your little guy gets better-I know how upset I get when my kids are sick!

Biodude-Congrats on the History exam! I too am suffering from sore joints and muscles since I decided to step up my ballet practice and workouts after neglecting them for several months-oh well, what doesn't kill us only makes us stronger, right? I think you're quite justified in wanting to reschedule your jury duty for a more convenient time-right before finals is not good. (Crossing my fingers for myself here-I had to fill out a questionnaire a few weeks ago and they notified me I'd be called sometime between July-September. I'll gladly do it in July or August but come September I can't-my schedule is going to be difficult enough as it is!) There's a line between doing what you believe and having your life screwed up to do it, if you know what I mean. And good luck on getting into the ROP class!

Skaterbabe-tell your prof to hurry up and come up with something! 😀 My hubby is not liking the idea of being stuck that often (we have to actually draw blood from his elbow since his fingers are so scarred from all the earlier testing and his work in auto mechanics that even the longest lancets don't work real well on him) but he likes the idea of having me do it at home so he doesn't have to be running down to the clinic so often. And good luck in Biopsych (you'll have to let me know how it is-it sounds like a class I may want to take myself in the future)-the way that you can "try" a test up to 3 times sounds really cool even if it is an insane amount of work.

As far as my hubby goes, in two days his attitude towards life has improved remarkably. It can't possibly be from the diet and formula yet, I think it's more of a case that the frustration he's been feeling from not being able to function well and not knowing why or being able to improve it on his own has been causing him to feel worse about himself and everything and be more critical and negative about it all, thus causing more frustration on both our parts, so on and so forth.....if any of you can understand my rambling 😉 Now that the vicious cycle has been broken and he understands why and knows what he has to do to improve it, he's much more positive and patient, and the doctor told us it should only get better from here. So...life goes on....and I have a whole new low-protein cookbook to wade through today and decide what I'm going to make for him for dinner tonight.

Later...
 
Originally posted by washkeep
manna, how old are your boys? I admire that you really seem to be a good mom and a good student. I think the hospital job would look good, but it is more time away from the family. What's your full-time job again?

Aww thanks Wash. 🙂

My oldest will be 5 in August, he starts kindy this fall and I can't believe it! My youngest is 16 months. I used to swear I never wanted any kids.. but of course I love 'em to death. If I could go back and do it over, I'd certainly have finished school first - kids are so expensive! :laugh:

If I had some sort of skill, I think I'd just end up with a weekend job (work 2-12 hour shifts or something) and then go to school FT during the week... but the job I have now pays fairly well for someone with no marketable skills (vs what I'd get as a patient care tech, for example)

Oh, and as far as what I do.. I'm an engineering clerk for a company that builds heavy equipment (http://www.taylorbigred.com) - you could have seen a split second shot of one of our trucks in that movie Gone in 60 Seconds :laugh: - pretty much a glorified data entry type job, but it pays the bills for now. 🙂
 
Biodude - yeah technically i "could" get an A with only 14 of the tests and the total EC amt, but we'll see how the tests go whether i need to take all of them or not lol. The EC wouldn't be a term paper tho....you read an article and write a 1 pg summary of it. We can do up to 5 of those at 4 points each and get the 20 total EC points. (each grade point is 2 ec points). And yes I will definitely be doing those. I'm already very glad I took A&P first...they cover the cranial nerves in with basic neurons and stuff all in one chapter! lol...

Congrats on your exam😀

Jenni - He just got the grant to start this project for this summer, so I have a feeling it'll be awhile yet, but I'll keep you updated on his progress for sure🙂 . I think Biopsych is going to be extremely interesting....of course the regular semester version isn't set up quite the same way, but I love this 3 "trys" thing lol.


Manna - I hope your little boy feels better soon...and if you get offered the job and accept it I hope you enjoy it😀

Off to finish my reading for today and work thru some of the study questions for biopsych 🙂

--Jessica, UCCS
 
Hi all!!
manna, I hope your little feels better soon!
ballerinatina what type of work are doing? I keep thinking that you are already in some type of healthcare??? But that experience really sounds cool.😎
Good luck with your classes sakterbabe! You seem to be well organized and I'm just trying to straggle along.
😀
Biodude congrats on the exam. It seem as if everyone is going strong! :clap:
Mr. Pre-Med cool change of name! 😉
Well anyway I have two essays to finish and I might be a little scarce until I'm done. So bye for now!!
I will be lurking tho - of course.😉
 
Originally posted by 2badr


Good luck with your classes sakterbabe! You seem to be well organized and I'm just trying to straggle along.
😀

LOL - I wouldn't say I'm well organized. I have a possible plan, but we'll see how it actually works out lol. I'm definitely straggling along tho. It's just that when you aren't given any sort of schedule for a class to start with other than you have 8 weeks and everything has to be done in order you kind of "have" to come up with some sort of plan lol.

So far I've managed to read the first chapter but haven't answered any of the questions yet, and I'm working on copying the second chapter's questions so that I can answer those too. (The cdrom isn't very printer-friendly unfortunately.) I hope to take the first test tomorrow, but we'll see how much I actually get done tonite...I may just wait and work most of the weekend on the first several chapters and take 1 and 2 on Tues and 3 and 4 on Thurs or something like that lol.

Plus my bf is taking a week off work at the beginning of July so I'll probably have to add a test onto the previous week and the following week cuz I'd really like to spend that week with him hehe.

Anyway, hope your classes are going well. I think we will all be trudging thru this summer lol.

--Jessica, UCCS
 
hey all....

wow, it seems like all of you are taking summer classes... i vowed i would never do that.... lol... for the summer, i quit my job till sept (they are nice like that and will take me back) and i'm doin the hospital internship i mentioned.. its kinda random cuz its designed for pre meds and we do a little of this and that.. i volunteer transporting patients in the OR, i feed patients once a week, shadow a resident a few hours a week, we have weekly lectures of diff depts (today was medical records, which was actually intersting despite how it sounds) and then we also have a few observation days, one of which i did last friday in the OR and it was soo awesome cuz i had never seen anything like it.. i watched four surgeries, the most grusome being a mascetomy but it was really cool... and i'm also taking princ. review mcat classes, so hopefully this aug will be the first and last time i have to take them..... well, thats a little info on me, and i think i already mentioned i'm goin into my juinor year this fall at rutgers.... anywho...

skaterbabe- wow, that psych class seems so crazy with the weird work and exam policy and a lot to handle, but u def seem like ur on top of it.... and yea def try and see ur boyfriend... its important to make sure we all still have lives in this crazy journey...lol

manna- wow i sure admire u, doing all this with kids to boot, and u sound like ur a dedicated mom.. i couldn't imagine that, its really amazing...

biodude- wow, lots on ur plate... but u sound like u should have no problems and even tho i've never been summoned, i totally sympathize... i would try and change it if i could, i don't want anyone to talk to me during finals, let alone disrupt my studying...

minx- totally call up all the hospitals in ur surrounding area and ask if they have shadowing programs.. i kno most of mine do but they have reallllly long waiting lists of like 400 people, so call early!!!

washkeep- haha i thought the formula was funny.. let me know how kaplan is, maybe we can trade strategies!

ok sorry for this ridiculously long post... tryin to address most everyone, i'll get to the rest of you next time.. gotta be up for the hospital and mcat classes right after tomorrow so i'm gonna head to bed.... good luck to everyone takin exams, which seems to be most of u!!! i'll be posting soon....
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Hey everyone...

Hospice office volunteering today...it was pretty tedious, and I didn't get done what I was told to get done, but I did finish more than the people expected. Go figure, huh? It was just boring paperwork and filing.

I was pretty tired when I went to class, but I'm glad that I only had one class today. Boring old history. I'm not afraid of the exams anymore, assuming that the rest of the exams are just like the first one (i.e. the way the professor said the exams were going to be).

Now then...

rugirlie - hey, don't worry about ridiculously long. No need to apologize, at least not to me, the king of ridiculously long posts 😀 I'm surprised that the posting space can actually handle the length of my posts. Your hospital internship sounds cool, and also valid clinical experience. Be sure to talk to the docs when you have the chance, eh? 😉

I guess people were misunderstanding, but I'm not taking summer finals on the day that I have been summoned to jury duty. I will have classes on that day, though. Ah, maybe the courts will understand and allow me to go to class! 😀

My experience with summer courses thus far:

The Good: The tests and grading are SO EASY! I couldn't believe how easy it was to snag that A on my first exam (I know that I couldn't have missed more than maybe 3 questions on it) 😎

The Bad: The reading assignments are a killer! Try reading about 90 to 100 pages between lecture days. 😱

I try to schedule my summer/winter session courses to be easy general education units, like art 101, for example. So, it's really not so bad. Besides, I don't have to worry about writing some stupid research term paper for either class...my entire grade will come from exams.

Skaterbabe74 - hehe, that's pretty funny about the CD-ROM. Anyways, good luck, sounds like you're gettin' organized for Biopsych tests. And have fun with your boyfriend on the fourth of July, will ya? 🙂

Sorry about not having much to say today...I wish that I could say more, like I usually do! Maybe later...

Tomorrow:

World History lecture and American Studies lecture. I swear that I'll keep saying this, but American Studies is a very interesting and informative class...it's just such a drag to have to take it from 6 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. I'm just not a night person. Oh well, hopefully, I'll be awake enough to take the mid-term and final exams. 😀

And ROP...I wonder how difficult it will be for me to find a job as a hospital assistant? Well, more to the point, I wonder how difficult it would be to find a job as a hospital assistant working weekend shifts? In any case, I'm just excited to be able to start working as part of the healthcare team, assuming I can land a spot. Sure, I'll be taking orders from nurses and doctors, but at least I'll get the clinical experience that I dreadfully need. And maybe I'll see if I can develop some repoire with my patients 🙂
 
hey guys,

well dunno if y'all remember me, but its been a while since i made an entry in this topic. so...hey again!😀

Well well well...semester has ended..summer school from the 16th again..kinda bored sitting idle...haha i know it sounds kinda odd, but yeah...

Anyway,

Biodude: Dude this is a dumb question but, whats the difference between volunteering at the hospice and the hospital? 😕 whats a hospice anyway? And which is considered better by med schools?

I know a pretty ******ed question but seriously youve been mentioning it and I have like no idea what you were talkin abt. Anyway, I volunteer at a hospital...

And how did your general chem class go? I remember you mentioned abt it last time I came in this topic...

well bye guys! see ya later!
 
Good job Cozmo!

rugirl- that sounds like a really cool internship. oooo- a masectomy! Can people watch brain/neuro- surgeries? I think that is so friggin interesting.

I am simply amazed by the brain. I am also amazed by our inability to understand things so close to us. Has anyone read GIFTED HANDS? 😉
 
Morning everyone!

the Undergrad - Hey dude, where have ya been? As for my Chem class, it didn't end so hot. I was doin' pretty well but I flubbed up on my last set of tests and I did worse on the final than I thought. I got a C, but there's always next semester and I've got so many more science classes to improve on it...still, I've gotten a C in about 14 semester units of science so far, so it'll be a bit tough to overcome.

As for hospice vs. the hospital, well, most people I've talked to don't even know what a hospice is! So, it's not a stupid question. It's a normal one I get all the time whenever I tell other people that I volunteer in a hospice. However, if you check back a few entries, you'll find my explanation.

If you're too lazy, well, I'll send you a PM and give a detailed explanation on it. If you're interested, the hospice I volunteer at caters to people living in Orange County, so if you're goin' to UCI, I can give you the number to contact the volunteer coordinator.

washkeep - well, I've been meaning to go and grab that book, but it's been difficult finding it (I don't use amazon.com very much). So let's see here...washkeep is interested in the brain, Valinor is interested in the heart, Skaterbabe74 is interested in Sports med, BallerinaTina16 is interested in Obstetrics...😀

Cozmosis - congrats, dude! :clap:

What's happening with me today has already been explained yesterday...I guess that I shouldn't really say much if I don't have many interesting things to talk about.

Be back later!
 
Hey all, I just got back from the ROP office...

Well, my experience today in attempting to sign up was a real eye-opener 😱

Turns out that the medical field is the big thing now. What a time to want to become a doctor, huh? Anyways, all medically-related classes (EMT, nurse's assistant, scrub tech, medical office clerk, etc.) were all filled up by the time I got there! What a rip 🙁 😡

I signed up on the wait-list, but there were like 10 people on the wait-list already before I went in. Which sucks, of course.

Oh well, time to go to Plan B. I say, "Always have a Plan B!" Especially with how difficult it is to get into medical school now, as before.

Plan B is:

Well, the ROP centers in my region are composed in 3 cities: Orange, Santa Ana, and Garden Grove. As you all may know, I live in Garden Grove (check the location on my posts, duh 😛 )

Santa Ana opened their registration yesterday, and assuming how popular the health and medical fields are right now, I would not be surprised to find that their medical classes are all filled up as well 🙁

Orange opened up today, and I wanted to get into the hospital assisting class which is only located in Orange, but like I said before, they're all field up. So that's two out of three.

Garden Grove, my home city, will not open up their registration until the 16th of June. As in, next Monday. I'll be sure to be there, and I will try to sign up for their Medical Terminology class (unfortunately the only class I could sign up for at the Garden Grove center). Medical Terminology is a pre-requisite for the Medical Assisting classes. I guess I will just have to settle for that class. That's my Plan B.

Now to see which doctors out there are willing to hire a medical assistant to work only weekends. That'll be pretty darn tough.

Later everyone!
 
Sorry to hear about that Bio, good luck getting signed up for the classes in the other location...

I'd think that living in urban California would provide that many more opportunities than living in rural Mississippi (like me), but apparently it also provides greater competition, eh? 🙂

It's a dreary day here today, thunderstorms - I'm exhausted and not feeling like going to Micro lab tonight. I also have a paper that needs to be written on Oedipus whose due date is quickly approaching...

Day 3 of Zithromax and my little guy doesn't appear to be feeling any better... 🙁

Just one more day until the weekend, thank heavens.
 
Sorry to hear about your little guy, manna-is there anything more they can do for him? Three days on antibiotics with no response seems like it's not working to me......I know all too well how priorities just shift when you've got a sick child!

washkeep-I've read Gifted Hands. Made me do a lot of thinking about possible neurosurgery...it just seemed so COOL! And then, of course, the section of Intro Psych that I enjoyed the most by far was the biological basis stuff, about the brain and nervous system and neurotransmitters, etc......altho it's a really LONG residency. Oh well, yet another decision to get put off until later since I know next to nothing now....

Biodude-You may want to check ahead of time into the availability of positions in whatever field you want to take the class in. I got my CNA certification in November and have been looking for part-time work ever since. I've applied to every hospital within a fifty-mile radius and even a bunch of nursing homes and NO ONE even called me back! Apparently due to the nursing shortage, so many nurses still in school or on waiting lists for school are getting certified in a lot of the entry-level medical related jobs to work during school and there's a huge surplus. I've even considered telling them I'm going to school for nursing instead of pre-med since there seems to be a generally more positive attitude about that out there.......also, of course, this could be just the regional area around here-I have no idea how it is in LA but from what you said it sounds pretty much the same. Good luck on whatever you choose to do, though.
 
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