There need to be a change in US educational system

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Dont you guys think it takes too long to be a medical doctor? 8 years man. in most countries including UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc, it takes about 5 to 6 years max.
 
ppa93 said:
Dont you guys think it takes too long to be a medical doctor? 8 years man. in most countries including UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc, it takes about 5 to 6 years max.


NO.
 
Definately NOT. You need to understand why US Trained doctors differ and then you may understand.
 
ppa93 said:
Dont you guys think it takes too long to be a medical doctor? 8 years man. in most countries including UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc, it takes about 5 to 6 years max.

for real man, the system should change; plus med school is free in many countries too!
 
seev99 said:
for real man, the system should change; plus med school is free in many countries too!

Making it free would be nice. I don't find any problems with the current system now. There are programs that lets you finish in 7 years here too.
 
seev99 said:
for real man, the system should change; plus med school is free in many countries too!
I agree. Expensive plus, takes forever
 
dr.z said:
Making it free would be nice. I don't find any problems with the current system now. There are programs that lets you finish in 7 years here too.
still it takes longer. It takes five years only over there.
 
USA's secondary education model is different, than most countries.
There actually are fast-paced medical schools (most of which require 6-7 years). There are medical schools (only allopathic schools) in the USA that do accept High School students, but those students are the exception, not the rule.
I wouldn't mind the seven year track, but I think most are happy with the eight years of education they recieve.
 
Well, one thing in other nations they aren't actually awarded a "doctorate" degree. Usually it is a MBBS (medical doctor bachelors, bachelors of surgery). So its an undergraduate degree. But then they can take the US boards and no one knows the difference. I just think that part is weird. Many doctors in large county hospitals are foreign trained MBBS, but yet it states on their name tag their MD! But they would need additional training in their own country before getting a MD. Lol!! It really doesnt matter though, they are all physicians, but i dont think its right that they can just randomly change their title. I think this is getting addressed though, more and more I see docs have the title MBBS after their name in hospitals (i work in county hospital as pharmacist). Ahh..what am i blabbing about....
To answer OP statement...i think US system is ok...u can be a PA which is only 4-5years and do exactly the same thing as most primary care physicians (less pay though), so i guess that kinda balances it out?? Or just goto europe nation med school and then risk not being able to get back in usa. Lots of competition to come here obviously, highest paid docs in usa. 😕
 
ppa93 said:
Dont you guys think it takes too long to be a medical doctor? 8 years man. in most countries including UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc, it takes about 5 to 6 years max.


NO! and that goes for all the other forums you posted this same thread in too!
 
Most of the countries in which medical education is free ( or almost free) have socialized medical system. So the doctors in these countries make much less than what doctors in US make. The payscale of US doctors is not as much as it used to be but it is still pretty high. If we put this in statistics, this is what it looks like:
US Family Practise (FP) doctor''s average salary is 1,20,000 $. How does this compare with other people. Only 4% of americans make as much as that. Yes that is right, FP doctors ( which some would say are the poorest doctors) make more money than 96% of Americans ( And US is the richest and the most powerful country which has ever existed in the history of humankind)

So the question is 'should we have free medical education and than get paid less OR should our medical education be expensive and be paid handsomely later?
It is a very difficult question to answer, not for the doctors but for the common person on the street who thinks the healthcare in America is way too expensive........

I think I will go for 4 years of ug + 4 years of medical school because it makes you more mature and the students who enter medical school know exactly what they want to do and not what there parents or family or friends or anyone else wants them to do.
 
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