Third year grades/ F's

[yl99]

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I was wandering if people would share how grading is done third year (i know it depends on the school), .

I was interested to know if people actually fail rotations based on the shelf exams and if so what happens. At your schools do you have to pass the shelf to pass the rotation.


Thanks

 

[Bertelman]

We had only one rotation that allowed passing w/o a pass on the Shelf. It was OB/Gyn. Don't remember why.

 

[Tired]

I was interested to know if people actually fail rotations based on the shelf exams and if so what happens. At your schools do you have to pass the shelf to pass the rotation.

At my school, if you fail the Shelf you are given one opportunity to retake the exam without repeating the rotation. If you fail a second time, you retake the rotation and the Shelf. No one can pass without passing the exam. The cutoff is usually set pretty low, however, in the range of 60-65% on most rotations.

 

[QuinnB]

At my school they have moved to more clinical based grading. Your clinical evals are worth from 60-80% of your final grade depending on the rotation. The rest is made up of presentations, papers and finally the shelf (which is 15-33% of the grade depending on the rotation). The catch is that you have to pass EVERY component of the clerkship to pass which includes your clinical evals, shelves, papers, etc...

I've never met or heard of anyone who failed a clerkship b/c of shelf grades alone...many schools, including mine, are willing to sit down and work things out with the student.

 

[nykka3]

Wow, there is only one rotation where the shelf grade is worth so much less than the evals and that is FM. For surgery, the shelf is worth 85%. Other rotations, the shelf is worth b/ 30-45% and evals, OSCE make up the rest. You have to pass the shelf to pass the rotation. If you fail any component you repeat that component unless it was your evals (you repeat the whole rotation!), and if you fail the component again you repeat the rotation. Your transcript will say NR until you pass the component and then u get a P. However, the NR will appear in your dean's letter even though it dissapears from your transcript.

 

[chrisisinnocent]

At my school it's: Pass/Fail/Honors with the top 15% getting honors. You have to pass the shelf and an OSCE to pass the rotation. You get a second crack at both if you fail either. You also cannot get a failed clinical evaluation from any attending or you have to repeat the rotation.
The weight put of the shelf vs osce vs clinical evals depends on the rotation.