Third year grades...

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Do the gunners honor in everything?
Nope. Don't gun your classmates...my class was told by several rotation directors that residents and attendings know exactly what gunners are doing and it can seriously backfire. If you see your fellow med studenst as part of your medical team rather than as your competition, things will go much better for you and them.
 
I think 3rd year grades can be ridiculously subjective! Just work hard and do your best, and don't worry about grades so much!
 
I think 3rd year grades can be ridiculously subjective! Just work hard and do your best, and don't worry about grades so much!


You can definitely see on some of the threads in the Clinical Rotations forum how true this is. Just have fun, work hard, and read about your patients...the rest should work out.
 
I have just started M3 year, so take my words with a grain of salt, and please correct me if Im wrong. As far as I know, most students receive Bs, and everyone starts out with a B by default. If you do very poorly, without doing anything seriously unprofessional or not studying or having several unexcused absences, then you will get a C. If you are absolutely OUTSTANDING, then you will get an A.

The vast majority of the students will get Bs as long as they dont stand out in a bad way. However, if Evals are good, then it will really enhance your residency applications.
 
people use the term "gunners" in different ways... students who are competitive and who try to show off usually don't fare well in clerkships. students that are disconcertingly enthusiastic and bring in articles all the time tend to get pretty good evals (i think, anyway). of course, some get all A's by doing good work, showing some enthusiasm, and quickly figuring out what everyone's expectations are (which is what i personally advocate).

a resident once told me... "your goal is to help the residents out. you save us time, we like you and make you look good to the attending. they always ask the residents before writing evals anyway." it's probably somewhat paraphrased rather than quoted, but it's true in my experience. help the team out and the team will help you back.
 
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