Those who scored 11s/12s in science sections, what % did you get for TBR?

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Title says it all. I have been scoring roughly 70% in my TBR chapters. I was wondering if that meant that I could possibly get a 11/12 on these science sections. I took the mcat in the summer and only made a 30: 10/10/10. I want a 33+ on the mcat so I have to study for a retake. Please help, I don't know if my current schedule with TBR is working.
 
Im super curious to know this too. I average around 70% on the GC and physics passages (GC being a little better for me) and average a little less than 70% on the bio passages...The bio passages can get really rough in TBR..
 
Im super curious to know this too. I average around 70% on the GC and physics passages (GC being a little better for me) and average a little less than 70% on the bio passages...The bio passages can get really rough in TBR..

Yea bio in TBR is really tough. I think because their passages are based on their own content, which go into very much detail.
 
Yea bio in TBR is really tough. I think because their passages are based on their own content, which go into very much detail.

lol thats whats funny. Im doing a modified version of SN2's schedule, ive already read the EK bio book like 10 times. So now instead of using EK bio for content im also using tbr bio for content as well as passages. They throw some things in their questions that ive never even heard of before. Some TBR bio passages ill do alright on, others i get completely blind sided because of random facts that i didnt know.

also on a side note their percent to scaled score conversions is crazy harsh for their bio..Like do people honestly even get close to the 13-15 range for tbr bio? cause i never have...
 
lol thats whats funny. Im doing a modified version of SN2's schedule, ive already read the EK bio book like 10 times. So now instead of using EK bio for content im also using tbr bio for content as well as passages. They throw some things in their questions that ive never even heard of before. Some TBR bio passages ill do alright on, others i get completely blind sided because of random facts that i didnt know.

also on a side note their percent to scaled score conversions is crazy harsh for their bio..Like do people honestly even get close to the 13-15 range for tbr bio? cause i never have...

I don't like their grading system because you try to aim for certain amount of questions to get in the top range (13-15) but when it comes to AAMCs and FLs...u realize that u gotta miss less than 5-6 questions to get just a 12 or 13 ...but in TBR, you can miss like 13 questions and still get a 12 or something
 
I don't like their grading system because you try to aim for certain amount of questions to get in the top range (13-15) but when it comes to AAMCs and FLs...u realize that u gotta miss less than 5-6 questions to get just a 12 or 13 ...but in TBR, you can miss like 13 questions and still get a 12 or something

I think the actual MCAT is a lot more lenient than the grading scales for AAMC tests. for example, my first mcat I only really answered like the first 26 bio questions seriously. The second half I answered without even reading the passage and just reading the question and still made a 6 on bio (guessed because I knew I was screwed by then), lol. the first half that I did answer I wasnt even all that confident on. On the AAMCs a 6 is generally 26-28 right, and I didn't think I even got close to that right, unless im a crazy good guesser.
 
The best that I can do on any TBR chapter is a 70-73 percent correct. I have done all 10 chapters in physics, 3 chapters in bio, 1 chapter in orgo, and 6 chapters in Gen Chem, and I did 7-8 passages per chapter under timed conditions and only averaged 70% on ALL of them. Am I screwed? First time on my MCAT I did NO PRACTICE except 8 AAMC tests. Now with all this practice, I am only getting 70% right, which means I am around a 10-11 on all these chapters. FML............🙁

Anyone average 70%, what did they score on the actual thing?

BTW my diagnostic kaplan MCAT score was a 25:
BS: 9
V: 8
PS: 8

If I don't improve 10 points from my kaplan diagnostic after all has been said and done, I am going to flip the **** out.
 
I was getting about 5/7 or 6/7 with a rare 7/7 or 2-3/7. I ended up with a 15 and 13 on my PS and BS, so I wouldn't worry about BR scores. Getting 70% right on TBR sounds like you're in the double digit category.

TBR questions and passages will prepare you really well for what to expect on the MCAT. The questions don't look similar to aamc at face value but the way they make you think was exactly what I needed to get ready. Learning to think in a POE frame of mind is critical and as long as you're learning to do that from TBR practice materials you'll be fine.
 
I never got a 7/7 on TBR bio, but I sure got a lot of 0/7. Looking back, I only got slightly more than half correct. I sure did learn a lot though, especially from reading the answer explanations.

Those books are meant for review & learning, not score prediction. As long as you are learning, it is time and money well spent.
 
I never got a 7/7 on TBR bio, but I sure got a lot of 0/7. Looking back, I only got slightly more than half correct. I sure did learn a lot though, especially from reading the answer explanations.

Those books are meant for review & learning, not score prediction. As long as you are learning, it is time and money well spent.

What did you score on the bio section?
 
Swagster and MT Headed. What were you scoring on the EK Bio Lecture Tests in the back of the book. I took 2 of them today. Got a 12 on one, but then a 10 on the other 🙁

I decided that instead of doing TBR practice problems for Bio since they seem to be ALL over the place, I decided to do practice using EK Bio Lecture Tests and then kaplan topical tests for Bio and kaplan BS section tests. I will def. finish all the kaplan topical bio tests and try to get 80+ right on them.
 
EK+TPR+TBR can get you a 12+ IMO...but it's easy to say b/c it takes a lot of time to go through them

I did every ek 1001 bio question, read the ek bio book like 7 times already, prob more. Working on TBR, didn't like TPR bio book..the in text questions are so distracting, lol. But im about to go further into their science workbook...I just need a 30 on my mcat and ill be good. Verbal im not worried about, PS i should be ok, bio may be my undoing, lol.
 
Did audio osmosis really help?

Yes it really did. I have some long & lonely drives here in Montana and I could listen to about 3/4 of a subject in one drive. I'm dead serious when I say I listened to the complete series twenty times and still have it memorized word for word.

EK audio osmosis helped before I took the pre-reqs and it helped when I was taking the classes. I tried listening to it at home when I was studying for the MCAT too, but when sitting still even listening to one chapter always put me to sleep.

I didn't fully understand the EK Organic Chemistry audio lectures until the week before my OChem 2 final!
 
Swagster and MT Headed. What were you scoring on the EK Bio Lecture Tests in the back of the book. I took 2 of them today. Got a 12 on one, but then a 10 on the other 🙁

I answered this in a PM, but I actually did quite well on the EK bio mid-chapter quizzes and end of chapter tests, missing one or at the most two questions per chapter. I never bothered translating that into the 1-15 scale, it seemed kind of pointless.
 
i picture MT headed as a grizzly rural Montana badass that hunts his own food and wrestles bears for fun.
 
Yes it really did. I have some long & lonely drives here in Montana and I could listen to about 3/4 of a subject in one drive. I'm dead serious when I say I listened to the complete series twenty times and still have it memorized word for word.

EK audio osmosis helped before I took the pre-reqs and it helped when I was taking the classes. I tried listening to it at home when I was studying for the MCAT too, but when sitting still even listening to one chapter always put me to sleep.

I didn't fully understand the EK Organic Chemistry audio lectures until the week before my OChem 2 final!

hmm ok thanks for the input...I'll look into it
 
I think EK is much better than TBR for Bio. Don't waste your valuable time on TBR bio - i would say 30% just isn't relevant for the MCAT. EK sticks much closer to the test.
 
TBR is great and weird, just like the MCAT but don't take the results from the passages too serious. The full length aamc test results will be much more accurate!
 
😕

Seriously?

Yea. Sorry if I disappointed you 🙁 I really tried to get the 15, but somehow got only a 14. Just kidding... but just goes to show you that ur % on the passages are not that important. Try to really learn from your mistakes and if you go through the book meticulously as intended, you will be well prepared for anything that can show up on the MCAT.
 
I got a 13 on BS, and would get 80%-90% on TBR physio, and 70-80% on non-physio TBR stuff. I actually switched over to TPRH bio fairly early on, because TBR bio seemed less relevent. I would use it for supplementation purposes, on sub-topics you're having a harder time with.
 
Yea. Sorry if I disappointed you 🙁 I really tried to get the 15, but somehow got only a 14. Just kidding... but just goes to show you that ur % on the passages are not that important. Try to really learn from your mistakes and if you go through the book meticulously as intended, you will be well prepared for anything that can show up on the MCAT.

Nah, I wasn't disappointed, just confused; though your explanation does make sense.

It's pretty clear some of these questions in Bio are absurd and would never show up on an actual MCAT, but pouring through the answer explanations (meticulously was a good way of putting it) has taught me a **** ton of biology so far.

It's a pretty humbling experience though -- I thought I knew a lot of biology, but some of these passages are beating me up.
 
Know everything in the EK Bio book and I'm sure you can get at least a 13. The only reason I didn't get a 15 was due to a few discretes that tested super specific details. I looked in the EK Bio book for those details, and they were in italics, which they say you don't have to memorize. But just know everything in the book and you'll be fine.
 
TBR Bio is funny, I did a passage today where I would have never gotten the answer because of how nit picky the detail was...I read EK for Bio, flip through the correlating TBR chapter for missed points and do passages from both, more than enough IMO.
 
I got fed up with the excessive detail in the TBR bio sections after I began taking full lengths and realized that very little of it was actually necessary to learn. EK bio was definitely sufficient. That said, I'm sure you'd be in great shape for the BS if you managed to wade through all of that material.

On the physics and gen chem I probably averaged around 60-70%, with a good number of 5/5 and 2/5 type passages on either side.

On the real test I got 14PS and 13BS.
 
I got fed up with the excessive detail in the TBR bio sections after I began taking full lengths and realized that very little of it was actually necessary to learn. EK bio was definitely sufficient. That said, I'm sure you'd be in great shape for the BS if you managed to wade through all of that material.

On the physics and gen chem I probably averaged around 60-70%, with a good number of 5/5 and 2/5 type passages on either side.

On the real test I got 14PS and 13BS.

Same here. Used the same strategies for both sections as you did, got the same scores.
 
Im actually using TBR bio for content review as well as passages..but thats mainly because ive read EK bio several several times. Also if you dont use tbr for content review then you're going to miss some of the questions on TBR bio passages.
 
I'd say I was probably getting around 50-60% on Bio problems. Man, they were super hard for me. All the other subjects, it was probably around 70%.

If you went by their phases... I was doing progressively worse because Phase III passages were more difficult and some time had passed since going over the topic.

I scored 11 on BS and 12 on PS

Just make sure you LEARN from the mistakes rather than worry about what % to post on SDN. I know it's tempting to "show off" on SDN but the only thing that matters is happily posting your 30+ scores on the "xx/xx/2012 MCAT Thread" 😀
 
this thread makes me so much less stressed.

seriously though some of the tbr stuff is outrageously difficult.
 
TBR questions and passages will prepare you really well for what to expect on the MCAT. The questions don't look similar to aamc at face value but the way they make you think was exactly what I needed to get ready. Learning to think in a POE frame of mind is critical and as long as you're learning to do that from TBR practice materials you'll be fine.

Those books are meant for review & learning, not score prediction. As long as you are learning, it is time and money well spent.

Try to really learn from your mistakes and if you go through the book meticulously as intended, you will be well prepared for anything that can show up on the MCAT.

Just make sure you LEARN from the mistakes rather than worry about what % to post on SDN. I know it's tempting to "show off" on SDN but the only thing that matters is happily posting your 30+ scores on the "xx/xx/2012 MCAT Thread" 😀

I just wanted to post some of the great comments here that will hopefully put some perspective of preparation. These are from people who got stratospheric scores, and they're all saying something similar. Don't worry about scores so much; worry about learning. It's not about how you are doing, but how you're going to do. Ever noticed that championship teams have flubs in the early and middle parts of the season, but come playoffs they're hitting on all cylinders? That's preparation at its finest. Don't worry so much about your scores on homework sets. Worry about how you'd do if you saw the question again on your test. Learn from your homework how to take the test more time efficiently, using POE and inutition.
 
I'm retaking and I've just started doing TBR.

I'm getting my ass kicked on the GC and Orgo passages. Honestly, I think for orgo, it might be beneficial to read through the kaplan or EK orgo books first before hitting the TBR orgo.

The TBR draws from things that haven't been covered yet that a cursory reading of EK would help with. I think I might spend my weekend going through the EK book so I can get more out of TBR.

(I.e. not feel like a total idiot.)
 
I'm retaking and I've just started doing TBR.

I'm getting my ass kicked on the GC and Orgo passages.

I got pwned by TBR bio but still got an 11.

My score at the end was a 34. 12/11/11. I used tbr for bs and ps. Don't regret it. Not even a little bit.

It's a very zen 'cry in the dojo, laugh on the battlefield' mentality.

This was really nice to read. As hard as you worked both times, I'm glad the second sitting panned out so well.
 
Got 11 on both PS and BS. I completed all tbr phys, gen chem and bio. On TBR gen chem and phys I got average of mid 70's. Some sections slightly better, a few much worse (60s). Bio I got average mid 80s. A couple of low 90s and very few 70s. I totally messed up on orgo, and I got hit with 2.5 passages on the real thing that destroyed my better score hopes. I also realistically believe I could have done better on PS, but I didn't. My point is I think if you score 70s on tbr you are well set for 10/11+ no prob. Good luck
 
Phase I; Phase II; Phase III

Physics: ~63%; ~75%; ~80%
Gchem: ~65; ~76;~81%
Orgo: ~84%;~87%;~92%
Bio: ~61%; ~73%;~87%
 
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