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Did he ever claim that was his? It's a lot easier to find a pic online than to bother taking one, moving it to a computer, censoring it, and uploading it...and at that point, it'd just look generic anyway. I just took it as a celebratory signature, similar to "Med school class of 2012!!!" lines.

Thanks for the understanding. Thanks to those who appreciated my original post. Have a good night.
 
Did he ever claim that was his? It's a lot easier to find a pic online than to bother taking one, moving it to a computer, censoring it, and uploading it...and at that point, it'd just look generic anyway. I just took it as a celebratory signature, similar to "Med school class of 2012!!!" lines.

I want you to reread what he said.

At least in my eyes, there is absolutely no point in posting a picture of a random sample acceptance letter from the school's main website, when putting this picture into the context of what he said.

Here, I'll make it easier for you to reread:

Just to show that not everyone wanting to help or contribute is a troll. My apology for having written what I hope would be an inspirational thread. Have a good one.


I don't know how posting a picture everyone has access to proves that you're "less" of a troll. The context of the picture didn't make sense to me, so I questioned him on it.

Again, I'm not calling him out on being a troll, but the picture of the letter was obviously not his, so I didn't see the point of posting it.
 
Your point?

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Not to try to call you out OP, but a simple Google Images of "Medical School Acceptance Letter" will yield that same picture.

~uvmpr


http://www.uvm.edu/~uvmpr/?Page=news&storyID=13275

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Did he ever claim that was his? It's a lot easier to find a pic online than to bother taking one, moving it to a computer, censoring it, and uploading it...and at that point, it'd just look generic anyway. I just took it as a celebratory signature, similar to "Med school class of 2012!!!" lines.

Whether or not he was accepted is not what I'm talking about. I just don't understand why he had to remove the entire post because of one typo. It just seems waaaaaay too defensive.
 
Thanks for the understanding. Thanks to those who appreciated my original post. Have a good night.

Meh; I don't really understand you at all. I have no idea why you let a few skeptics (who had legitimate questions, esp with the typo) run you off this thread. I have no idea why you seem to primarily respond to the negative posts, and I have no problem giving you grief about that. I just don't feel like bashing everything you ever posted because there was doubt about the OP.

I'd rather look stupid for trusting a troll a few times than constantly overanalyze every post in an attempt to 'catch a troll'. FWIW, I don't think you are one. I just think you're too willing to take offense, which is a shame for you and means I don't get to read the original story, which as a low-GPA applicant myself, I'd like to see.
 
Meh; I don't really understand you at all. I have no idea why you let a few skeptics (who had legitimate questions, esp with the typo) run you off this thread. I have no idea why you seem to primarily respond to the negative posts, and I have no problem giving you grief about that. I just don't feel like bashing everything you ever posted because there was doubt about the OP.

I'd rather look stupid for trusting a troll a few times than constantly overanalyze every post in an attempt to 'catch a troll'. FWIW, I don't think you are one. I just think you're too willing to take offense, which is a shame for you and means I don't get to read the original story, which as a low-GPA applicant myself, I'd like to see.

His main point was that he worked hard and got As in all of his courses except for a single B- after his GPA fiasco his freshman year. The typo was that he had a 2.5 GPA at the end of his sophomore year when according to his revised post that's the GPA he had at the end of his freshman year and not sophomore. Basically work hard and try to strive for all As..

I, on the other hand had a 32 MCAT and a 3.47 GPA and still couldn't garner a single MD acceptance hence why I'm at a DO school now...
 
His main point was that he worked hard and got As in all of his courses except for a single B- after his GPA fiasco his freshman year. The typo was that he had a 2.5 GPA at the end of his sophomore year when according to his revised post that's the GPA he had at the end of his freshman year and not sophomore. Basically work hard and try to strive for all As..

I, on the other hand had a 32 MCAT and a 3.47 GPA and still couldn't garner a single MD acceptance hence why I'm at a DO school now...

Right, I put that much together from the thread...I'm assuming he put '2 years' instead of '2 semesters'?

I'm just saying he had no reason to delete and act scandalized. The backlash was pretty tame, actually. And I like positive stories...I've got a long way to go and they help me at least pretend I have a shot!
 
Why are you only quoting the cynical posts? Jeez man, if you wanna be inspirational and/or help the less-cynical crowd, why are you only paying attention to the critics?

You had a typo that made your story (which was already incredible) borderline impossible.
People were skeptical; can you blame them?
But then...instead of simply fixing the typo, you withdrew the entire post. That makes exactly zero sense, and it's a shame if you can only take notice of the more (they weren't even mean) negative posts.

I'm getting pretty wary of OP for overreacting to skepticism by first deleting his post instead of fixing the typo, and to quote mine and two other rather cynical posts to make his point. Somehow, op is actually testing us. Why would anyone care how people would teact on how he got the acceptance? If it was legit, we would be happy and amazed, but OP damaged his credibility by deleting his post and trying to start a battle between us here. At least he could prove the naysayers wrong by restoring the old post... Let's see how this goes
 
I definitely hope my experience to getting accepted to an allopathic medical school inspires others who got off to a rough start in college, or are thinking about giving up... It was a hard path. It wasn't not easy. I didn't get much rest, I felt like giving up sometimes, and I cried sometimes (embarrassing maybe).

In the first year of college, I didn't know what I wanted to do as a freshman, but I kept on going hoping I would find something I am passionate about. After my first year, I ended up with:

-2.2 sGPA
-2.5 overall GPA
-Basically, mostly C's
-No activities, extracurricular, etc.

Afterwards, I went through a personal experience and decided to become a physician. I met people who said I should give up, that I did enough damage and focus my time on becoming a PhD in science related field, or focus on another major. I pushed through and kicked myself till I gave everything my best effort. As cliche as it may sound, there is no secret formula.

The hardship didn't end there. I faced huge difficulty on the MCAT when I wanted to take it and ended up with

-Composite: 24N (Verbal 6, Phys 8, Biol 10)
-Raised it to a 32R (10, 10, 12)


1- Raise your GPA, no sob stories or excuses: The interviewer (practicing physician) called me after my acceptance and said you have showed the committee more willpower and change than anyone we have ever seen. If curious, I ended up raising my GPA to a 3.79 (full load summer semesters, B- in only one course). Its easy to talk about your GPA problems with advisers, or talk to a friend who will make you feel better- BUT that won't change the effort or actual grades you earn unless you simply spend hours studying. Labor away in the library, no socializing during that time or facebook- just hardcore studying.

Yes, we all mess up; its not the end of the world. I scored the highest score on a biology exam after coming to the new semester because I wanted it more than anything.

2- Hit the MCAT hard- do whatever it takes: After my first MCAT, I felt like a complete failure. As I learned from the dean of admissions, although many students may have amazing activities, the aptitude to handle the rigorous medical program is a must (MCAT, GPA).

After finishing my junior year, I thought that since I was doing so great in classes, I could definitely score a 35 or something on the MCAT. It is a different type of test, it assesses how well you're "endurance" is, broad critical thinking, functioning under pressure, and most importantly ability to relate scientific thinking.

3- Get INVOLVED, not a fake non-leadership membership in your school's premedical club: I got involved with many hospitals and organizations. I volunteered at 3 different hospitals, helped out in community centers, etc. Do it because you never know what experience may actually have a profound impact on you. As bored as it may get restocking carts etc., it truly serves a purpose in my opinion.

4- Exercise the mentality: No matter what you do, you can always be better. I booked an appointment with a former admissions dean after all my "accomplishments", she simply grilled me and left me feeling worthless quite honestly.

Although I disagreed with her approach, it engraved in me that I can always be better no what how good I think I am (not just academically, or even medical school-related). She pushed me so hard, I took myself to another level. We waste hours on TV, facebook. Use that time to do great things- start a charity group for a cause you like!

5- Be HUMBLE: It doesn't matter if you get a 4.0 or think you're somehow guaranteed to become a med student, remember that there were 40,000+ student who applied last year. Positive modesty keeps things in check, it pushes you forward.

I really hasn't sunk in that I've actually been accepted into medical school. I realize it's only the beginning of a path, but I'm glad my effort has paid effort. I hope this inspires anyone who got off to a rough spot, or is simply going through a rough patch.

Never Give Up! Class of 2017!!

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Did he ever claim that was his? It's a lot easier to find a pic online than to bother taking one, moving it to a computer, censoring it, and uploading it...and at that point, it'd just look generic anyway. I just took it as a celebratory signature, similar to "Med school class of 2012!!!" lines.

lol what? this doesn't make any sense


In any case, a lot of you need to work on your trolldar

I mean seriously, a kid who started his first year with a 2.5 is going to get straight A's for 3 years in a row, including summers with a heavier courseload and more advanced classes? Please.
 
lol what? this doesn't make any sense


In any case, a lot of you need to work on your trolldar

I mean seriously, a kid who started his first year with a 2.5 is going to get straight A's for 3 years in a row, including summers with a heavier courseload and more advanced classes? Please.

All I'm saying is that OP never claimed it was an original photo, and there was no reason for it to be. So people going 'Aaahh! Troll! That's a stock photo, not real!' don't make much sense to me, because the pic was never presented as OP's actual acceptance letter. People often act like ferreting out a troll proves their own intelligence or something, and it's just unnecessary.

Do I think it's possible for a 'C' student to become an 'A' student? Yeah. Common, no, but that's what makes it an interesting story. Is it possible that it's untrue? Yeah, but if the take-home message is 'if you screw up, work your @$$ off to do better in the future', who cares? It's plausible and it shows a point that's useful to everyone, cuz even if they don't screw up badly enough to get a 2.5, most people slip up somewhere.

It'd be one thing if the OP was using this story as fuel for a "Ha! I showed you losers, you said I would fail forever!" type post, or made some strange connection like "Coursework only gets easier throughout college, so even if you tank freshman year, just keep doing what you're doing and your grades will improve; profs are nicer to upperclassmen" or something else blatantly untrue or unhelpful. But he wasn't, so why is everyone so eager to scream 'troll'?

At the end of the day, very few stories on SDN can be verified, and it all comes down to judgement. However, the point of the forum isn't to categorically document all the true facts about individual apps, or to verify the veracity of claims that don't affect anyone else's life at all. It's to provide advice, give people a larger pool of people (with a diverse range of experiences) to discuss the process with, and share stories that serve as either warnings or inspiration. This post was a part of that, whether it was a true story or not.

At some point, 'trolldars' cause more inconvenience/distraction than they prevent. All the troll proofs were in this case more annoying/unhelpful than the story, whether it was true or false (posts asking for clarification about the typo are a different matter), though the problem was definitely amplified by the OP's oversensitivity to doubt and negativity on the internet. So, no...I don't feel the need to fix my trolldar :laugh:
 
All I'm saying is that OP never claimed it was an original photo, and there was no reason for it to be. So people going 'Aaahh! Troll! That's a stock photo, not real!' don't make much sense to me, because the pic was never presented as OP's actual acceptance letter. People often act like ferreting out a troll proves their own intelligence or something, and it's just unnecessary.

The OP, in context, did claim that this was his letter. I was merely bringing up this fact.

What Kpcrew meant was that your reasoning made absolutely no sense. His post was titled "Acceptance Letter". Tell me: What's the point of posting a random sample acceptance letter, given the context of the situation and his post? A signature? Doesn't make sense, given what he said. A way to celebrate? Doesn't make sense, given what he said.

He didn't say "I dont' care! I'm a medical student!" He said something along the lines of "This is for all those who thought I was trolling! It's an acceptance letter! BUT I'm censoring it because it's private information, even though it was clearly posted by the school website."

You seem to be too eager to play Devil's advocate, looking at some of your posts on recent threads. Take some time to breathe and analyze the situation more carefully before you make claims.
 
The OP, in context, did claim that this was his letter. I was merely bringing up this fact.

What Kpcrew meant was that your reasoning made absolutely no sense. His post was titled "Acceptance Letter". Tell me: What's the point of posting a random sample acceptance letter, given the context of the situation and his post? A signature? Doesn't make sense, given what he said. A way to celebrate? Doesn't make sense, given what he said.

He didn't say "I dont' care! I'm a medical student!" He said something along the lines of "This is for all those who thought I was trolling! It's an acceptance letter! BUT I'm censoring it because it's private information, even though it was clearly posted by the school website."

You seem to be too eager to play Devil's advocate, looking at some of your posts on recent threads. Take some time to breathe and analyze the situation more carefully before you make claims.

No, fair enough...I did misread that acceptance letter post. I'd explain exactly how I misread it, but it'd just be some convoluted stream-of-consciousness nonsensical post, haha!

And yes, my recent posts have happened to put me in the Devil's advocate role, but I stand by what I posted (except the bit about the acceptance letter pic, obvi). The "anti-troll" mentality can be taken too far, and be annoying in its own right. I'll admit, there are some really obvious troll threads where flaming is just fun, and I join those as often as anyone else, but even there, I think it's a bit extreme to call for irl consequences just because someone was annoying on the internet (for anyone else, this is not relevant to the current thread, this is from other recent posts, and I'm not trying to claim that anyone did that here).

Anyway, thanks again for pointing out the parts of the acceptance letter pic that I utterly failed to notice...you're spot on on that part. I just feel as if this could easily have been a quiet, non-contentious thread if
a) people weren't so eager to call troll with minimal provocation
b) OP had thicker skin
c) I learned reading comprehension

Sorry if it seemed as if I was simply trying to start an argument...
 
Anyway, thanks again for pointing out the parts of the acceptance letter pic that I utterly failed to notice...you're spot on on that part. I just feel as if this could easily have been a quiet, non-contentious thread if
a) people weren't so eager to call troll with minimal provocation
b) OP had thicker skin
c) I learned reading comprehension

I agree with A but I'd like to think that I've been on the internet long enough to have seen quite a few shops in my time.
 
I agree with A but I'd like to think that I've been on the internet long enough to have seen quite a few shops in my time.

Haha, A is primarily pre-photo.
B is self-explanatory and C is me agreeing that post with the letter pic was trolly , sorry for my confusing post on that 😳

Who knew? 🙄
Well played OP for getting a naive member on your defense and pitching him/her against us.

I still think that, other than the letter tangent which I admit I misread, it's more of a waste to call this a troll than to roll with it. If that's naive, I prefer it...I would think that if an intended 'troll' post ends up giving decent advice and not being disruptive, the joke is more on the troller than the audience :laugh:
 
Well this thread took a sudden twist.
 

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