Thread for People With No Interviews as of December

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Okay, I'm in absolute panic mode. I have applied to all of the in-state schools in Florida for which I felt competitive and I have not received ANY interviews yet. Am I alone? My numbers are about average, maybe on the low end of average, but I have worked as a Medical Assistant and phlebotomist for 2+ years and I worked in the Department of Surgery 30+ hrs/wk while in undergrad. I'm working full-time now and have been trying to keep my mind off of worrying about my lack of interviews.

Misery loves company, right? 🙂 Who else here is still hanging in suspense? Do any of you wonderful current med students have words of wisdom?

Best of luck, y'all!
 
When were you complete? Have you sent any update or interest letters?
 
Patience is a virtue.


Okay, I'm in absolute panic mode. I have applied to all of the in-state schools in Florida for which I felt competitive and I have not received ANY interviews yet. Am I alone? My numbers are about average, maybe on the low end of average, but I have worked as a Medical Assistant and phlebotomist for 2+ years and I worked in the Department of Surgery 30+ hrs/wk while in undergrad. I'm working full-time now and have been trying to keep my mind off of worrying about my lack of interviews.

Misery loves company, right? 🙂 Who else here is still hanging in suspense? Do any of you wonderful current med students have words of wisdom?

Best of luck, y'all!
 
Complete back in August, mostly. I have not sent any updates, because I'm not doing anything different from what I was doing when I submitted - working full-time as a Medical Assistant. Do you think a letter of interest would be a good idea? I always assumed that my interest was pretty evident as I spent a bunch of money to apply. :laugh:

And I try to be patient! 🙂 It's easier said than done, though.
 
You say this, then you also say stuff like "less than 15% of spots are available at this moment"

You can see how we still feel slightly flustered

*plugs ears*
Nope. Nope. Not listening to that.
 
Did you also apply to a broad number of schools out of state, too?
 
Did you also apply to a broad number of schools out of state, too?
I did not, actually. Finances made that a little hard this cycle. I'm saving up money to be able to apply to more schools if need be next year. I only applied to 6 MD schools and one DO school, all in Florida.
 
I did not, actually. Finances made that a little hard this cycle. I'm saving up money to be able to apply to more schools if need be next year. I only applied to 6 MD schools and one DO school, all in Florida.

Yeah, that's rough. I wish you the best of luck and that you won't have to do another cycle.
 
I did not, actually. Finances made that a little hard this cycle. I'm saving up money to be able to apply to more schools if need be next year. I only applied to 6 MD schools and one DO school, all in Florida.

But if you can't afford the application fees to a reasonable number of schools, how will you afford the hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition and other costs of medical school.......? Did you apply for the FAP?
 
But if you can't afford the application fees to a reasonable number of schools, how will you afford the hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition and other costs of medical school.......? Did you apply for the FAP?

Federal loans pay for most of us going to medical school. Either in part or in whole.

Many people don't feel comfortable going into credit card debt/taking out a private loan to apply to a ton of schools where the chances of having it be a wasted investment are fairly high. If you're already in a poor financial situation, the prospect of borrowing thousands more isn't too appealing.

And then there's the large amount of people who don't qualify for FAP, like myself, but certainly have difficulty affording the application process, since those application fees you mentioned are outrageous.
 
I'm not sure why people think that it is easy to live in FL. I only have one IS interview invite as well and I have many friends who have one FL interview or zero. It is very competitive in the state of Florida. I hope that you get interviews soon though!
 
Maryland, Florida, California. They get so many applicants from OOS or don't have a state-imposed quota for how many IS/OOS students they have to accept so these state schools do not show very much IS love lol I would hang in there though, if you're an average applicant (as you said) they're probably gonna wait to invite you until all the higher stat and above average applicants are over with. This is how people get those Spring interviews. I'm hoping for one from my state school too cuz I'd like that IS tuition lol good luck to you!
 
I did not, actually. Finances made that a little hard this cycle. I'm saving up money to be able to apply to more schools if need be next year. I only applied to 6 MD schools and one DO school, all in Florida.
That is not a lot of schools.
Are you a good candidate, per mission (ECs), stats and PS, for all of them?
 
Last year I applied to only in-state (mostly because I took my mcat in August and knew I was late), didn't get in anywhere.
This year I applied broadly, got 3 interviews (none in-state) and chose to go to a school across the country.

I hear of a lot of people afraid to leave their home state and they only apply in state, personally I just feel like you're setting yourself up for failure doing that.
 
I used credit cards for a lot of my applications and interview expenses, already have most paid off
 
Bro, fellow FL resident here.

I've only gotten one interview invite (from a FL school). So much for that (apparently heavy) in-state love, huh? 🙁

I was in your position. I had quite a few OOS interviews but only 2 FL school interviews (Both wait lists). I ended up lucky getting into 1 last minute. If you're waitlisted, don't give up hope of getting off the waitlist!

I did not, actually. Finances made that a little hard this cycle. I'm saving up money to be able to apply to more schools if need be next year. I only applied to 6 MD schools and one DO school, all in Florida.

My advice is to definitely expand that list by a lot and be ready to have to move out. Average number of schools people apply to is about ~15 and about ~50% of Florida premeds end up having to go OOS. As someone said, FL isn't like Texas and only requires about ~65% of students to be in state. It sucks, but FL has A LOT of state colleges and a few of them have a large number of students attending them (I believe FIU and UCF have one of the largest student populations in the US). I got more love from schools that I thought were outside chances than most FL schools which aren't even ranked/ranked highly 😕
 
Federal loans pay for most of us going to medical school. Either in part or in whole.

Many people don't feel comfortable going into credit card debt/taking out a private loan to apply to a ton of schools where the chances of having it be a wasted investment are fairly high. If you're already in a poor financial situation, the prospect of borrowing thousands more isn't too appealing.

And then there's the large amount of people who don't qualify for FAP, like myself, but certainly have difficulty affording the application process, since those application fees you mentioned are outrageous.

Bingo. You totally get how I feel! <3 I get a little peeved when people insist "Well, how will you pay for medical school if you can't afford to apply?!" I just paid thousands of dollars for the MCAT, prep classes, general applications, secondary applications, DO applications, DO secondaries - man, my credit is MAXED out. I guess I was kinda wimpy only applying to a handful of schools - if I have to re-apply, at least I know now how expensive it really is, and can potentially take out a private loan to cover it. Still, owch. 🙁

Bro, fellow FL resident here.

I've only gotten one interview invite (from a FL school). So much for that (apparently heavy) in-state love, huh? 🙁

I hear ya. But good luck! 🙂 I'm jealous of your one interview invite, hope ya nail it! One is all you need, really. 😉

I'm not sure why people think that it is easy to live in FL. I only have one IS interview invite as well and I have many friends who have one FL interview or zero. It is very competitive in the state of Florida. I hope that you get interviews soon though!

Thank you, best of luck to you too! Hearing from people who don't have many IS interviews makes me feel at least a little better.

Maryland, Florida, California. They get so many applicants from OOS or don't have a state-imposed quota for how many IS/OOS students they have to accept so these state schools do not show very much IS love lol I would hang in there though, if you're an average applicant (as you said) they're probably gonna wait to invite you until all the higher stat and above average applicants are over with. This is how people get those Spring interviews. I'm hoping for one from my state school too cuz I'd like that IS tuition lol good luck to you!

Man, IS tuition is looking so attractive right now. Good luck to you too!

I was in your position. I had quite a few OOS interviews but only 2 FL school interviews (Both wait lists). I ended up lucky getting into 1 last minute. If you're waitlisted, don't give up hope of getting off the waitlist!

My advice is to definitely expand that list by a lot and be ready to have to move out. Average number of schools people apply to is about ~15 and about ~50% of Florida premeds end up having to go OOS. As someone said, FL isn't like Texas and only requires about ~65% of students to be in state. It sucks, but FL has A LOT of state colleges and a few of them have a large number of students attending them (I believe FIU and UCF have one of the largest student populations in the US). I got more love from schools that I thought were outside chances than most FL schools which aren't even ranked/ranked highly 😕

Yeah, I had always thought that the in-state love was the real deal, and if I were to only apply to a few places in-state seemed like the best choice. That, and I adore living in Florida. 😍 It really makes me so happy to hear about your waitlist luck though - I have friends on waitlists and I'm anxious for them, too!


Thanks all for the responses. 🙂
 
Thanks for making this thread. I am one of those who are still sitting at zero interviews at this time. How realistic can we expect to receive interview invites now and in jan? I am dying inside, having applied to 25+ schools with nothing but rejections, holds, and silence so far. Yes, my numbers are not stellar but I have great EC and I know I will be a successful med student. This is so hard to not lose hope.
 
December is too early to panic. . . Start making contingency plans around February or March.

If you want to satiate your neuroticism, go look at school specific threads from the 2013-2014 cycle and see where people stopped getting interview invites.
 
December is too early to panic. . . Start making contingency plans around February or March.

If you want to satiate your neuroticism, go look at school specific threads from the 2013-2014 cycle and see where people stopped getting interview invites.

I think you've been on SDN long enough to know that it's never too early to panic.

To the OP and others. I have a few II's, but got two more this week. I submitted my secondaries in mid august, so things are still getting reviewed and re-reviewed. One of the schools had a date in mid feb, the other gave me an interview date this monday...
 
I'm not sure why people think that it is easy to live in FL. I only have one IS interview invite as well and I have many friends who have one FL interview or zero. It is very competitive in the state of Florida. I hope that you get interviews soon though!

I don't know. My stats were pretty mediocre (3.31 GPA, 34 MCAT) and I ended up getting 3 II's to Florida schools (although one came in March). Maybe they just like veterans, lol..
 
FL resident checking in- no MD II, 3 DO II (2 accept, 1 waitlist). Applied to a very large range of schools because I am on the lower end stat wise.
 
I don't know. My stats were pretty mediocre (3.31 GPA, 34 MCAT) and I ended up getting 3 II's to Florida schools (although one came in March). Maybe they just like veterans, lol..
Your stats are not mediocre haha! At least in my opinion they aren't.🙂 But of course it'll change with people, nothing is consistent. But based on my experience and most of my friends (<33 MCAT), it has been a struggle for IS IIs. The people this cycle that I know who have 3 or more IS IIs all have 34+ MCAT (well-deserved of course assuming they are well-rounded), but it just shows how hard it is for the average Joe in FL.
 
Okay, I'm in absolute panic mode. I have applied to all of the in-state schools in Florida for which I felt competitive and I have not received ANY interviews yet. Am I alone? My numbers are about average, maybe on the low end of average, but I have worked as a Medical Assistant and phlebotomist for 2+ years and I worked in the Department of Surgery 30+ hrs/wk while in undergrad. I'm working full-time now and have been trying to keep my mind off of worrying about my lack of interviews.

Misery loves company, right? 🙂 Who else here is still hanging in suspense? Do any of you wonderful current med students have words of wisdom?

Best of luck, y'all!


Even though I wish you all the the best luck, It's good to know I'm not on this ship alone. I'm a FL resident with zero interviews. Nothing but rejections and pre-interview holds thus far. I even received a rejection earlier this week from one of my top prospects. This was major distraction as I am preparing for an mcat retake this Saturday Dec 6th. I wish you all the best of luck for the remainder of the cycle and realistically I think we still have legitimate chances of being accepted this cycle. Remember to apply to post bacc's just in case you do not get in this cycle.
 
Good luck everybody! 🙂 I'm so happy I'm not alone in this. I'm trying to keep positive. My "backup plan" is pretty much just to continue working full-time to get clinical experience and volunteering with orgs that are important to me. Post-bacc seems like a very expensive venture, and I truly am not really thrilled with paying $70k to get a degree or certificate that I don't intend to use :/ Is it possible to just take classes individually from a University post grad without being in an official post-bacc program?
 
Good luck everybody! 🙂 I'm so happy I'm not alone in this. I'm trying to keep positive. My "backup plan" is pretty much just to continue working full-time to get clinical experience and volunteering with orgs that are important to me. Post-bacc seems like a very expensive venture, and I truly am not really thrilled with paying $70k to get a degree or certificate that I don't intend to use :/ Is it possible to just take classes individually from a University post grad without being in an official post-bacc program?

Yeah, you can take non-degree classes at a local uni. It looks good if you do well. Keeping the clinical work and volunteering is a good idea as well.
 
I did not, actually. Finances made that a little hard this cycle. I'm saving up money to be able to apply to more schools if need be next year. I only applied to 6 MD schools and one DO school, all in Florida.

Have hope, last cycle I didn't have as impressive of an application as you and I only applied in state all 9 Florida schools and still ended up (around January-March) with an interview at both DO programs and 1 MD.. I didn't matriculate to any of them, but that's a different story..
 
FL resident here as well, 31 MCAT. Complete silence from all state MD schools and NSU, I've had more luck out of state with 1 MD waitlist and some DO II, but I really want to stay here...Hopefully come Jan, II will start to come to us with good, but lower than 34 MCATs.
 
FL resident here as well, 31 MCAT. Complete silence from all state MD schools and NSU, I've had more luck out of state with 1 MD waitlist and some DO II, but I really want to stay here...Hopefully come Jan, II will start to come to us with good, but lower than 34 MCATs.

Would you go to NSU?
 
Would you go to NSU?
I honestly don't know. I have nothing against DOs, I just want to be a physician. I have never visitied, so it would depend on whether I liked the school and where else I theoretically got in.
 
NY resident here and in the same boat as some of you fine Florida folks.

Post-bac, non-traditional with a 3.6 overall, 3.9 BCMP, 30 MCAT (9,9,12), 2+ years in clinical research with publications.

Applied to 30 schools (8 IS), 10 rejections, one hold (PSU) and zero invites.

Should I throw in the towel or what? When do the invites stop? February? March?
 
NY resident here and in the same boat as some of you fine Florida folks.

Post-bac, non-traditional with a 3.6 overall, 3.9 BCMP, 30 MCAT (9,9,12), 2+ years in clinical research with publications.

Applied to 30 schools (8 IS), 10 rejections, one hold (PSU) and zero invites.

Should I throw in the towel or what? When do the invites stop? February? March?
You can get invites until April. How are your ECs other than research? When did you do your secondaries? What OOS schools did you apply to? Your stats are good enough to get interviews!
 
Don't listen to sdn on this one. Tons of people don't have a lot of interviews and get in. Mine has a 60% chance post interview and I just got it this week. The dream is still alive!
 
You can get invites until April. How are your ECs other than research? When did you do your secondaries? What OOS schools did you apply to? Your stats are good enough to get interviews!

Here are my OOS that are still in play:

Rush
Creighton
Rosalind Franklin
Tufts
Stritch - Loyola
Vermont
Penn State
Colorado
Uillinois
Ohio St
Eastern Virgina
NW - Feinberg
Temple
Wake Forest

My ECs might not be the absolute best. I did a ton of shadowing, a member of the pre-medical society and did a fair amount of volunteering at my local ED. Hmmmm, maybe it's a bit lacking?

Secondaries were sent between beginning of July and end of August.

In the mean time I might throw a few island application in there. Need some backups to my backups.

Thanks all!
 
I've mentioned this before, but I'm a gray area candidate for many schools that I haven't heard from. I expect to hear something from schools that don't silent reject a couple of weeks after the secondary app close. I think the tail end of this is in early feb. If schools that have sent out rejections for people around your complete date are still holding your file, then they're playing it safe from their perspective and want to compare you to the last bit of the pool before making a decision on offering you a II.


I just feel like you're ambience yourself up for abortion accomplishing that.
fAw85J

What the heck are you smoking?
 
I still have about 20 MD apps out. Hoping for a Feb March interview. 🙂

I'm in a good place right now, but I haven't heard from 26 places. I'm under the impression that I have a shot at half those places. Still haven't heard from a ton of 'in my range' programs: Temple, jefferson, drexel, TCMC, EVMS, VCU, etc.
 
December is too early to panic. . . Start making contingency plans around February or March.

If you want to satiate your neuroticism, go look at school specific threads from the 2013-2014 cycle and see where people stopped getting interview invites.

Absolutely +1 to this. I have been worrying since I have only had 1 interview, 2 holds, 2 rejections and still waiting for 10 responses. Everyone in threads keep talking about "silent rejections" already But, when going over to last cycles school specifics, I immediately saw people talking about how they were complete in august and just got an II in LATE MARCH!! So now I am not nearly as worried about the 10 schools I am still waiting on. It's a long process, but its best to just focus on your work, keep an eye out and not think about it too much.
 
NY resident here and in the same boat as some of you fine Florida folks.

Post-bac, non-traditional with a 3.6 overall, 3.9 BCMP, 30 MCAT (9,9,12), 2+ years in clinical research with publications.

Applied to 30 schools (8 IS), 10 rejections, one hold (PSU) and zero invites.

Should I throw in the towel or what? When do the invites stop? February? March?

If you have no II by the end of February then it is not looking good in general. For now you are still fine, just check last cycles school specific threads for the schools you are curious about and you can see when people were still getting II's. Remember that silence at this point still means NOTHING for most schools.
 
NY resident here and in the same boat as some of you fine Florida folks.

Post-bac, non-traditional with a 3.6 overall, 3.9 BCMP, 30 MCAT (9,9,12), 2+ years in clinical research with publications.

Applied to 30 schools (8 IS), 10 rejections, one hold (PSU) and zero invites.

Should I throw in the towel or what? When do the invites stop? February? March?

Did you apply late? If you had your secondaries in by late August/early Sept, then no II's at all from 30 schools probably means there was a red flag in your application (factoring in your stats and the "tiers" of your remaining schools). Otherwise, you should have applied earlier with those stats. Sorry to be harsh, but mine are similar and I'm just speaking from personal experience as a re-applicant with no IIs last year.
 
Here are my OOS that are still in play:

Rush
Creighton
Rosalind Franklin
Tufts
Stritch - Loyola
Vermont
Penn State
Colorado
Uillinois
Ohio St
Eastern Virgina
NW - Feinberg
Temple
Wake Forest

My ECs might not be the absolute best. I did a ton of shadowing, a member of the pre-medical society and did a fair amount of volunteering at my local ED. Hmmmm, maybe it's a bit lacking?

Secondaries were sent between beginning of July and end of August.

In the mean time I might throw a few island application in there. Need some backups to my backups.

Thanks all!
I don't think you applied broadly enough, you also have a lot of reach schools/IS friendly schools on that list. Also do you have clinical volunteering with patients. That is the most important EC to have.
 
I don't think you applied broadly enough, you also have a lot of reach schools/IS friendly schools on that list. Also do you have clinical volunteering with patients. That is the most important EC to have.

You don't think 30 schools is broad enough? What?

But agree on the clinical experience being essential.
 
You don't think 30 schools is broad enough? What?

But agree on the clinical experience being essential.
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that. I mean based on your remaining schools it seems like you applied a bit top-heavy. I'm not sure of your other schools so I can't say for sure but just an observation.
 
Edit: I forgot to quote whoever this was meant to be in response to but I guess I'll leave it as a general post.

There's a broad spectrum of opinions on SDN. Some will say "You were completed in July and it's October and you don't have an II yet?! You should panic" Then on the other hand you have those who say "No need to panic until February/March." I don't think there are any cut-off dates until it's past every single medical school's last date of interview season. Should you panic? No, panicking will not change the situation you are in. Instead you need to remain calm and try the following:


1. If the school is receptive to update letters then send them. I am assuming you have been doing something productive in the interim.
2. Assume rejection right now and start to do things that will bolster your application if you have to re-apply. This is great advice and something Goro mentions a lot. In November, I have been complete for two months and by then I received 3 holds (All from State schools where my stats were better or on-par) and 4 rejections, no II. I decided to look over what was lacking in my app. Main thing was I did not have any shadowing, which many people claimed on SDN was a red-flag. I did have clinical volunteering, through which I believed I understood what a working life of a doctor is like but I guess not. So, I recently got someone to say yes to shadowing opportunity. Also, I've continued to do research since I graduated which led to a job position now. Now these are two updates achieved in merely a month that I can give to medical schools. This was because I assumed rejection. Potential app-boosters for next year can turn into updates for this year, which may result in an II. Now, there's the whole debate on whether updates have any effect or not. My thought is for schools that openly accept them and I believe I have been productive since submitting my app that an update can't hurt (especially as the interview season winds down). But, long story short, a month later in December I received my first II from a school I did not send an update, which shows the process is random and it's not over until it's past their last interview date.

Assuming rejection is the worst part and thinking that you have to apply a second or for some a third time can be demoralizing but if you really want something then you got to go out and get it. I'm not sure if I'll be accepted this cycle but I learned a few lessons about the app process, gained some new experiences in the medical, research, and other fields that I know will make my app for next year much better.

Ask yourself this: If you knew you would be accepted to medical school but just had to wait one more year then would that be reasonable to you? If yes, then don't give up and keep at it.
 
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