MD & DO Thread on Competitiveness & Unity in Medical School

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I think about perhaps publishing later a paper about this, or just entertain the subject in a conversation, or just reflect on it on my own - whatever the case is going to be, my intention is to fill this thread with everyone's experience regarding:
- the competitiveness and/or unity they experienced/are experiencing in Medical school
- the effects that it has on the individual and on the collective performance
- the effects that it has on the social dynamics
- the effects it has on sculpting the character of individuals
- anything else that you consider important

My observation about the way students act in my Medical school is that while their competitiveness often times gives them a personal profit, they do not learn anything about the importance of co-operation, team-work and even inter-human wisdom. Because later in life, as a physician, you will be constantly connected to other physicians and besides the fact that some of them are going to remember you from University, you've got to build relationships with the ones who don't know you yet and it might be difficult to change behavioral habits that you had in school for years, the individualistic mindset you developed can be smelled from a mile and it can definitely send the wrong signals to other physicians.

It's also important the way a person is competitive: if someone focuses on lifting himself up OR if someone focuses on dragging others down, sabotaging others, not giving help to others - the second type of competitiveness can actually show a lack of self-confidence in your own abilities and this is something many students don't get.
Like, if you are top-notch in a subject and someone asks you to explain him something or to help him out in getting a difficult thing he's just not understanding, you shouldn't feel threatened by that and decide to not give any help so that you feel more comfortable, because that only shows how weak you truly are and how you just don't want a strong competition, so you think that the more your schoolmates are struggling, the better for you.

Besides this, a level of competitiveness is natural and healthy, after all, it does show your level of performance and that's an important thing when you assess yourself. However, it's typically one of those things that can rapidly descent into "can't see the forest for the trees" scenario, in which you actually forget about the essence of Medicine and you get blindsided by your ego.

There are many others things that can be said, I'm eager to read what everyone thinks about this.
Have a great day !
 
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Why do you even bother writing ? 😀

Glad I ensured the spike of your dopamine levels by giving you the opportunity to get some meaningless upvotes :highfive:
 
Medical education, in general, has always been and will always be a marvel of experimental sociology. Every year schools are amassing a groupof 50-250 people (depending on class size), most of which have been known for their entire lives as being the highest-achieving, smartest, and most productive individuals in their schools, jobs, social groups and families.

To hand pick this many high-functioning, unique, talented people and molding them into a single cohort is a months-long process that requires entire teams of professional staff.

And what? You expect all these highly-achieving individuals to get immediately along? Or to always be respective, supportive, or even cordial? Most medical students have been great white sharks from day one, who can smell blood and will be damned if anything gets between them and a high score.

Medical students will learn professionalism, will learn teamwork, and will learn collegiality throughout this grueling process, and if they don't, they'll certainly be known for it, trust me. I agree, people should try to be friendly, and compassionate in all situations but remember, it will come in time. In the meantime, ignore the need for social commentary, and the idiosyncrasies of others. Just find yourself a good group of pals and keep your head down and work hard.

Remember it's your PATIENTS who will need your best effort in the future, not the learning environment committee.

Stay strong op! You got this!
 
Medical education, in general, has always been and will always be a marvel of experimental sociology. Every year schools are amassing a groupof 50-250 people (depending on class size), most of which have been known for their entire lives as being the highest-achieving, smartest, and most productive individuals in their schools, jobs, social groups and families.

To hand pick this many high-functioning, unique, talented people and molding them into a single cohort is a months-long process that requires entire teams of professional staff.

And what? You expect all these highly-achieving individuals to get immediately along? Or to always be respective, supportive, or even cordial? Most medical students have been great white sharks from day one, who can smell blood and will be damned if anything gets between them and a high score.

Medical students will learn professionalism, will learn teamwork, and will learn collegiality throughout this grueling process, and if they don't, they'll certainly be known for it, trust me. I agree, people should try to be friendly, and compassionate in all situations but remember, it will come in time. In the meantime, ignore the need for social commentary, and the idiosyncrasies of others. Just find yourself a good group of pals and keep your head down and work hard.

Remember it's your PATIENTS who will need your best effort in the future, not the learning environment committee.

Stay strong op! You got this!
Thanks for your answer.
You're definitely having a mature attitude about this.

I'm just amused how many butthurt people are attracted to threads like this.
All that intelligence that the Medical field requires is somehow lost outside of Academia ( just browsing this forum sometimes is enough proof for that ).
 
I keep hearing med school is competitive and people sabotage each other. I have never encountered this in real life anywhere.

I dont think people sabotage each other. But there is definitely competitive mindsets.
 
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I keep hearing med school is competitive and people sabotage each other. I have never encountered this in real life anywhere.
I keep hearing that medical students are some of the smartest people out there. I have never encountered this in real life anywhere. But for real, everything that you do is for your future pts. Keep grinding and enjoy the privilege that it is to take care of people.
 
I keep hearing that medical students are some of the smartest people out there. I have never encountered this in real life anywhere. But for real, everything that you do is for your future pts. Keep grinding and enjoy the privilege that it is to take care of people.

I’m not sure what you’re saying. I hope my post is clear in that I haven’t encountered anything like what the OP is describing. I’m loving Med school and not a day goes by when I’m not grateful to be here. I barely made it in the door, but since I’ve been here I’ve been giving my all and killing it. I agree completely with the sentiment of being a privilege to be training to be a doctor and this perspective has helped me through the worst of times.
 
I’m not sure what you’re saying. I hope my post is clear in that I haven’t encountered anything like what the OP is describing. I’m loving Med school and not a day goes by when I’m not grateful to be here. I barely made it in the door, but since I’ve been here I’ve been giving my all and killing it. I agree completely with the sentiment of being a privilege to be training to be a doctor and this perspective has helped me through the worst of times.
I was too lazy to separate my joke from my response to OP. I'm glad you're killing it, though makes me happy to hear.
 
I have literally never run into this problem in real life. Sure we have some boners in every class but everyone gets along because we’re well adjusted individuals.

I don’t understand what the point of this thread is - just to bitch and moan?
 
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