tint vs rosens

[met19]

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hey all-

what is everyone's opinion on tintinallis vs rosens? And should you use the one that your program does topic review out of?

 

[bulgethetwine]

hey all-

what is everyone's opinion on tintinallis vs rosens? And should you use the one that your program does topic review out of?

Neither. I use Harwood and Nuss.

If I had to rank 'em, I'd rank:

1. H&N
2. Rosen
3. Tin

Personal preference, of course. And search the board, this has been covered and debated a bazillion times.

 

[turtle md]

hey all-

what is everyone's opinion on tintinallis vs rosens? And should you use the one that your program does topic review out of?

Use the one your program does review out of - it will make things easier..

 

[kungfufishing]

I own both, have yet to finish rosen's, but like it a little better. more pages yet I think it is a little more consistently edited and I read it faster. My lips still move however.
Although it isnt a "gold standard" text, I really like the carol rivers book. mine is dog eared something terrible at this point, but it really has good info and is a fast read.

 

[dlung]

hey all-

what is everyone's opinion on tintinallis vs rosens? And should you use the one that your program does topic review out of?

You can only throw it once, but Tintanelli has higher damage potential than any single volume of Rosen's.

 

[kungfufishing]

I dunno, you could achieve a greater velocity with rosen's, and if you got the hollowpoint edition no question.

 

[DeLaughterDO]

You can only throw it once, but Tintanelli has higher damage potential than any single volume of Rosen's.

sure, with tintinalli you might get more damage with a single shot, but you have the advantage with Rosen's of "2-damage, 2-damage, 2-damage!"

 

[dlung]

hey all-

what is everyone's opinion on tintinallis vs rosens? And should you use the one that your program does topic review out of?

Since I owe you a serious answer, personally, ideally I'd have two of the three... I can only get through chapters of Tintanelli or HN in a single sitting, but Rosen's is a fantastic resource. We get both Tintanelli and Rosen's through MD Consult, so there's actually a resident or two who are ambitious enough to just use the electronic versions.

 

[DrQuinn]

I have used tintinalli's, that's what my program used. I also have a one-edition late copy of Rosen's, which I think is good, and betteer writtten (read, easier to read). I've glanced through H&N and think its ok too, but damn I can't use three texts....

TIntinalli's I have found to not be all inclusive.... therefore I use google.

Q

 

[DeLaughterDO]

Since I owe you a serious answer, personally, ideally I'd have two of the three... I can only get through chapters of Tintanelli or HN in a single sitting, but Rosen's is a fantastic resource. We get both Tintanelli and Rosen's through MD Consult, so there's actually a resident or two who are ambitious enough to just use the electronic versions.

Our program uses both Tintinalli and Rosen's - we essentially go through the entire text in 18 months, so you cover each book once in that amount of time. Said another way, we cover the EM curricula twice in 3 years, which is kinda nice for repetition sake... if'n you learn that way 🙂

jd

 

[met19]

thank you for all the responses. 🙂

 

[Midwest Medic]

Our program uses Tints book, but I actually like Rosen's much better, just seems more complete

 

[southerndoc]

I dunno, you could achieve a greater velocity with rosen's, and if you got the hollowpoint edition no question.

E=mv(squared)

So velocity matters most! 🙂

I prefer Rosen's. It's easier for me to read. I get two sentences into Tintinalli and I'm falling asleep.

 

[southerndoc]

Our program uses both Tintinalli and Rosen's - we essentially go through the entire text in 18 months, so you cover each book once in that amount of time. Said another way, we cover the EM curricula twice in 3 years, which is kinda nice for repetition sake... if'n you learn that way 🙂

jd

I thought all EM residencies followed this pace?

 

[DrMom]

mine is going through all of tint each year plus spending 2 months reviewing through Rivers...so basically we're reading through all of tint in 10 months. I think it is overkill.

 

[Chulito]

I see that Rosen's 5th edition from 2002 is not currently available through Amazon. Is there word out that a new edition is forthcoming?

Also, has anyone here used the EM Case Files book during 3rd-year EM rotation? If so, what did you think? (Am I going to be admonished for not using the search function for this one?)

 

[DeLaughterDO]

I thought all EM residencies followed this pace?

I dunno.. if you look at DrMom's post just underneath yours, it doesn't necessarily appear so!

Makes sense to cover everything twice, or maybe spend more time on the bread and butter stuff so you know it better, or even to go over the stuff that is not bread-and-butter since you don't see it as much.

I guess it's been done before, so it must work, right?

jd

 

[NKMU]

I see that Rosen's 5th edition from 2002 is not currently available through Amazon. Is there word out that a new edition is forthcoming?

The 6th edition of Rosen's is out now.

 

[Chulito]

The 6th edition of Rosen's is out now.

I looked up the sixth edition on the Elsevier site, and it is expensivisimo. From past experience do you guys know whether it will be significantly cheaper once it gets to Amazon? Will that happen relatively quickly, or will it take a long time? Should I wait or just resign myself to paying $400+ for the damn thing? I'm just a med student, so I can certainly wait a while if it would behoove me to do so.

 

[DeLaughterDO]

would wait until residency - you get CME money for these things, if the residency does not just buy your copy for you.

jd

 

[DrQuinn]

I looked up the sixth edition on the Elsevier site, and it is expensivisimo. From past experience do you guys know whether it will be significantly cheaper once it gets to Amazon? Will that happen relatively quickly, or will it take a long time? Should I wait or just resign myself to paying $400+ for the damn thing? I'm just a med student, so I can certainly wait a while if it would behoove me to do so.

The price never really changes on brand new textbooks, atleast directly from the publisher. Look now and see what a brand new Tintinalli's is... its been out since 2002 or 2003, its still probably well over $100. That being said, you can probably find somewhat cheaper dealers on amazon's "side" sellers (those "used and new copies from $89" sort of things. or Ebay.

Or you can wait until you have CME money to burn.

Q

 

[johnthestreak]

we get tint for free and all of our readings come from rosen's but i wish i would've gotten rivers

 

[WilcoWorld]

Should anyone on here want to trade a used Rosen that's in good condition for my brand new, still sealed Rivers please PM me.

 

[12R34Y]

I really like tintinalli's. I like Rosen's as well. just think tint is an easier read and more useful.

I have NOT been impressed with River's. there is a lot of stuff in there that is "never die" kind of stuff that if you just read Rosen's or are up on evidenced based medicine that is just no longer standard or wrong in that book.

not impressed at all.

later

 

[bulgethetwine]

I really like tintinalli's. I like Rosen's as well. just think tint is an easier read and more useful.

I have NOT been impressed with River's. there is a lot of stuff in there that is "never die" kind of stuff that if you just read Rosen's or are up on evidenced based medicine that is just no longer standard or wrong in that book.

not impressed at all.

later

I'll offer up my brand new, unused Tintin for some arrangement that involves cash, Rosen, or Rivers.

I feel like a pimp. PM me.

 

[gutonc]

Just out of curiousity, as a non-EM person here, if I needed to look something up in an EM text for some reason, is there a significant content difference b/w Tint and Rosen (forget Rivers) that would lead me to one of them over the other? Or is it more like Cecil's vs. Harrison's in IM...it's mostly stylistic differences so as long as you're not sitting down to read it chapter by chapter, you just grab whichever one is handy?

 

[12R34Y]

Just out of curiousity, as a non-EM person here, if I needed to look something up in an EM text for some reason, is there a significant content difference b/w Tint and Rosen (forget Rivers) that would lead me to one of them over the other? Or is it more like Cecil's vs. Harrison's in IM...it's mostly stylistic differences so as long as you're not sitting down to read it chapter by chapter, you just grab whichever one is handy?

This is a good comparison. Tint's versus Rosen's would be very similar to cecil's versus harrison's.

both adequate. personal preference.

later

 

[12R34Y]

I'll offer up my brand new, unused Tintin for some arrangement that involves cash, Rosen, or Rivers.

I feel like a pimp. PM me.

If I had a River's I'd give it to you for free.

maybe with some cash even.

later