Tips for Incoming Premeds?

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Current senior in high school here, and though I know this technically belongs in the hSDN forum, I figured all the people I wanted answers from would be here.

Anyway, I'm going to enter college this fall, and am a bit nervous. I've mostly glided by in school for the past 4 years and have been able to get good grades with relatively little work. I know I'm in for a rude awakening come September, but I'm wondering if knowing how to attack the new load of material will help facilitate the transition. So, a few questions if any of you can help...

How did you all study? I know this changes from class to class and from person to person, but should I be doing practice problems for each chapter? Creating notes to study from outside of class?

Should I be taking notes in class on a laptop or in a notebook? I've only ever had experience with notebooks in school, but I'll be getting a laptop for college anyway and wonder what your experiences have been like.

How many hours of studying did you guys do every day outside of class? When did you start considering the MCAT into your studies, and when did you incorporate it? (for example, were you looking through an MCAT review guide before actually studying for the test, were you taking certain classes with the MCAT in mind, etc.)

These questions are just guidelines. I guess I'd just like to know what worked for you. I know everyone is different in their preparation for tests, etc., I just don't know where to start.

Thanks!
 
For maths and science, yes, absolutely do practice problems.

Some instructors won't allow you to use computers in class.

What works for you is what you should do, there's really too much variability. As far as the MCAT, etc... It really does you no good to study before you've taken the classes that are tested. AAMC has a very nice pdf of the topics, you can check them off as you go along.
 
Current senior in high school here, and though I know this technically belongs in the hSDN forum, I figured all the people I wanted answers from would be here.

Anyway, I'm going to enter college this fall, and am a bit nervous. I've mostly glided by in school for the past 4 years and have been able to get good grades with relatively little work. I know I'm in for a rude awakening come September, but I'm wondering if knowing how to attack the new load of material will help facilitate the transition. So, a few questions if any of you can help...

How did you all study? I know this changes from class to class and from person to person, but should I be doing practice problems for each chapter? Creating notes to study from outside of class?

Should I be taking notes in class on a laptop or in a notebook? I've only ever had experience with notebooks in school, but I'll be getting a laptop for college anyway and wonder what your experiences have been like.

How many hours of studying did you guys do every day outside of class? When did you start considering the MCAT into your studies, and when did you incorporate it? (for example, were you looking through an MCAT review guide before actually studying for the test, were you taking certain classes with the MCAT in mind, etc.)

These questions are just guidelines. I guess I'd just like to know what worked for you. I know everyone is different in their preparation for tests, etc., I just don't know where to start.

Thanks!

Studying varies from class to class and from school to school. Some professors supply really detailed notes and the majority of the studying is done from those notes, while others rely heavily on the text. There are a select few classes that require an intimate knowledge of wikipedia. You'll learn study habits as you go along, all I recommend is starting college off lightly (13-14 credits your first semester) to make the transition easier. I, like you, barely did any studying in high school, so it is possible.

With regards to the MCAT. I took it late May, took a Kaplan course from January to April. I, unlike many others, confined all of my studies to the Kaplan materials (books, online workshops, practice tests supplied by Kaplan and, of course, the AAMC practice tests). Too many different study sources can throw you off and hinder your ability to memorize a lot of info. I didn't take biochemistry before the MCAT, but looking back, I high recommend doing so. The basic pre-reqs (BIO1and2, Chem1and2, Orgo1and2, Physics1and2) provide enough initial knowledge base to do well on the MCAT and get you into medical school.

Listen: Major in something you enjoy!

Finally, don't be a gunner.
 
Relax, these aren't the things you need to worry about now. Work hard, but also party hard (yeah, don't spend all your time studying or you'll be miserable). Enjoy college! You'll develop your own ways for succeeding (taking notes, studying, etc...) - no one way works for everyone. Use your high school experiences, but know that you will almost definitely have to work harder in college.

Agree with Jurassicpark - take the pre req classes first before tackling the MCAT (or be finishing up right before you take it), they by definition should cover just about all the material on it.

Be careful about SDN - lots of horror stories here (rejections with high GPA/MCATs). Your school advisor is a possible resource - don't be afraid to use them later down the line.

Just don't be afraid to have a little fun along the way - you'll thank me later!

EDIT: DEFINITELY major is something you LIKE, not something you "think" med schools will look positively on (because they wont!)
 
Relax. I was very nervious about starting school as well but believe me it isn't that hard. Sure, it's a lot more work outside class and it's a different kind of learning, but try and realize that other kids just like you are going to be going through it too.

As far as studying goes it varies class to class. In Gen chem I just did a lot of problems and tried to understand concepts. In Bio I took a lot of notes and rewrote important points of a book.. i also made diagrams for all the things I thought were important (gyclolysis, etc.)

My first semester was actually my worse, GPA-wise.
 
college isnt so bad if you know your limits. the hardest part may infact be knowing your limit, so i usually suggest taking a light first semester. dont load up in any given subject and try to be open minded when picking courses.

for studying, it depends on the class and professor. science/math usually entails lots of practice problems. most kids have problems keeping up w/ the class and that is basically what screws most people over. be organized, stay on top of the material, be willing to ask for help (office hours, section, or w/e), and you should be fine.
 
Figure out how much time you need to put in to stay on top of your classes and then spend the rest of the time enjoying yourself. College is suppose to be fun. If it isn't, you're doing something wrong.
 
Don't do things that are illegal just because your friends are.

You'll get caught and make stupid posts on SDN years later.

If you need help, ask.

Take humanities. Learn another language. Go easy the first term. Take speech class.
 
Figure out if you really want to be a doctor. Everything will work itself out if you do and you'll be less stressed about it.

How did you all study?

Notecards, keeping on top of things. Sometimes I ran into classes that I wasn't interested in and I crammed for them but that doesn't work out nearly as well. Be motivated to learn as alot of the prereq/MCAT science stuff looks like it'll be showing up in the USMLE too.


Should I be taking notes in class on a laptop or in a notebook?

Whatever you like. I know some students that do well with a laptop and but for most, it just seems like a major distraction.

How many hours of studying did you guys do every day outside of class? When did you start considering the MCAT into your studies, and when did you incorporate it?

I'd preview each the night before to prepare for lectures the next day, review lectures and do assignments right away when I come home, and showed up for exam reviews. It wasn't really time consuming, I'd wager I spent about 2-3 times class/lab time studying or doing assignments in this manner and get an A everytime. But I was lazy and crammed for classes I didn't like, spend way less time that way and fluctuated between B+ and A that way.

When MCAT came around, I only needed to refresh my memory for the most part except for 2nd semester physics and the first quarter of Ochem ( I crammed for them.) No point considering MCAT into your studies, only major topic you learn that absolutely will not show up on the MCAT is nonvertabrates on the evolutionary tree I think.
 
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Drink heavily. Hook up with women. Make INTERESTING friends. Play golf or tennis, for leisure. Enjoy your 19th, 20th, and 21st birthdays. Because...

Your 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th, 27th, 28th birthdays will be ****ty.
 
I understand how nervous you are - as I was in your shoes not too long ago, but I'd say there is no need to worry right now. The first week of a university usually caters to new students. Professors go over a syllabus, tell you what they expect, etc.
As for laptops, I generally only bring my laptops to literature/language/humanities courses. I like handwriting science and math because it can be a bit hard to draw the diagrams on your laptop.
If you do find it difficult studying, I would suggest getting to know your best method of learning as quickly as possible. This thread may help you out: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=399745

If you are really worried about it, like the others said take a light course load to get adjusted to your new atmosphere. 🙂
 
don't take zoology, unless you just happen to enjoy the subject. It doesnt matter what your pre med advisor says, its not going to be on the MCAT and its not required by any schools. Its just a common general biology course that pre meds THINK they have to take, but in reality they do not.

I have taken my laptop to all of my classes because I take really good notes on my computer. My handwriting is illegible and i write really slow, so for me my computer is a MUST have. If you are the same way, then bring your laptop. Its an even split between kids that use one and kids that dont. Its just up to you.
 
there is no right or wrong way to study. What works for me might not work for you. If I could give any advice for studying it would be to learn how to do it right. High school never challenged me so I had to learn how to study. Be prepared to adjust to studying in a new way or create a new learning style.

Also, don't be afraid to ask for help! Your professors and/or tutors are being paid to help you so use them. Don't wait till there is a problem - ask for help at the first signs of trouble and you will save yourself from so much grief later on.

Last but not least, relax! You are going to college! There are thousands of kids that wish they could be in your shoes. Take a break, don't stress & have some fun. Don't spend your whole life being the perfect premed & doing everything SDN suggests or you will find yourself feeling really empty & losing one of your last opportunities to truly enjoy yourself. Best of luck!
 
Study often and don't fall behind. Don't study more than necessary (i.e. have some fun). Apply yourself, but don't spread yourself too thin. Do the practice problems (especially in math and chem...and physics...and bio [depending on how the course is taught]). Minor/double major in something you like, but don't worry about figuring it out until after you're in school. Take any advice from you pre-med advisor and SDN with cautious optimism...some advice is better than others. Don't worry about the MCAT for at least two more years.
 
oh, and about the mcat: start studying day 1. as in, start building a solid foundation in the pre-reqs. do well in them and make prepping for the mcat easier down the road.
 
Okay, there have been a lot of replies, but I'm bored and maybe I will say something useful.

1.) Study well (not hard, well) and learn the material. Sometimes you have to 'study to the test' or whatever, but make sure you know the pre-req material.

-Do practice problems.
-Have others or yourself quiz you.
-If you get it right the first year, it makes everything else much easier

2.) READ. Read stuff you like, and that is challenging. Take some English or lit. courses. You will be happy when the MCAT comes around. Some pre-meds are amazingly illiterate.

3.) Do things you like. Also, do some volunteering (not necessarily medical), and some medical related work (PAID, much better learning experience), and SHADOW (very fun).

-Pick a major you like, keeping job possibilities in mind. You never know. Oh, and do an internship.

4.) Find a hobby, or keep up with the ones you have. Force yourself. Undergrad can be a lot of fun, so don't stress too much.
 
Try not to stress too much this early. This website is great for giving yourself anxiety. If you're starting now, you're gonna be miserable by application time. Chill.
 
I just put my first semester behind me so I definatly understand where you are coming from. As everyone else said take a light load initially. I took 17 credits 1st semester and this served no purpose other than frustrating me during my adjustment period. I am taking 18 credits this semester but that is because I now know how to study for college classes. For the science courses do sample problems and use the web resources that come with most textbooks. They are much more helpful than the CDs that came previously.

Don't make notecards! They are a waist of time and will set you back immensly. I made notecards the 1st month of school and it didn't pay off. By the time you have finished making notecards, you could have studied through your notes already and be done. Take detailed notes. They will help at the end of the semester when you have forgotten what the professor said way back in the beginning.

Make a lot of friends early on and keep in touch with them. College is a big place. If you don't activly try to keep up with your friends you will lose contact.

Don't do anything other than study and hang out with friends your first semester. During the last quarter of the semester begin looking for volunteering/research that you would like to get involvled in and set that up for the following semester.

Study often. Don't let material pile up. It is possible to cram the night before an exam and actually do quite well on the test but you will forget everything a week later. Keeping in mind that MCAT is 3 years down the road it is to your advantage to try and retain as much as you can so you can spend less time reviewing then.

Above all, don't approach your classes as requirements that must be fulfilled. Try to enjoy each one as a learning opportunity and try to take away something positive and useful from them.
 
A bunch of prospective pre-meds at my school did very well their first quarter and second quarter, and then they got cocky and didn't study for their 3rd quarter and partied too much and ended up blowing their GPA, don't let that be you.
 
Don't make notecards! They are a waist of time and will set you back immensly. I made notecards the 1st month of school and it didn't pay off. By the time you have finished making notecards, you could have studied through your notes already and be done. Take detailed notes. They will help at the end of the semester when you have forgotten what the professor said way back in the beginning.

OP, ignore this advice. Pooghe has realized that notecards do not work for him/her, that DOES NOT mean they wont work for you. I also hate using notecards b/c for me there are more efficient ways to study, but i konw other people that make flashcards and do very well in class, so its based on how you learn. One things for sure, you'll figure out how you study best very quickly.
 
Understand that being pre-med is not the entirety of your life. Experience the fun side of college as much as you can, because you only have 4 or 5 years of this, which for many, will be the most fun in their lives. Work hard, play harder; why do you want to save lives if you dont even know what it means to have one?
 
From my blog, here's some EC advice:


1) The basics

To begin any pre-med resume, you have to have the things that most medical schools expect a pre-med to have done. They want to see that you have done community service, because this shows that you are interested in helping others and have compassion. They want to see that you have had leadership experience, because you will be in charge of a number of nursing, techs, etc, and good leadership is necessary when you are dealing with people's health or lives. They want to see that you have done clinical volunteering, so that you have seen doctors and patients interacting and are interested in helping people medically. They want to see that you have shadowed doctors (probably less important than the volunteering), so that you have a better grasp of what you are getting yourself into. I personally would recommend at least one year of clinical work or volunteering. It would be best if you started this year no later than your junior year, so that it doesn't ring of last minute resume buffing (salt shaker alert here, this is just the common consensus among pre-meds that I know). If you do your year of volunteering at the beginning of your Freshman year, I would recommend that you punctuate the remaining years with shadowing and short term medical stuff like a blood drive or two, so you don't have to explain why you suddenly stopped all medical related activities. The last "basic" is always useful, but only absolutely necessary when applying to heavy-weight research schools, and that is research. Off the top of my head I believe that 93% of acceptances at U of Michigan were given to students with research experience last year. Similar stats occur at other research schools. It doesn't have to be medically related research, so long as you were part of the creation of new knowledge. Publications are nice, so I would suggest getting started on this early in your undergrad years.

Remember, you can list activities that you began before college, so long as you continued them in college. Everything else must be after high school to be most effective. I cannot offer much advice to non-traditional applicants, but I would assume that the rules are a bit more relaxed for you, especially if you were, say, a Fullbright scholar ten years ago.

2) Have something that will make your readers say "Gee, I want to meet this applicant!"

There is no such thing as a guaranteed acceptance. I know people who were accepted at Top 10 schools, only to be rejected post-interview from their state school that they were highly competitive at in terms of academics. A 4.0 and a 45T alone isn't going to get you accepted everywhere, though I wouldn't go so far as to say as it wouldn't get you anywhere. For the rest of us mortals, though, extracurriculars are the best way to make ourselves stand out from the pack. As such, have an activity that is really unique, because these things can be quite strong selling points. For me, it was being involved in some post-post-post-post modern dance performances. You have plenty of time to pick up something that is off the beaten pre-med path, so have an interest that isn't what you would normally find in a room full of scientists. There's a reason that the top schools are always telling us how their students are marathon runners, Olympic competitors, composers, singers, and the like. For one, its just plain cool and impressive, and so those are the students they highlight. However, even the students who aren't quite as stand alone as that will often have things that are still pretty interesting to hear about. This desire for interesting applicants occurs at every medical school, and an interesting activity might land you an interview at your dream school. I'm not saying that you should fill your resume with nothing but outlandish activities, but one or two ice breakers will be very helpful.

2) Combine your interests and talents with your activities

This goes hand in hand with my first point, but it can really improve your extracurriculars when you combine your activities. Say you go volunteer at the VA or at a hospice, and on the side you take violin lessons. Why not go play your violin at the VA or hospice? If you want to help out a community service, why not run in a charity marathon if you happen to be a runner? Avid painter? Teach a painting class to inner city youth, or paint a mural for a community center. Be creative, it will mean a lot more to the people you help as well as the person reviewing your application.


3) Represent your message

If you want to go into academic medicine, research, public health, etc, make sure that you can justify it. If you tell your interviewer that you absolutely love teaching, but you haven't done anything teaching related (according to your resume), you risk making yourself look like you are trying to just be impressive. If you are interested in something and are going to state that it is part of your goals or beliefs, you should make sure that you are an active part of realizing them. If you are a staunch believer in helping the underprivileged, and intend to do so in your medical career, get out there and work at a soup kitchen or at a shelter. If you've never done anything to prove your interest in something, then how can the interviewer believe that you are telling the truth. This goes back to the whole point of having to justify that you are sure you want to do medicine by having medical experience.

4) Do things that are important to you, rather than simply trying to buff up your resume

You are trying to represent who you are, when you apply to medical school. A lot of medical admissions is just based on feel and fit. If you seem to connect well with the school and student philosophy, you are much more likely to get in. It is tempting to try and just pick out things that you feel will increase your competitiveness, but in the end you aren't doing yourself justice. I truly believe that my dancing was a bigger influence on my admissions cycle than most other things. I'm passionate about it, and it has let me do a lot more than simply clocking hours at community service event that I have no interest in. Speaking of community service, the majority of mine is education and inner city related, because I'm passionate about those things. Passion is your strongest ally on the application path. The admissions committee wants to see what you are really made of, what really makes you tick. You will do better at activities that you love doing, and you will be making yourself well rounded. As I've mentioned in a previous post, I personally feel that interviews are all about assessing your ability to utilize the art of medicine. Patients are people. As a doctor, the more well rounded you are, the better you will be able to interact and relate with your patients. This isn't about doctors treating patients, its about people treating people. A well rounded list of activities that are not entirely cookie cutter pre-med will do you more good personally and career wise than a bazillion hours of volunteering. Show your individuality and show your passion. If there isn't some kind of medically related experience that you can find that fits into your passions, you probably are in the wrong field.
 
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