To report or not..... That is the question

[listener23]

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Hi I took Physics I last semester at my university and got an A. Than when i took physics II at random community college over the summer and got an B. I didn't transfer the credit over to my university yet is it ok to wait till after My GPA is confirmed by the AAMC to transfer it? Additional information : I will be taking my mcat summer 2014 and applying for 2016 matriculation (yes 1 year gap).

 

[487806]

Hi I took Physics I last semester at my university and got an A. Than when i took physics II at random community college over the summer and got an B. I didn't transfer the credit over to my university yet is it ok to wait till after My GPA is confirmed by the AAMC to transfer it? Additional information : I will be taking my mcat summer 2014 and applying for 2016 matriculation (yes 1 year gap).

You must report all grades to AMCAS.

 

[Nena01]

You are required to send ALL your transcripts to AMCAS. You can't pick and choose..

 

[listener23]

You are required to send ALL your transcripts to AMCAS. You can't pick and choose..

I know but will they notice if I leave that one out. And once I'm accepted into a school i can show that school I completed physics 2 so I can matriculate.

 

[rain4venus]

I know but will they notice if I leave that one out. And once I'm accepted into a school i can show that school I completed physics 2 so I can matriculate.

You mean will they care that you lied on your application? My instincts say yes.

 

[Nena01]

I know but will they notice if I leave that one out. And once I'm accepted into a school i can show that school I completed physics 2 so I can matriculate.

I'm not sure you would get accepted if they don't know that you completed physics 2..since it's a requirement for acceptance.

You can't really get away with this.. like I said, you are REQUIRED to send them every transcript..

 

[SN12357]

I know but will they notice if I leave that one out. And once I'm accepted into a school i can show that school I completed physics 2 so I can matriculate.

Many schools require you (on their secondaries) to tell them exactly what classes you have taken or will take to satisfy their requirements.

So if I understand you correctly, you are planning on breaking the AAMC's rules for transcript submissions, then lying on secondaries, then assuming you get in telling the school 'JK! I totally completed this class with a subpar grade, we're ok now, right guys?'

No. This is a terrible plan.

 

[DrOneDay7]

Submitting your primary without all of your transcripts incorporated in it would be a huge indiscretion, regardless of notifying schools about it later on. I highly doubt you'll be rejected because of a B, but I can almost guarantee you'll be rejected and without future consideration if you try to hide it.

Schools are much more forgiving about a couple of mediocre grades than they are about dishonesty. Just be honest on every aspect of your application, and you'll have no regrets or guilt later on.

 

[yehhhboiii]

you don't have to take required courses to be accepted but you do have to finish them before you matriculate

you must report all grades to amcas
they have all of your information including your social security number. it's not like they can't check where you took classes

 

[Goro]

I'm trusting that you're not a troll. Are you willing to terminate your medical career over a B? Dishonest doctors start out as dishonest students, and we take this very seriously. Can you really afford the risk that you won't be found out! Because you're looking at any possible acceptance being rescinded, or, if you're matriculated, being expelled.

Hi I took Physics I last semester at my university and got an A. Than when i took physics II at random community college over the summer and got an B. I didn't transfer the credit over to my university yet is it ok to wait till after My GPA is confirmed by the AAMC to transfer it? Additional information : I will be taking my mcat summer 2014 and applying for 2016 matriculation (yes 1 year gap).

 

[terp720]

I know but will they notice if I leave that one out. And once I'm accepted into a school i can show that school I completed physics 2 so I can matriculate.

And if you gave them the transcript, it would show that you took the class prior to submitting your application -- so they would definitely know you applied without submitting all of your grades. Bad idea

 

[Planes2Doc]

The Student Clearinghouse makes it nearly impossible to sweep anything less desirable under the rug (as long as it comes from an accredited school). It'll have every institution you attended in it.

You'll be shooting yourself in the foot by not disclosing this. And a B isn't bad at all!

 

[wholeheartedly]

Agree with everyone else, you have to report it.

I'd also like to note that it is beyond ridiculously easy for AMCAS to check on this. Accessing the educational clearinghouse that holds this info would probably take them all of 2-3 minutes.

 

[listener23]

The Student Clearinghouse makes it nearly impossible to sweep anything less desirable under the rug (as long as it comes from an accredited school). It'll have every institution you attended in it.

You'll be shooting yourself in the foot by not disclosing this. And a B isn't bad at all!

Could I take it at another community college and just never report the B?

 

[listener23]

I'm trusting that you're not a troll. Are you willing to terminate your medical career over a B? Dishonest doctors start out as dishonest students, and we take this very seriously. Can you really afford the risk that you won't be found out! Because you're looking at any possible acceptance being rescinded, or, if you're matriculated, being expelled.

Could I take it at another community college and just never report the B?

 

[rain4venus]

Could I take it at another community college and just never report the B?

no.
you. have. to. submit. all. your. transcripts

 

[487806]

Could I take it at another community college and just never report the B?

It doesn't matter. You must report all grades from all colleges.

 

[rain4venus]

Let this be a lesson to others to take any summer community classes seriously, because ALL college grades must be reported. Same with college classes in high school IIRC

ETA: This is something I fell victim to as well. My only C was during the semester my school was closed due to Katrina. I figured that as long as I passed, the grade wasn't going into my GPA, so it didn't matter. Didn't consider I was going to have to submit transcripts from all the schools I attended when applying to grad schools, even if the course was listed on my Tulane transcript.

 

[StudentDrWho]

Edit: took too long to post, but yeah sorry OP, everyone is right.

 

[Ismet]

OP - become your username and listen to the advice that has been repeated in this thread.

You must submit ALL transcripts. You CANNOT hide ANY grades.

 

[occams_razor]

I know but will they notice if I leave that one out. And once I'm accepted into a school i can show that school I completed physics 2 so I can matriculate.

there is a national student clearinghouse med schools use and it will show every school you have ever attended and earned a grade at, even community colleges.

also as others have said, a B is not a bad

 

[487806]

OP - become your username and listen to the advice that has been repeated in this thread.

You must submit ALL transcripts. You CANNOT hide ANY grades.

In a variant statement, OP you CAN hide grades if you're willing to get your acceptance RESCINDED, your medical career DESTROYED, your hard work WASTED and your image SHAMED.

 

[Mavs88]

It's not even like an F, but a B!? Come on now, no matter what the grade...you will be caught. Follow the advice given above.

 

[gyngyn]

There is no need to question when there is only one answer.

 

[Nena01]

OP.. i find it silly that you're not listening to the advice that you asked for

 

[QuizzicalApe]

a b ain't no thang, dawg

 

[Ismet]

There is no need to question when there is only one answer.

this should be on a poster or something

 

[nvnme]

It's just a B, bro.

 

[Gameraddict]

sorry to hijack this thread but I think I put myself in a similar situation unintentionally.......I registered for an online non pre req science course in june but I didn't plan to start it until september. Because we are given a time frame of 9 months to complete it, I didn't think the course was designated a certain semester and so I just listed the course as in progress/ planned for the fall 2013 semester. I was able to finish the course recently and got an A but I realized that the course was designated as spring 2013. I'm so scared right now since I was just accepted to my top choice school and was wondering is this would cause them to rescind my acceptance?

 

[bear2roo]

wait sorry to hijack this too!

I remember summer before college 4 years ago, my family made me audit a bio & chem courses at UCLA extension I never completed it because halfway through I was so fed up with having that summer wasted and forced to be in class so I stopped attending

Does anyone know if I have to report it?? I just realized this like 10 mins ago and I already submitted AMCAS/verified/secondaries/whatnot. I don't know if I even have a transcript or whatnot from that place. Maybe I didn't since AMCAS verified my transcript? D:

 

[Pattycake25]

sorry to hijack this thread but I think I put myself in a similar situation unintentionally.......I registered for an online non pre req science course in june but I didn't plan to start it until september. Because we are given a time frame of 9 months to complete it, I didn't think the course was designated a certain semester and so I just listed the course as in progress/ planned for the fall 2013 semester. I was able to finish the course recently and got an A but I realized that the course was designated as spring 2013. I'm so scared right now since I was just accepted to my top choice school and was wondering is this would cause them to rescind my acceptance?

RELAX. This is nothing like the OP, who would be caught in a LIE. You made an honest mistake (and it sounds like a pretty understandable mistake to boot). I doubt they'd even care, and if they did they'd call you and you'd explain and you'd be fine. You're going to school buddy, don't worry. =P

 

[deleted303591]

They will certainly find out, if you ever received financial federal assistance for your courses, because of FAFSA.

They probably could find out every place you were enrolled anyways. It's called Lexis Nexis (not the research databases that we use as students!).

 

[Pattycake25]

Hi I took Physics I last semester at my university and got an A. Than when i took physics II at random community college over the summer and got an B. I didn't transfer the credit over to my university yet is it ok to wait till after My GPA is confirmed by the AAMC to transfer it? Additional information : I will be taking my mcat summer 2014 and applying for 2016 matriculation (yes 1 year gap).

Your determination to hide your grade is nonsensical, and makes me seriously question your capacity for reason. If you have a stellar GPA, one B in freaking Physics 2 is not going to hurt your chances. If you have a less impressive but still solid GPA, one B is not going to make much of a difference, and given the very high risk of getting caught you accept by trying to hide the B, it's more or less just shooting yourself in the foot. If you have a ****ty GPA, the B would HELP you, although you wouldn't get in regardless with less than a 3.0.

Not to mention the fact that it is absolutely, 100% unethical to conceal the grade, and in so doing violate the rules you agreed to when applying. You are falsifying your academic record by omission if you withhold this transcript. Think about that - you could (if you go undetected for that long, but that's unlikely) wind up in a lecture hall with a hundred of the best and brightest...and know in your heart that you don't belong among their ranks (because you'll be the only one guilty of such a large infraction, believe me). By your own implicit admission, in fact. Forget whether or not that's fair - do you even WANT that? To be stuck on a career path forever that you will never, ever forget you did not earn the privilege to pursue?

If you can't reason your way, logically or ethically, to do the right thing here, you don't belong in medical school. Period.

 

[Euxox]

wait sorry to hijack this too!

I remember summer before college 4 years ago, my family made me audit a bio & chem courses at UCLA extension I never completed it because halfway through I was so fed up with having that summer wasted and forced to be in class so I stopped attending

Does anyone know if I have to report it?? I just realized this like 10 mins ago and I already submitted AMCAS/verified/secondaries/whatnot. I don't know if I even have a transcript or whatnot from that place. Maybe I didn't since AMCAS verified my transcript? D:

Yes, you have to report the course. You aren't 100% okay even if AMCAS has verified your transcript because if and when you matriculate at a medical school, they could put you through an even more rigorous verification process and find something that AMCAS missed. It's best to report this course right now. And if you audited the course that means you didn't get a grade, right? So there should be nothing to worried about: It's not like you have a D or an F staining your record.

See "Grades that Do Not Affect the AMCAS GPA" on page 8 of the AMCAS instruction manual.