Touro MI ranking

[lovableDR]

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I saw a "DO ranking" from SDN website and was wondering if that's true. Touro MI is at the very bottom of the list. Could anyone with real-life exeperiences give me some thought? How is the education, student life, location of Touro MI compare to other schools in general? Truly appreciate it.

 

[GProteinStar]

Well, I am not a current student, but I will be starting there in the Fall. I did go to several interviews throughout the country and I was personally impressed by Touro-MI. The factors that were important to me included smaller anatomy groups, total dissection (as opposed to prosection), student cohesiveness (I was there the week before major exams and although some students were stressed out -- sleeping in the library most were very friendly and outgoing). Everybody seemed happy to be there.

US News World and Report actually ranks the school 2nd in Osteopathic schools after TCOM in Fort Worth, Texas.

Check out the current 2011 thread to get some more pointers and good luck in the interview. Don't let the group intimidate you, be yourself, and listen! 🙂

 

[GreenShirt]

Where do you find the US News & World Report info on DO schools? The only DO school I could find on any list was West Virgina #50 for primary care.

 

[JonnyG]

I saw a "DO ranking" from SDN website and was wondering if that's true. Touro MI is at the very bottom of the list. Could anyone with real-life exeperiences give me some thought? How is the education, student life, location of Touro MI compare to other schools in general? Truly appreciate it.

The ranking is based upon what people who interviewed there think it is in no way scientific. If you look at the ranking DCOM is number 2. It ISNT even open let alone accreddited.

US NEWS does not have a seperate ranking for DO schools so I do not see how it can be rankied behind TCOM. Some schools have been ranked for primary care, which is important (not for me but Im sure for some people).

 

[AlexisW333]

there's a section that talks about the validity of the rankings. I think touro's poor ranking has something to do with it's campus appearance and location in Vallejo. They gather some of their info from the med school interview reviews, which isn't necessarily the most accurate b/c it's posted from students who are not actual students there. For example, UofHawaii has a really high ranking b/c of it's location and therefore a high quality of life.
People that know Touro say that it has a strong reputation. I've heard that from other DOs, students who attended undergrad in N. Ca, and students who go to other DO schools.

 

[lysosome]

Well, I am not a current student, but I will be starting there in the Fall. I did go to several interviews throughout the country and I was personally impressed by Touro-MI. The factors that were important to me included smaller anatomy groups, total dissection (as opposed to prosection), student cohesiveness (I was there the week before major exams and although some students were stressed out -- sleeping in the library most were very friendly and outgoing). Everybody seemed happy to be there.

US News World and Report actually ranks the school 2nd in Osteopathic schools after TCOM in Fort Worth, Texas.

Check out the current 2011 thread to get some more pointers and good luck in the interview. Don't let the group intimidate you, be yourself, and listen! 🙂

Can you link us to the ranking site?

 

[GProteinStar]

I bought the 2006 version of the book at Barnes and Noble. I believe the link is available online for a charge. The book actually has several rankings in it: (Specialty rankings, Total indebtness, Financial Aid Packets, Selectivity, etcetera)

Greenshirt, you are correct, West Virginia is the only one in the top #50 for primary care (although I thought TCOM was in top fifty as well the last couple of years - maybe they dropped?).

Regarding the overall rank: It is ranked second to TCOM in the ranking for "selectivity" of schools. If I remember correctly, this is based on MCAT, GPA, and numbers applied versus accepted from the preceding class. All of the osteopathic schools are indeed listed on it, except for of course AT Still-AZ, DCOM, Touro-COM in NY, Touro-Nevada, LECOM-Bradenton, PCOM-Georgia, and AZCOM for their "new" factor.

Hope this helps - you can see the book the next time you are at a bookstore. 🙂

 

[GProteinStar]

Add:

Both allopathic and osteopathic schools are listed in the selectivity section together. All US Medical schools are great if they have met accreditation standards set forth in the country. The question is which one is a better fit your learning style and overall goals. I would take this into consideration prior to the numbers.

Good luck and feel free to ask me any other questions!

 

[AlexisW333]

http://www.studentdoctor.net/school_rankings.asp

 

[GProteinStar]

US News World and Report:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/med/medindex_brief.php

However, I don't think the list here is comprehensive. If you click on "the hardest and easiest medical schools to get into" you will have the option to pay the premium services fee to see the rankings... or just go to the bookstore and either buy it or see it for free. 🙂

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/med/brief/mdprank_brief.php

This ranking also shows TCOM (i.e. University of North Texas Health Science Center at Fort Worth as ranked 34) for PRIMARY CARE. That's also an osteopathic school and higher ranked than West Virginia.

 

[ShabuShabu]

i recently interviewed at MI and i found many negatives about the school.

first, their rotations sites are scattered through out the bay area. i cannot speak too much on the strength of each of the individual rotations sites, but i do not look forward to driving to too many new sites after every rotation. if someone has more info about their rotation sites, please edumacate me.

in addition, the third year rotations sites are set by lottery from what i learned during interviews. u rank ur sites, and they try to match u accordingly. personally, i feel 3rd year rotations are very important for our future careers. this is when we get our letters for residency so i want to end up at a bustling teaching hospital to get a feel of things, something that touro might no be able to offer. in addition, we cannot do any away rotations during our third year. lets say u wanted to do a surgical residency down in socal- most ppl recommend that u rotate through the hospital where u want to do ur residency, so this will put at a disadvantage. although u are free to rotate where ever 4th year, buy that time ur residency apps will be in the mail. in conclusion, if rotations play a large part in getting a residency u want, then touro's rotation system is a drawback.

next, the incoming class of 07 will experience the first year of their new systems based curriculum. might be good, might be bad... just something to think about.

also, the campus is not quite up to par in technological offerings. they do no have lecture recorded on video. in fact, its not even recorded on audio-some sort of privacy policy. i have interviewed at only 4 schools, but it seems pretty ridiculous and outdated that the only way to access lecture material is to actually be at lecture. since this is a commuter school, i am sure at some point i will be late/miss class. a ginormous drwawback in my opinion.

board preparations- that is something i dont recall being talked about during my interview day. that probably means its not their strong point. i dont want to make direct comparrisons, but western (an alternative DO school for many touro applicants) has a usmle based subject by subject review built into the second year curriculum. thats pretty sweet. i dont know about touro- does anyone have any info on boards preparation?

student run clinics- that is something i am interested in and i didnt hear any talk of this at touro.

also, it seems that their is a huge lack of clinical education the first 2 years. no patient simulators. no standardized "actor" patients. not sure if we are hooked up to a preceptorhip. although i am sure we will get our fill of clinical stuff 3rd year, it worries me that many schools are integrating clinical education into their first two years. this means that we will be slightly disadvantaged to students from other schools when we show up to our first rotations. again, i am sure the clinical things we would learn during our first 2 years at other schools is minute in the large scheme of things, i would rather have it than not.

anyways, these are some things that i didnt like from interview day. maybe i just didnt get the info i needed that day so if there are any more knowledgeble ppl out there, please correct me.

with that being said, i am sure touro MI will help u become a fine physician and i will attend in a heart beat if other schools fall through. but if u dont care about being in the bay area or being close to family, touroMI is actually quite lacking compared to other schools i have interviewed at.

 

[czanetti]

I bought the 2006 version of the book at Barnes and Noble. I believe the link is available online for a charge. The book actually has several rankings in it: (Specialty rankings, Total indebtness, Financial Aid Packets, Selectivity, etcetera)

Greenshirt, you are correct, West Virginia is the only one in the top #50 for primary care (although I thought TCOM was in top fifty as well the last couple of years - maybe they dropped?).

Regarding the overall rank: It is ranked second to TCOM in the ranking for "selectivity" of schools. If I remember correctly, this is based on MCAT, GPA, and numbers applied versus accepted from the preceding class. All of the osteopathic schools are indeed listed on it, except for of course AT Still-AZ, DCOM, Touro-COM in NY, Touro-Nevada, LECOM-Bradenton, PCOM-Georgia, and AZCOM for their "new" factor.

Hope this helps - you can see the book the next time you are at a bookstore. 🙂

TCOM is ranked 34th for primary care (last year 28th), 2nd only to Michigan St college of osteopathic medicine which is ranked 5th

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/med/brief/mdprank_brief.php

 

[DNA Helicase]

Where do you find the US News & World Report info on DO schools? The only DO school I could find on any list was West Virgina #50 for primary care.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/med/medindex_brief.php

The meaningful information (i.e. rank based on difficulty of admission, among other things) you have to pay $14.95 for access to.

 

[AlexisW333]

Touro does have patient actors in their clinical ed class. The students do very well on the boards. After talking with COMP students, they told me that Western had major issues with pass rates and which is why they integrated a class into their curriculum. There were years when it was 70% pass rate. 98% of the Touro students get their 1st or at As for rotation sites, a lot of DO schools have to travel. Most students that want to stay in the Bay area can. A great school to consider if you want to do all of your rotations in the same city is CCOM.
As for third year rotations, there are a ton of affiliated hospitals to do rotations. You can do your electives, which you have during both 3rd and 4th year, at away sites. Most DO schools make you do core rotations at their affiliated sites, and then can do electives elsewhere. You can do your entire 4th year wherever you wanted.
I would agree that the campus isn't the most high tech.
In the end, each student has to decide which factors are most important to them, and look for schools that have them.

 

[DOMb]

AZCOM and TUCOM-MI opened around the same time, so it's not in this "new" category =)

 

[lovableDR]

Thank you for everyone's inputs. I just got back from Touro-NV interview yesterday and not so much excited about the experience. I scheduled my Touro-MI sometime in May. They said it's not for waitlist but I know the chance to get straight acceptance is quite low. I now just don't know if I should go and check out MI or not. I need to do some more thinking and research 🙂

 

[dohcho]

I spoke with a couple of faculties at one of the med schools in CA and they said they would never accepted a Touro student to their residency program again. So I asked why? They said they were just not prepared. Goodluck, i withdrew from Touro after i heard that. My interview at Touro-MI was a horrible experience for me.

 

[Dr JPH]

I spoke with a couple of faculties at one of the med schools in CA and they said they would never accepted a Touro student to their residency program again. So I asked why? They said they were just not prepared. Goodluck, i withdrew from Touro after i heard that. My interview at Touro-MI was a horrible experience for me.

I know a recent Touro graduate who matched at a very difficult residency.

Dont believe everything you hear...especially from premeds.

 

[ivyivy]

I spoke with a couple of faculties at one of the med schools in CA and they said they would never accepted a Touro student to their residency program again. So I asked why? They said they were just not prepared. Goodluck, i withdrew from Touro after i heard that. My interview at Touro-MI was a horrible experience for me.

I don't think this is true. Have you checked the residency match results of Touro students? I looked up their results for the recent years especially the class of 2007, most of them are matched into very competitive residency spots including the UCs and Stanford hospitals. And recently I spoke to a former chairman of the general surgery department at Kaiser, he told me one of their best residents was from Touro ! So I think what it really matters at the end is your board scores and determination.