Transitional to R2 ER spot

[ukdoc74]

Is it possible to jump from a transitional program to a R2 in a 3 year ER residency.

If it is possible how can one tailor a transitional program to save one year of residency. For example, would it be possible if one uses 5 months of free elective time for ER rotations? Would it take that much elective months in ER?

Any insight from people here would be appreciated. Also, if BKN would comment that would also be helpful.

 

[EctopicFetus]

uhh the only way is to go to a 2-4 program. I cant imagine anyone would let you hop into a 1-3 as an R2....

 

[EctopicFetus]

I have heard of IM people (who completed a whole residency) getting 6 months credit though...

 

[Apollyon]

If you've done 2 years of another program, you can get up to 6 months credit (credited month by month - one at a time) for "time served". This is not limited to IM, but that's where most of the overlap comes from.

 

[Dr.Evil1]

Remeber though you need 2 consecutive years in one program in order to graduate.

I don't think that many places would give you a full year of credit for a transitional year. A place may give you a couple of months of credit so that you could graduate in like 3.5 years total (1 year transitional, 2.5 years EM). I think that they would only do this though if they lost a resident and were in desperate need.

 

[dlung]

Knowing some friends who've gone through the residency transfer process, it seems pretty tough to get any sort of 'credit' at all... I'd expect any credit to be for off-service rotations where they barely know you're there anyways (ie OB, Rads, Anesthesia)... good luck trying to get out of any Medicine wards months--they usually expect the extra manpower from the EM programs. So if you were to match into a 1-3 program, I wouldn't expect to get much.

 

[BKN]

Is it possible to jump from a transitional program to a R2 in a 3 year ER residency.

If it is possible how can one tailor a transitional program to save one year of residency. For example, would it be possible if one uses 5 months of free elective time for ER rotations? Would it take that much elective months in ER?

Any insight from people here would be appreciated. Also, if BKN would comment that would also be helpful.

A transitional year will not help at all, sorry. The requirement is 36 months of training in an EM program. The point of view of the RRC and ABEM is that 1-3 programs and 2-4 programs are identical EM 1-3 programs.

Rules for previous training credit are on the ABEM web site. Short form:

1. Must have 24 months of acgme accredited training served within the 5 years prior to starting the EM program
2. PD must be willing to do this-but no promises to try until after the match
3. New resident must provide a letter from former program detailing all rotations served.
4. PD must apply to ABEM specifying which rotations are to be forgiven and justifying the equivalency of the previous training. Application must be received after match but before resident begins training.
5. No more than 6 months credit.
6. No ED rotations can be done by credit.


Yes, it's rigid. But we've done it for a lot of residents. Typically a trained FP can get 5-6 months of credit at our place. Surgeons and Internists perhaps 4.