C Chocolatebear89 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jan 11, 2009 Messages 70 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Pre-Medical Aug 3, 2010 #1 Advertisement - Members don't see this ad Hi,I was wondering what's the relationship between pkA and pKb for a triprotic acid, like H3PO4. I know for Carbonic acid (H2CO3), pKa1+ pKb2= 14 and pKa2 + pKb1= 14
Advertisement - Members don't see this ad Hi,I was wondering what's the relationship between pkA and pKb for a triprotic acid, like H3PO4. I know for Carbonic acid (H2CO3), pKa1+ pKb2= 14 and pKa2 + pKb1= 14
R Rabolisk Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jun 19, 2010 Messages 847 Reaction score 7 Points 4,551 Aug 3, 2010 #2 Likewise, pKa1 + pKb3 = 14 pKa2 + pKb2 = 14 pKa3 + pKb1 = 14 Ka1 of a triprotic acid is the equilibrium constant for H3A --> H2A- + H+ Kb3 of a triprotic acid is the equilibrium constant for H2A- + H2O --> H3A + OH- Same logic applies to the rest. Upvote 0 Downvote
Likewise, pKa1 + pKb3 = 14 pKa2 + pKb2 = 14 pKa3 + pKb1 = 14 Ka1 of a triprotic acid is the equilibrium constant for H3A --> H2A- + H+ Kb3 of a triprotic acid is the equilibrium constant for H2A- + H2O --> H3A + OH- Same logic applies to the rest.
C Chocolatebear89 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jan 11, 2009 Messages 70 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Pre-Medical Aug 3, 2010 #3 Wait, so kB3 does not correspond with the last conjugate base, but conjugate base of the first acid? Upvote 0 Downvote
R Rabolisk Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jun 19, 2010 Messages 847 Reaction score 7 Points 4,551 Aug 4, 2010 #4 Kb3 corresponds with the conjugate base of the "first" acid, because this is the "last" base. The three bases are, "in order", A3-, HA2-, and H2A-. Upvote 0 Downvote
Kb3 corresponds with the conjugate base of the "first" acid, because this is the "last" base. The three bases are, "in order", A3-, HA2-, and H2A-.
C Chocolatebear89 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jan 11, 2009 Messages 70 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Pre-Medical Aug 4, 2010 #5 in order of basicity? Upvote 0 Downvote
R Rabolisk Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jun 19, 2010 Messages 847 Reaction score 7 Points 4,551 Aug 4, 2010 #6 Right. Kb1 refers to A3-, Kb2 to HA2-, and so on. That's the convention. Upvote 0 Downvote