Truth about pharmacy

[Genius123]

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I just dropped out of pharmacy school. I was in my first year and realized that it was not for me. I do not like science nor do I like anything about pharmacy. However even those that love science, I still think you will soon join my hatred for this mindless profession. There are perhaps 4 things I could think of that are more pointless than these professional pill counters but those are just 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, and 4th year pharmacy students.
I do not mean to talk down to pharmacy students, but just to warn you of the meaningless future career days that await you at your local CVS. Yes, i realize that pharmacists are paid quite well, but hey, i would rather do something worthwhile and something I truly like instead of just having money. I mean the guys at jackass make millions, so would you take that to eat s***, and get punched in your privates by midgets? If your answer is yes, then perhaps you have chosen a fitting profession. Also, who likes standing for 8 hours a day? Personally, it hurts my back, and I really like my back.
For those people that actually work at hospitals, congratulations, you are now and MD's b****, actually thats being optimistic, you will probably a nurse's b****. Why not man up and take the harder road and go to medical school. The workload in Pharmacy school is not overwhelming, I did not drop out due to my grades. I was doing fine, grades wise, but somewhere along the line, I realized that 90% of people can not distinguish between the CVS cashier, and their pharmacist, including me. If you really wanna do science and help people, why not help people, instead of verifying pills?
For those of you thinking that I should have thought about this before pharmacy school, I admit, its my fault. I did it for my parents, and it took me awhile to realize that I hate this career. To all of you that actually want to be a pharmacist and learn about drugs and learn about the body, good luck to all of you. For everyone else, just remember, you’re not a REAL doctor.

 

[117296]

I just dropped out of pharmacy school. I was in my first year and realized that it was not for me. I do not like science nor do I like anything about pharmacy. However even those that love science, I still think you will soon join my hatred for this mindless profession. There are perhaps 4 things I could think of that are more pointless than these professional pill counters but those are just 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, and 4th year pharmacy students.
I do not mean to talk down to pharmacy students, but just to warn you of the meaningless future career days that await you at your local CVS. Yes, i realize that pharmacists are paid quite well, but hey, i would rather do something worthwhile and something I truly like instead of just having money. I mean the guys at jackass make millions, so would you take that to eat s***, and get punched in your privates by midgets? If your answer is yes, then perhaps you have chosen a fitting profession. Also, who likes standing for 8 hours a day? Personally, it hurts my back, and I really like my back.
For those people that actually work at hospitals, congratulations, you are now and MD's b****, actually thats being optimistic, you will probably a nurse's b****. Why not man up and take the harder road and go to medical school. The workload in Pharmacy school is not overwhelming, I did not drop out due to my grades. I was doing fine, grades wise, but somewhere along the line, I realized that 90% of people can not distinguish between the CVS cashier, and their pharmacist, including me. If you really wanna do science and help people, why not help people, instead of verifying pills?
For those of you thinking that I should have thought about this before pharmacy school, I admit, its my fault. I did it for my parents, and it took me awhile to realize that I hate this career. To all of you that actually want to be a pharmacist and learn about drugs and learn about the body, good luck to all of you. For everyone else, just remember, you’re not a REAL doctor.

Give me a break. 👎

 

[PharmDstudent]

I just dropped out of pharmacy school. I was in my first year and realized that it was not for me. I do not like science nor do I like anything about pharmacy. However even those that love science, I still think you will soon join my hatred for this mindless profession. There are perhaps 4 things I could think of that are more pointless than these professional pill counters but those are just 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, and 4th year pharmacy students.
I do not mean to talk down to pharmacy students, but just to warn you of the meaningless future career days that await you at your local CVS. Yes, i realize that pharmacists are paid quite well, but hey, i would rather do something worthwhile and something I truly like instead of just having money. I mean the guys at jackass make millions, so would you take that to eat s***, and get punched in your privates by midgets? If your answer is yes, then perhaps you have chosen a fitting profession. Also, who likes standing for 8 hours a day? Personally, it hurts my back, and I really like my back.
For those people that actually work at hospitals, congratulations, you are now and MD's b****, actually thats being optimistic, you will probably a nurse's b****. Why not man up and take the harder road and go to medical school. The workload in Pharmacy school is not overwhelming, I did not drop out due to my grades. I was doing fine, grades wise, but somewhere along the line, I realized that 90% of people can not distinguish between the CVS cashier, and their pharmacist, including me. If you really wanna do science and help people, why not help people, instead of verifying pills?
For those of you thinking that I should have thought about this before pharmacy school, I admit, its my fault. I did it for my parents, and it took me awhile to realize that I hate this career. To all of you that actually want to be a pharmacist and learn about drugs and learn about the body, good luck to all of you. For everyone else, just remember, you're not a REAL doctor.

That's why you're suppose to get experience before you go to pharmacy school. Duh!

There's a hidden rule for students. I'll expose it right now... you don't choose a career, because your parents want you to. You choose a career, because you want that career.

If I did what my parents wanted me to do, I'd be going to medical school right now to become a psychiatrist.
After working in a pharmacy for about a year, I knew that I didn't need to know anything else about peoples' personal lives other than what I would hear as a pharmacist.
I would rather verify pills than sanity.

Although, I do like my share of sweet and crazy old ladies. My favorite old lady right now speaks Dutch, and we talk about cookies and other goodies 😀.

 

[StallionRx]

Dude- good riddance. I could care less what you do with your life or what you think of the profession. The bottom line is Im happy and your not. Go find something else. I highly doubt grades werent an issue, your grammar and spelling blows. I had to read your rant twice to understand some of your sentences.

Complaining about your back after 8 hours? Psht.

I stand for 13 hours a day and never felt any type of pain. Go to the gym and grow a back.

 

[medicalCPA]

Good thing he's banned. Idiot.

 

[confettiflyer]

hahahaha what a loser...shoot, what a waste for him!

 

[CHARMO]

Poor guy. With anger like his, he had to have been kicked out. Now he wants to take it out here.

 

[andrewattheU]

wow its one thing to realize a profession is not for you but quite another to insult people in said profession

 

[Avrelian]

I would rather verify pills than sanity.

That's gold! Thanks

 

[PharmDstudent]

That's gold! Thanks

You're welcome! I get a little witty sometimes. I like to address the logical, ethical, or practical side of an argument rather than what's conventional or popular.

Verifying pills is the easiest part of a retail pharmacist's job! There's usually a little picture on the computer screen that shows you exactly what each pill looks like, so all you have to do is look up, down, and back up. How easy is that?! Who would complain about that??? That's like if a lawyer started complaining about signing his name... Geez. Signing your name is so elementary. (My friend's brother was joking with me a while back. He asks me, "So what do they teach you in school? How to count pills?" I respond by asking him, "What did you learn in law school? How to sign your name?")

 

[jpharmfarm]

i did it cause my mommy and daddy told me to.

you got a lotta growing up to do kid. good luck in 10 dollar per hours job having to swear the bills every month.

 

[BidingMyTime]

Methinks Genius is bitter about flunking out, but he's lucky to have figure out now. I had a class mate who decided after the first semester, 3rd year, that she hated pharmacy and wanted nothing more to do with it. She quit, with massive loads of debt. She was soooo close to finishing, I don't know why she just didn't finish it, work long enough to pay her debt, than go back to school and do anything she wanted. But I supposed, all the money in the world isn't enough, if a person has no happiness.

 

[ericn2k3]

MyTime,

I'll have to disagree with your last sentence there. With all the money in the world, I CAN buy my happiness. Money can buy you lots and lots of happiness!

 

[FAMUPharmD09]

I just dropped out of pharmacy school. I was in my first year and realized that it was not for me. I do not like science nor do I like anything about pharmacy. However even those that love science, I still think you will soon join my hatred for this mindless profession. There are perhaps 4 things I could think of that are more pointless than these professional pill counters but those are just 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, and 4th year pharmacy students.
I do not mean to talk down to pharmacy students, but just to warn you of the meaningless future career days that await you at your local CVS. Yes, i realize that pharmacists are paid quite well, but hey, i would rather do something worthwhile and something I truly like instead of just having money. I mean the guys at jackass make millions, so would you take that to eat s***, and get punched in your privates by midgets? If your answer is yes, then perhaps you have chosen a fitting profession. Also, who likes standing for 8 hours a day? Personally, it hurts my back, and I really like my back.
For those people that actually work at hospitals, congratulations, you are now and MD's b****, actually thats being optimistic, you will probably a nurse's b****. Why not man up and take the harder road and go to medical school. The workload in Pharmacy school is not overwhelming, I did not drop out due to my grades. I was doing fine, grades wise, but somewhere along the line, I realized that 90% of people can not distinguish between the CVS cashier, and their pharmacist, including me. If you really wanna do science and help people, why not help people, instead of verifying pills?
For those of you thinking that I should have thought about this before pharmacy school, I admit, its my fault. I did it for my parents, and it took me awhile to realize that I hate this career. To all of you that actually want to be a pharmacist and learn about drugs and learn about the body, good luck to all of you. For everyone else, just remember, you’re not a REAL doctor.

What a fool! I really do feel sorry for him.

 

[Old Timer]

MyTime,

I'll have to disagree with your last sentence there. With all the money in the world, I CAN buy my happiness. Money can buy you lots and lots of happiness!

If you are serious, you are one of the most foolish people I have ever encountered. Because there is a known and proven correlation between wealth and happiness.

 

[FutureRPh]

I heard a great quote the other day. "Find a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life". If you don't feel this way about your profession then you should reconsider.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

I heard a great quote the other day. "Find a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life". If you don't feel this way about your profession then you should reconsider.

What if your only interests are things you can't get paid to do? Yeah, then you're just screwed.

 

[Epic]

I heard a great quote the other day. "Find a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life". If you don't feel this way about your profession then you should reconsider.

Cool! I'll be a recreational golfer... can I get paid for doing that?

 

[confettiflyer]

If you are serious, you are one of the most foolish people I have ever encountered. Because there is a known and proven correlation between wealth and happiness.

haha...there actually is, but it's not what you think. They compared people making $20k, $50k, and $90k. Those at $50k were MUCH happier than those making $20k, but those making $90k were only marginally happier.

Not sure of the parameters of the study, but once you get your basics taken care of...any extra money is just for pure ego.

 

[jawnly211]

sadly

this guy's viewpoint of pharmacy is the stereotype we get from the majority of the general population

i have only been through 32 years of life and, fortunately, i really don't care too much about what others think about me........i live life for god, my family, and myself........yea, call me selfish, but if i cared so much about perception, then i will go the remainder of my life fighting for things i can change in only a few.........

compared to 20 years ago, i believe pharmacy has come a long way.......with respect to other health professionals........you still have those old school doctors who think we goto school for 4 years to learn how to call insurance companies.......i think the main reason we gained any respect to the lay person is our hourly wage.........hey! im not complaining

america........where your status in society is based on the number of zeros you have AFTER the "1" in your checkbook and how many initials you have after your name...........i guess we should be happy that we have evolved from RPh to PharmD

big ups to the rest of my PharmD brothers out there who did not burn out like this guy who started this thread.........let the bitter ones leave the profession........hope he enjoys nursing

 

[SonicDeathMonki]

While I think the original post was a bit callous, I understand this individuals concerns. I'm currently in pharmacy school, and a lot of what I'm finding is very disheartening to me. I could handle working at a CVS or taking nurses orders, but I think the career is really stressful and I'm not sure it has a great future. Right now chain stores have become dominant, but pretty soon mail order will take over as PBMs and HMOs push for faster, cheaper, and more efficient routes of delivery.

 

[Noye1337]

Damn... I have had more than a week clinical experience following a pharmacist and I absolutely loved it. I loved doing the calculations, making IV meds and everything. You just didn't know what you were getting into.

 

[1TB4RKSB4CK]

Bet this guy didn't even make it through high school :/

 

[rxforlife2004]

Actually what he wrote is pretty much sad but correct about the reality. I wouldn't ban him if I am a mod... Oh well

 

[TemSirolimus]

While I think the original post was a bit callous, I understand this individuals concerns. I'm currently in pharmacy school, and a lot of what I'm finding is very disheartening to me. I could handle working at a CVS or taking nurses orders, but I think the career is really stressful and I'm not sure it has a great future. Right now chain stores have become dominant, but pretty soon mail order will take over as PBMs and HMOs push for faster, cheaper, and more efficient routes of delivery.

True..the OP was obviously over the top and bitterly pointed.

Nevertheless, I am just finishing up an rotation at a national retail chain (severely short staffed tech wise) and what I have seen first hand is VERY disheartening. I would never be a retail pharmacist.

Picture this, real life scenario: Several cars on the drive through lane, 2 waiters, phone ringing, a customer throwing a fit because diapers are not covered by medicare?, out of stock on some meds,* add another aggravation here..etc. On top of that, the pharmacist never gets a decent break or even time to take a piss. The level of stress is unprecedented.

Why the eff would anybody want to do that regardless of what they are getting paid?

 

[ucrx]

Has anyone else noticed that the original post was over 2 years ago?

 

[Charlottefromca]

True..the OP was obviously over the top and bitterly pointed.

Nevertheless, I am just finishing up an rotation at a national retail chain (severely short staffed tech wise) and what I have seen first hand is VERY disheartening. I would never be a retail pharmacist.

Picture this, real life scenario: Several cars on the drive through lane, 2 waiters, phone ringing, a customer throwing a fit because diapers are not covered by medicare?, out of stock on some meds,* add another aggravation here..etc. On top of that, the pharmacist never gets a decent break or even time to take a piss. The level of stress is unprecedented.

Why the eff would anybody want to do that regardless of what they are getting paid?

Retail pharmacy is definitely not a perfect job and its not for everyone. You have to be the type of person who has the courage to take a piss.. when you need to take a piss 🙄

Seriously.. the best retail pharmacists I have worked with are people who keep their cool even in the most stressful circumstances. You can only do what you are capable of so there is no point in stressing the rest.

 

[Medwell]

i did it cause my mommy and daddy told me to.

you got a lotta growing up to do kid. good luck in 10 dollar per hours job having to swear the bills every month.

>he thinks growing up involves doing what his parents tell him to

 

[TonyRx]

Yea agreed. In retail settings you just have to keep your cool, don't take things personal, and work within your limitations. Yea it sucks at times and things get hectic but it's important to keep things in perspective. The vast majority of society work like dogs, 50-60+ hrs/week for a lot less money and often times just as much or more stress. And if you are in a career that happens to pay 120k year (comparable to pharmacist), you are most likely endowed with an enormous amount of responsibility and a heavy workload. Like being on-call, taking work home, constantly worrying about work, being in a competitive and stressful managerial/supervision role, etc.

So, given we can make 120k a year on 40-45 hrs/week with little to zero responsibility outside of work...I would say we have it pretty well. I know so many people, including my parents, who bust their hump on a daily basis to make an average living. I think those who constantly complain just need to walk a day in someone else's shoes to gain a little respect and perspective.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying being a pharmacist is cake. But stress to compensation ratio is much better than what most people put up with.

 

[tungsten87]

Yea agreed. In retail settings you just have to keep your cool, don't take things personal, and work within your limitations. Yea it sucks at times and things get hectic but it's important to keep things in perspective. The vast majority of society work like dogs, 50-60+ hrs/week for a lot less money and often times just as much or more stress. And if you are in a career that happens to pay 120k year (comparable to pharmacist), you are most likely endowed with an enormous amount of responsibility and a heavy workload. Like being on-call, taking work home, constantly worrying about work, being in a competitive and stressful managerial/supervision role, etc.

So, given we can make 120k a year on 40-45 hrs/week with little to zero responsibility outside of work...I would say we have it pretty well. I know so many people, including my parents, who bust their hump on a daily basis to make an average living. I think those who constantly complain just need to walk a day in someone else's shoes to gain a little respect and perspective.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying being a pharmacist is cake. But stress to compensation ratio is much better than what most people put up with.

Would you say that retail pharmacists maybe had it too easy before the bubble burst? Just curious.

 

[TonyRx]

Yea, I think that could be said. Pharmacists definitely have more responsibilities and duties now. Also couple that with a sluggish economy that has lead to decreased tech help and increased pissed off patients and other factors. I think the stress level has increased, but so has that of almost every working American who has felt the crunch at work. But, we still get paid very well for our stress and we can leave work at work...majority of the time.

 

[Ilikechemicals]

I mean the guys at jackass make millions... and get punched in your privates by midgets

I would gladly take a million dollars to have a midget hit me in my junk(correct PC term).

 

[rxlea]

True..the OP was obviously over the top and bitterly pointed.

Nevertheless, I am just finishing up an rotation at a national retail chain (severely short staffed tech wise) and what I have seen first hand is VERY disheartening. I would never be a retail pharmacist.

Picture this, real life scenario: Several cars on the drive through lane, 2 waiters, phone ringing, a customer throwing a fit because diapers are not covered by medicare?, out of stock on some meds,* add another aggravation here..etc. On top of that, the pharmacist never gets a decent break or even time to take a piss. The level of stress is unprecedented.

Why the eff would anybody want to do that regardless of what they are getting paid?

I have seen it too (even back in '04) and it bothers me that nothing is being done about it.

Retail pharmacy is definitely not a perfect job and its not for everyone. You have to be the type of person who has the courage to take a piss.. when you need to take a piss 🙄

Seriously.. the best retail pharmacists I have worked with are people who keep their cool even in the most stressful circumstances. You can only do what you are capable of so there is no point in stressing the rest.

Easier said than done. I don't think it has anything to do with courage, though...

The reality is that many pharmacists endure abuse in the workplace. No one should have to go an entire shift (14 hours at times) without eating or using the bathroom. In many states, it is against the law. The fact that our impotent national organizations have actually done nothing to stand up against this modern day form of cruelty is truly disconcerting.

 

[owlegrad]

I have seen it too (even back in '04) and it bothers me that nothing is being done about it.



Easier said than done. I don't think it has anything to do with courage, though...

The reality is that many pharmacists endure abuse in the workplace. No one should have to go an entire shift (14 hours at times) without eating or using the bathroom. In many states, it is against the law. The fact that our impotent national organizations have actually done nothing to stand up against this modern day form of cruelty is truly disconcerting.

I like your sig.

 

[Quiksilver]

Has anyone else noticed that the original post was over 2 years ago?

Or that the first couple posts that bumped this thread were noobs?

This was obviously a troll.

This thread is worthless

 

[tungsten87]

Or that the first couple posts that bumped this thread were noobs?

This was obviously a troll.

This thread is worthless

dude you should be in a better mood... the bills won.

 

[Quiksilver]

dude you should be in a better mood... the bills won.

Except when you have dealt win marginal middle 1st round selections for 15 years. You have an opportunity to pick first overall (or hell the top 3) and they win a few meaningless games. Blah. It was blacked out in the area so no one saw it.

Being a Buffalo sports fan is like wanting to be kicked in the cash and prizes for fun. My only consolation is that I root for the Yankees because they are everything the Bills and Sabres will never be.

 

[tungsten87]

Except when you have dealt win marginal middle 1st round selections for 15 years. You have an opportunity to pick first overall (or hell the top 3) and they win a few meaningless games. Blah. It was blacked out in the area so no one saw it.

Being a Buffalo sports fan is like wanting to be kicked in the cash and prizes for fun. My only consolation is that I root for the Yankees because they are everything the Bills and Sabres will never be.

that picture of brett hull scoring the goal with the foot in the crease is engraved into my mind..

 

[Quiksilver]

that picture of brett hull scoring the goal with the foot in the crease is engraved into my mind..

yup and theres "wide right," the forward lateral in the last playoff game the bills were in, the was john leclairs goal that went through the side of the net, and theres a few more too.

 

[rph3664]

Methinks Genius is bitter about flunking out, but he's lucky to have figure out now. I had a class mate who decided after the first semester, 3rd year, that she hated pharmacy and wanted nothing more to do with it. She quit, with massive loads of debt. She was soooo close to finishing, I don't know why she just didn't finish it, work long enough to pay her debt, than go back to school and do anything she wanted. But I supposed, all the money in the world isn't enough, if a person has no happiness.

A woman in the class after me changed her major the semester before rotations, which at that time were just the last semester. She got a Bachelor in General Studies degree! Seriously. I didn't get it either - why not just finish and then get a second degree while working part-time as a pharmacist - but I didn't know her well enough to ask her. Her parents were both pharmacists, and I suspect they wanted her to do this so they could take over the store, and maybe she was about to flunk out anyway. IDK.

 

[spacecowgirl]

Who exhumed this corpse thread?

 

[All4MyDaughter]

Who exhumed this corpse thread?

I know, right? I'm LOLing at all the people quoting and responding directly to posts that are 2+ years old.

 

[SonicDeathMonki]

yeah that idiot must have failed out of school, what a loser!

 

[Max12]

" I realized that 90% of people can not distinguish between the CVS cashier, and their pharmacist, including me."


Here is a short primer on community pharmacy:

Community pharmacists CAN and SHOULD play a vital role in each person's health. A community pharmacist can find out a patient's medication history before dispensing drugs with possible interactions. A CM can keep track of patient's prescribed dosage and whether refills are being fulfilled. A CM can instruct proper technique and usage of the various inhalers a parents may have for an Asthmatic child.

At a minimum, a CM should hold him or herself accountable for each drug dispensed or OTC product recommended to each patient. Many elderly patients have a dozen drugs to take and multiple doctors, who may or may not be talking to each other about the drugs they prescribe. Doctors make mistakes. Doctors are not the experts in everything drugs. Pharmacists are.

Not every community pharmacy focuses on maximizing the # of prescriptions dispensed. A Walgreens may dispense 500 a day while a Target may do just 150. Some pharmacies encourage the pharmacist to build rapport with patients and become each patient's pharmacist.

 

[owlegrad]

Don't forget you got into that school telling your interviewer how compassionate and sympathetic you are.

I don't know why this jumped out at me given all the other much more inflammatory hyperbole in your post, but it did and for some reason I felt like responding to it.

I didn't claim to be compassionate or sympathetic in my interview. Neither of those qualities came up in any of my interviews. I would appreciate it if you do not project on to others (specifically me) what you think everyone else is doing.

 

[crossurfingers]

Yea agreed. In retail settings you just have to keep your cool, don't take things personal, and work within your limitations. Yea it sucks at times and things get hectic but it's important to keep things in perspective. The vast majority of society work like dogs, 50-60+ hrs/week for a lot less money and often times just as much or more stress. And if you are in a career that happens to pay 120k year (comparable to pharmacist), you are most likely endowed with an enormous amount of responsibility and a heavy workload. Like being on-call, taking work home, constantly worrying about work, being in a competitive and stressful managerial/supervision role, etc.

So, given we can make 120k a year on 40-45 hrs/week with little to zero responsibility outside of work...I would say we have it pretty well. I know so many people, including my parents, who bust their hump on a daily basis to make an average living. I think those who constantly complain just need to walk a day in someone else's shoes to gain a little respect and perspective.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying being a pharmacist is cake. But stress to compensation ratio is much better than what most people put up with.

Yeah I had my own reality check when these programs offering the certified pharmacy technician classes started sending their students to intern at our retail pharmacy. One of the interns had another job that started at 7:30am until 3:30pm then showed up at the pharmacy from 5:00pm til 10:00pm plus she has kids! Another of the the techs has two jobs as well, same time. And here I was bitching about working my measly 40 hour (or even sometimes less) work week for quadruple (or possibly more) what they are making. We really are very lucky and blessed to be in our position. I have a nice car, get to go on nice vacations, don't live paycheck to paycheck and don't break my back working super long hours. I'm pretty happy right now. It really is your perspective. 🙂

 

[TonyRx]

Yeah I had my own reality check when these programs offering the certified pharmacy technician classes started sending their students to intern at our retail pharmacy. One of the interns had another job that started at 7:30am until 3:30pm then showed up at the pharmacy from 5:00pm til 10:00pm plus she has kids! Another of the the techs has two jobs as well, same time. And here I was bitching about working my measly 40 hour (or even sometimes less) work week for quadruple (or possibly more) what they are making. We really are very lucky and blessed to be in our position. I have a nice car, get to go on nice vacations, don't live paycheck to paycheck and don't break my back working super long hours. I'm pretty happy right now. It really is your perspective. 🙂

Nice story, well said.

 

[Quiksilver]

I wasn't trying to dig up a corpse of a thread, but I need to add a few more things. First of all, I think pharmacy is a fantastic profession, and pharmacists have an excellent knowledge of drugs. I think there is an excellent opportunity for pharmacist to improve patient outcomes in medication therapy and I know that they have great potential. All this said, I unfortunately don't believe this is the direction the industry is moving in. While all my time, money, and energy is tide up in the hopes that pharmacist will be better recognized as the experts they are, I'm getting a very different message at work.

I believe the public still sees pharmacists as dispensers, but not only the general public even members of health care such as physicians and nurses. The industry is trying to save more and more money, this means hiring part-time pharmacists and foreign pharmacist with BS degrees and more technicians and using more technology such as automated dispensers and pill counters. New inferior pharmacy schools with much lower demands for admissions and curriculum are shooting out new graduates in higher numbers then could have ever been imagined 10 years ago. For the first time ever major chains are activating hiring freezes and many geographical regions have become over saturated with pharmacists. Sure people say that the physical pharmacy store isn't going any where any time soon. But think back just 10 years ago when HMOs and PBMs started putting incentives on generic drugs (tier system), back then no one would have thought for a second that generics which were seen as inferior would have come up from 5% of the market to dominate with almost 70% current infiltration, but they did. Now there all pushing mail order, its quicker, cheaper, more accurate, more efficient, and it saves on the bottom line ($$$). You, honestly think this isn't going to be the future? Are you out of your mind? They don't need to pay expensive rent on a store all the merchandise, employees, managers, and pharmacists. And pharmacist aren't even really needed, vast arrays of databases and catalogs of information on medication can be found on the internet, you can youtube an expert consultation on any drug anytime you like. Of course, this is where pharmacy is going.

Further more, shame on all of you who laugh off the original guy who started this post, dismissing his comments that he probably just failed out. The jokes going to be on all of you (and me too for that matter) when your buried in debt and can't find a job to pay it off. Oh yeah laugh now, when you brag to your family and friends that your going to some big time school for a DOCTORATE degree, and your going to be making $120,000 a year!!! Whatever!!! Don't forget you got into that school telling your interviewer how compassionate and sympathetic you are. Strange how quick you can change when you have the opportunity to put someone down, you think you're better than. Any of you that did this, disgust me. To me, you are exactly what is wrong with this profession. And for those who think, this is America all that matters is how much money you make and your title, well you don't have a clue what America is really about, and that doesn't surprise me because few real Americans are dumb enough and cowardly enough to jump on this sinking ship of a profession.

I'm buried so deep in this now, I can't stop and I need to graduate, but I think its pathetic how everyone sits around tell each other how great they are for being doctors and making big money 😀.

Wow. you are going to make a good pharmacist one day. You told us.🙄

 

[homeslice]

I wasn't trying to dig up a corpse of a thread, but I need to add a few more things. First of all, I think pharmacy is a fantastic profession, and pharmacists have an excellent knowledge of drugs. I think there is an excellent opportunity for pharmacist to improve patient outcomes in medication therapy and I know that they have great potential. All this said, I unfortunately don't believe this is the direction the industry is moving in. While all my time, money, and energy is tide up in the hopes that pharmacist will be better recognized as the experts they are, I'm getting a very different message at work.

I believe the public still sees pharmacists as dispensers, but not only the general public even members of health care such as physicians and nurses. The industry is trying to save more and more money, this means hiring part-time pharmacists and foreign pharmacist with BS degrees and more technicians and using more technology such as automated dispensers and pill counters. New inferior pharmacy schools with much lower demands for admissions and curriculum are shooting out new graduates in higher numbers then could have ever been imagined 10 years ago. For the first time ever major chains are activating hiring freezes and many geographical regions have become over saturated with pharmacists. Sure people say that the physical pharmacy store isn't going any where any time soon. But think back just 10 years ago when HMOs and PBMs started putting incentives on generic drugs (tier system), back then no one would have thought for a second that generics which were seen as inferior would have come up from 5% of the market to dominate with almost 70% current infiltration, but they did. Now there all pushing mail order, its quicker, cheaper, more accurate, more efficient, and it saves on the bottom line ($$$). You, honestly think this isn't going to be the future? Are you out of your mind? They don't need to pay expensive rent on a store all the merchandise, employees, managers, and pharmacists. And pharmacist aren't even really needed, vast arrays of databases and catalogs of information on medication can be found on the internet, you can youtube an expert consultation on any drug anytime you like. Of course, this is where pharmacy is going.

Further more, shame on all of you who laugh off the original guy who started this post, dismissing his comments that he probably just failed out. The jokes going to be on all of you (and me too for that matter) when your buried in debt and can't find a job to pay it off. Oh yeah laugh now, when you brag to your family and friends that your going to some big time school for a DOCTORATE degree, and your going to be making $120,000 a year!!! Whatever!!! Don't forget you got into that school telling your interviewer how compassionate and sympathetic you are. Strange how quick you can change when you have the opportunity to put someone down, you think you're better than. Any of you that did this, disgust me. To me, you are exactly what is wrong with this profession. And for those who think, this is America all that matters is how much money you make and your title, well you don't have a clue what America is really about, and that doesn't surprise me because few real Americans are dumb enough and cowardly enough to jump on this sinking ship of a profession.

I'm buried so deep in this now, I can't stop and I need to graduate, but I think its pathetic how everyone sits around tell each other how great they are for being doctors and making big money 😀.

Does not compute.

 

[rxlea]

Does not compute.

I was thinking the same thing. And what is a "real American"? All those pre-pharms must be fake Americans?