Tulane ACP or DO?

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Hi,
I was recently accepted to Tulane's ACP program off of the waitlist. At the same time, I was also accepted to several DO schools including UMDNJ-SOM. I would not have even been able to apply to Tulane's ACP without my waitlist letter at UMDNJSOM first..
Should I go DO or enroll in the ACP? I know I've gotten a lot of advice from all of you in these forums for quite some time now but It would help to have even more perspective since the acceptance to the ACP only recently became an option for me. Please advise. Thank you!
 
Hi,
I was recently accepted to Tulane's ACP program off of the waitlist. At the same time, I was also accepted to several DO schools including UMDNJ-SOM. I would not have even been able to apply to Tulane's ACP without my waitlist letter at UMDNJSOM first..
Should I go DO or enroll in the ACP? I know I've gotten a lot of advice from all of you in these forums for quite some time now but It would help to have even more perspective since the acceptance to the ACP only recently became an option for me. Please advise. Thank you!

Go to medical school. You applied to DO schools because you were interested in them right? Then go and don't worry about the letters behind your name, you are going to be a doctor don't throw it away on the chance that you may, just may get into Tulane after their ACP.

Go to medical school and count it as a victory.
 
Go to tulane. Just reapply to med school (including DO) during the ACP year in case you don't get into tulanes MD program.
 
Hi,
I was recently accepted to Tulane's ACP program off of the waitlist. At the same time, I was also accepted to several DO schools including UMDNJ-SOM. I would not have even been able to apply to Tulane's ACP without my waitlist letter at UMDNJSOM first..
Should I go DO or enroll in the ACP? I know I've gotten a lot of advice from all of you in these forums for quite some time now but It would help to have even more perspective since the acceptance to the ACP only recently became an option for me. Please advise. Thank you!

No matter what you do, you’re on solid footing and can’t really make a wrong decision.

The main thing you have to decide is if you want to start becoming a DO today or spend the extra year and (likely) end up at the Tulane SOM.

Have you looked at the logistics of both places? Will you need to take out loans for both places? IIRC the Tulane ACP isn’t a degree granting program and thus ineligible for normal grad student loans, and thus if you need loans you will have to go the private loan route which could be a bit messy (and the reason Dr. Midlife ultimately chose not to go to the Tulane ACP if I remember correctly).

Are there any reasons to decide to wait a year to start on the path to becoming a doctor? Maybe you just need a year of partial med school classes to get into the swing of things? Then the Tulane ACP may be for you. Is it because you really want that MD over that DO? Then you might take the ACP route. Almost everyone would say that there is no difference between the two besides the letters, but vanity and pride are strong motivators that I myself have been guilty of. It’s hard to let go of wanting to be an MD in a society that pushes us to be the best of the best of the best. Is it worth spending a year of your time to prove yourself for those letters? Or in fifty years will you look back on this time and say I wish I didn’t fret so much on the difference? Again, these things are a personal decision you have to make for yourself and weigh the pros and cons of.

My personal opinion would be to start medical school and become part of the class of 2016. I think it would be disingenuous to tell you otherwise to pay for another year of reapplication and stress in hoping you’ll get above the curve in anatomy to start med school a year later. I also don’t know how DO schools look at reapplicants who have already been accepted to a DO program.

One person who may be able to give better advice than anyone here is a user by the name of Swimchick. She ended up going to the Tulane ACP program, just barely missed the average for anatomy(?) there and subsequently ended up going to a DO school after the Tulane ACP. If she still comes around these parts she’d be able to tell you best of all what the ACP and DO is like.

Again though, in the end you can’t really make a wrong choice. You’ve proven you’ll make a capable physician. UMDNJ knows this and they want you today. But no matter what you do a few years from now this decision will be a minor thing and you’ll be off to residency, and 20 years from now you’ll be a capable physician. Just try to keep that in mind and all will be well.
 
(and the reason Dr. Midlife ultimately chose not to go to the Tulane ACP if I remember correctly).
Financing school wasn't the problem - I got a private loan approved by either Chase or Wells Fargo (can't remember). The problem was that I can't get health insurance in the private market for less than about $1500/mo. OMG this country.

But I can confirm that there are woefully few private student loans for programs that aren't degree-granting. Tulane ACP is "off the reservation" as far as normal financial aid goes - the Tulane financial aid office isn't involved at all.

Best of luck to you.
 
Go to medical school. You applied to DO schools because you were interested in them right? Then go and don't worry about the letters behind your name, you are going to be a doctor don't throw it away on the chance that you may, just may get into Tulane after their ACP.

Go to medical school and count it as a victory.

Go to tulane. Just reapply to med school (including DO) during the ACP year in case you don't get into tulanes MD program.
Hmmmm... while being contradictory, both of these make sense to me.

I hope to be in a similar position one day!
 
Hi,
I was recently accepted to Tulane's ACP program off of the waitlist. At the same time, I was also accepted to several DO schools including UMDNJ-SOM. I would not have even been able to apply to Tulane's ACP without my waitlist letter at UMDNJSOM first..
Should I go DO or enroll in the ACP? I know I've gotten a lot of advice from all of you in these forums for quite some time now but It would help to have even more perspective since the acceptance to the ACP only recently became an option for me. Please advise. Thank you!

Question: do you want to be a DO in 4 years or an MD in 5?
 
I would take into consideration if you want to specialize or are dead set in picking something in primary care where it would not make a huge difference if you went MD or DO. Personally, I would pick Tulane ACP but I view Tulane as one of my dream schools so that's why I would take that risk.
 
Go to tulane. Just reapply to med school (including DO) during the ACP year in case you don't get into tulanes MD program.

Why bother? Why wouldn't he just apply to smps again if he didn't get in? If DO isn't good enough for him this round why would it be next round?

If you apply to medical schools and get accepted and decide meh... I don't want to go there its a DO SCHOOL :scared: , then why in the world did you apply there in the first place? Don't apply to school you don't want to go to.
 
I would take into consideration if you want to specialize or are dead set in picking something in primary care where it would not make a huge difference if you went MD or DO. Personally, I would pick Tulane ACP but I view Tulane as one of my dream schools so that's why I would take that risk.

:wtf: DOs specialize all the time. They become surgeons,hem/onco, radiologists, ob/gyns and many other specialists. The most DO also match into MD residencies. Careful what you say, we don't need an MD vs DO flame war here.
 
:wtf: DOs specialize all the time. They become surgeons,hem/onco, radiologists, ob/gyns and many other specialists. The most DO also match into MD residencies. Careful what you say, we don't need an MD vs DO flame war here.

:wtf:Seriously, chill out. I never said DOs don't specialize; it's sad to think that you jumped to that extreme conclusion. There clearly is a difference between MDs and DOs when it comes to obtaining residency placements in competitive specialties and that is something the OP needs to take into account if he/she has an idea what field he/she will go into. Any person considering going to DO school really needs to take this into account. Personally, I like the osteopathic philosophy a lot, but I'm also aware of how residency directors think. Not starting a MD vs. DO flame war at all.
 
Hey! I am a junior in University. I have been studying really hard for the mcat and just got my scores back recently. I scored a solid 29Q. I figure that is good enough for DO schools, but after what tennisstar89 said I think that it would be better for me to just apply to the Tulane ACP program and then go to an MD school. My GPA isn't so hot, a 3.59 right now, but I have a year to get it up! What does everyone think?

Is it worth it to just apply to the Tulane ACP program instead of going to a DO school?

I heard that Tulane is a great school and really want to party it up in New Orleans!!!!
 
Hey! I am a junior in University. I have been studying really hard for the mcat and just got my scores back recently. I scored a solid 29Q. I figure that is good enough for DO schools, but after what tennisstar89 said I think that it would be better for me to just apply to the Tulane ACP program and then go to an MD school. My GPA isn't so hot, a 3.59 right now, but I have a year to get it up! What does everyone think?

Is it worth it to just apply to the Tulane ACP program instead of going to a DO school?

I heard that Tulane is a great school and really want to party it up in New Orleans!!!!

with your stats you should apply MD and ACP this upcoming cycle, unless you are from a state like Cal or NY. if you can get a 30+ mcat retake you can just focus on MD
 
Former ACP student here. My vote is ACP, and it has relatively little to do with the "MD versus DO" thing.

Basically, you work hard during the ACP year, and then your first year is a breeze. You're a TA in the courses you took during ACP (anatomy, histology, neuroscience) which leaves plenty of time for working/research/exploring the diverse ecosystem that is the bar scene in New Orleans.

While I was an ACP student, I often wished that I could trade spots with my friends who were then T1s (our version of MS1s). After going through ACP and the first two years of medical school, I wouldn't do a thing differently. It's truly been a fantastic experience, and New Orleans is a one-of-a-kind city. Unless you're 30ish and itching to get started, take another year to enjoy yourself.
 
What kind of acceptance rate is it to get into tulane som after acceptance to the acp program?
 
What kind of acceptance rate is it to get into tulane som after acceptance to the acp program?

From the ACP website:
"Within the last five years approximately 86% of the ACP students were accepted to Tulane."

From Tulane's new Anatomy Master's website:
"Eighty-seven percent of graduates from the ACP program have subsequently been accepted into medical programs all over the country including Tulane University, Louisiana State University, University of Texas-Houston, and University of Southern California. Upon graduation from medical school, graduates have been matched to residency programs in Emergency Medicine, Internal Medicine, Family Medicine, Urology, and Otolaryngology in several medical centers including Tulane Medical Center, Johns Hopkins Hospital, University of Michigan, St. Luke's- Roosevelt Hospital, University of Chicago, and Mount Sinai Medical Center, New York."

From SDN:
Everyone who gets above the med school average in anatomy in the ACP program seems to be accepted to Tulane SOM.
 
I would go with ACP, the MD will keep all of your options open.
 
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