Tulane MD/MPH Program...?

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Hey guys,

Anyone getting the dual degree (MD/MPH) that could give me a little info about the program? Cost? Amount of extra work? Why your doing it, future goals etc...?, did you go down the summer before? And any other info would be great, thanks.

jeff

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Cost: 32 credit minimum for MD/MPH students, ~1k per credit hour

Extra Work: Your getting a masters degree on top of your MD coursework, so its largely what you'd expect. That said, its pretty darned easy. I've yet to meet anyone who's having difficulty handling the load, and the actual amount of that load depends on your department. Tropical medicine being the most difficult, and I'd guess International Health being the easiest, mainly due to the variability in that field's coursework (tons of electives, and thus you make it as hard or as easy as your want). Basically, don't let the extra work scare you away, its a nice change of pace from the med school work, and you'll be surprised how efficient you are at learning after a few months in med school.

Why am I doing it: For me, it directly correlates with what I want to do later in life. I am in the environmental health department and concentrating in disaster management. I want to go into EM and blah blah, you get the idea. I'd strongly suggest you figure out whether or not you will use/need the MPH. To do that you really need to have some vague idea of what residency you want. Lots of students just do it for the resume padding, but most have some idea/hope of using their coursework later on. I'll stop here as I can go on and on. Post what youre interested in and i can address that better.

Summer before: No i didn't. It makes it easier, you can finish a huge chunk of your coursework that summer if you load up on courses enough, but its certainly not necessary. If you do trop med it is a near necessity, its a tough road to wait until spring semester to start with that coursework, but it is doable. Other departments its no problem to wait. I didn't apply to the program until fall of my first year...

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Thanks Page, that's a huge help. I think I wanna go into EM down the road (although it's too early to be certain what I want to go into.) However, I want to be able to do relief work overseas, and possibly do small stints living abroad (I'm a RPCV). I really have no interest in Health Management etc.., but was interested in the MD/MPH program because of the Tropical Medicine or International Health pathways. Is this something I should be considering? Do you think it is worth the extra 32,000 (on top of Tulane's hefty tuition)? And which route do you think would be better for my future ambitions? Or would it just be my preference? Sorry for the barrage of questions…. Just trying to look before I leap. Thanks

jeff
 
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Well it sounds like our interests are fairly similar. In regards to what route you should choose, my personal opinion is it depends on what skill set you want to acquire. Both international health and tropical medicine degrees will be useful in the type of work you are speaking about, but they differ greatly in the skills you will be able to apply.

With trop med you will learn how to recognize and treat tropical diseases (obviously) which can be highly useful abroad. Its a great adjunct to your coursework in medical school, and you will learn a good deal more about such diseases than your MD classmates. I have not had the opportunity to take any trop med courses so I can not really comment on whether medical management of such diseases is covered or if it is addressed purely from a public health standpoint. Its a great program as I'm sure you are aware. You can't get this degree anywhere else in the US.

With Trop med it is advisable to take at least some summer courses before first year as there are prerequisites for many of the courses and its good to start early. Its doable without the summer though, it just gives you less wiggle room. Trop med students have coursework they complete in their fourth year, while students in most other programs will have finished all classes before then. Its a commitment for sure, but I'd wager its quite worth it if you are really interested in international work.

International health covers a wide array of skills. One plus for the program is that there are very few core/required courses, allowing you to tailor the program to your needs (taking trop med courses if you like, or whatever). You can take a look at the course listings online to get a better idea, but you learn a lot about managing nutritional and various needs of various communities and refugee populations etc.

Both programs are great it really is up to preference. If i were to flat out make a recommendation I would say trop med, you'll have a degree that very few other individuals have, and I'm certain that opens quite a few doors. Regardless of which program, Tulane is very very well represented abroad. Trop med and international health grads are literally all over the place and I constantly here about Tulane "reunions" in even the most remote locations.

I chose to go an entirely different route with the disaster management track within the environmental health department. Again its a different skillset, and while I want to do a good bit of work abroad, I also wanted something that would be useful here in the states.

I also want to stress that the course load, regardless of the program, is more than manageable. The med school doesn't give letter grades anymore which helps as well, and its easy to find a balance between the two programs.

As for the 32k extra. I can't say that I don't ever have panic attacks when i think about how much debt I'm in. But honestly its the cheapest degree you will ever get. If you decided later you needed the MPH it will cost considerably more (and so so many physicians are going back for the degree). Its not your only chance though, as i feel i have to mention that a number of fellowships etc later on have an MPH or similar degree built into the program. In the end, i really feel that with the expansion of medical knowledge medical schools have been forced to neglect the public health aspect of the profession. Thus I feel the MPH is really that missing piece to becoming that traditional idea of a physician.
 
Hey, thanks for all the great info.... i'll let you know what I decide... thanks again!

-jeff
 
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