Turning down an acceptance to apply again next year?

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Has anyone turned down an acceptance one year, to apply again the following year in the hopes of going to the school you *really* wanted to go to?
Would I be completely mad to do this!?
 
Unless it was for money issues....I would never consider this. What happens if you apply again and you don't end up getting in anywhere? The more time you wait, the less time you'll have to do what you really love!! (Be a vet!!) Plus that's a year of money you could be making. Who knows, you may love the school you were thinking of turning down. Give it a chance. Maybe you could look into transferring.
 
Has anyone turned down an acceptance one year, to apply again the following year in the hopes of going to the school you *really* wanted to go to?
Would I be completely mad to do this!?

Maybe I'm just desperate, but I think you'd be crazy. No guarantee you'd get into ANY school the next year, and I doubt you could reapply to the one you turned down and expect to have a good shot
It's such a competitive, unpredictable process, even if you're the best applicant in the world. I'd worry too much about not being able to get in the next year, and even worse, what if somehow all the schools know you turned down an acceptance? How would you explain that to to them? "Oh, I only like this one school, but I'm applying here anyway"
Sounds like a red flag to me.
Most people seem to think that where you get your DVM doesnt matter all that much in the long run of things. It's most personal preferences like location, etc, and cost. If you want to specialize, you do a residency, and that matters lots more.

Does the school you like accept transfer students?
 
Anecdotally there was an applicant here on SDN who turned down an acceptance and applied to the same school again the following year (and for a much better sounding reason than "I just want to go to this other school" or whatever) and was rejected from the school the year after.
 
The only reason I would think of even maaaaaaaaaybe considering it is if you applied earlier to international schools and you're planning on super-improving your application during the next year to apply to home-country schools that year.

But if it's a US school, I'd much rather be spending that year at vet school. I think it seems really presumptuous to assume you'll be accepted again the next year. I think if the ultimate goal is to be a vet, you have to take your acceptance and be damn grateful.
 
Why would you waste their time and your time applying somewhere that you wouldn't go even if it were your only choice? What was the point in applying there anyways?
 
I wouldn't do it unless there is a significant extenuating circumstance. IE I got into Ross and my spouse's medical care isn't attainable there, or my house was knocked down my a mudslide and I need the time to recover, deal with insurance, etc before I can relocate across country. Even then I would be hard pressed. I know the girl who went back home after two weeks in hopes of going to another school isn't well regarded here, by studets or faculty.
 
Yeah, I think the take-home message is that if you can't see yourself going to a place if you're accepted, then don't apply there!

luvgoldens482 said:
Why would you waste their time and your time applying somewhere that you wouldn't go even if it were your only choice? What was the point in applying there anyways?

Can you honestly say that you were 100% sure you wanted to go to each and every vet school you applied to before you'd seen the place and met some of the people there? And not to mention, NO ONE applied to a school as their 'back up'??

I *thought* I really wouldn't mind going to any of the schools I applied to. I had an interview at one school and fell in love with every aspect of the school and the people there - then I had an interview at another and was thoroughly disappointed. I was rejected from the first school and haven't yet found out from the second school.

Yes, being a vet is the ultimate goal - but I believe I would be much happier and have many more opportunites in my area of interest at the first school.
 
Yes. I can say I applied to every school that I did, knowing that if it were the only school that I got into, I would attend it with 100% of my enthusiasm.

What disappointed you about the second school? Can you talk to admissions people about the disappointment?
 
Can you honestly say that you were 100% sure you wanted to go to each and every vet school you applied to before you'd seen the place and met some of the people there? And not to mention, NO ONE applied to a school as their 'back up'??

I *thought* I really wouldn't mind going to any of the schools I applied to. I had an interview at one school and fell in love with every aspect of the school and the people there - then I had an interview at another and was thoroughly disappointed. I was rejected from the first school and haven't yet found out from the second school.

Yes, being a vet is the ultimate goal - but I believe I would be much happier and have many more opportunites in my area of interest at the first school.

I just don't want you to regret turning down a school when you don't get in anywhere the next year. If the school rejected you this year, the chances of them accepting you next year are still low (not impossible by any means!). A lot of schools look for certain types of people for their school, and they may think that you don't quite fit what they are looking for. I just want you to be successful!! Trying to look out of you!

And to be honest, most people don't get into the school that they most want to go to. I got denied from my favorite school, but i'll be so excited if I get into any of the other schools I applied to (even my least favorite school)
 
Thank you to those that have constructive responses!

Again, this is all hypothetical as I haven't been accepted anywhere yet - still waiting to hear from two schools.

If I did turn down the school that accepted me I would not apply there again - I would move to the state of the school I have my heart set on and gain IS status then apply again (it'd end up being in 2 years) - this is assuming there are only minor flaws in my application/interview, which I will be discussing with the school that rejected me sometime this week.

The second school - I got the impression they had more support for those with an interest in exotics/wildlife only to find out that that is their major weakness. Also the school, to me, seemed forgotten compared to the rest of the campus and not many of the people I interacted with were as 'warm and fuzzy' as those I've met at other schools.

Believe me, this is not a decision I'm taking lightly - like the rest of you, everything I've done for as long as I can remember has been to prepare myself to be the best vet school applicant I can be.
I had no idea that I would fall madly in love with the first school and definitely didn't think i would feel so disheartened by the second school.
 
What others have said sounds like good advice; there are several good reasons why you should think hard about it before you turn down a hard-earned acceptance. However I think you're right in considering it an option. These are four years of your life that you're looking at, and they are valuable in their own right and not just because you might spend them preparing for a future as a vet. If you have honest reasons for feeling that this school is the wrong place for you (and aren't just holding out because there's another place you like better) then I see nothing shameful about waiting another year.

Carefully examine your reasons and be aware of the possible consequences of both of your decisions. Some suggestions for how to do this: make sure that your attraction to the first school hasn't clouded your judgment on the second; look at the second school again, talk to students and alumni, and make sure your negative impressions are well founded; see if the things you don't like about the school are things that might change or be changeable (eg. If you didn't get a good vibe from current students, keep in mind that the student body changes each year, and the overall character of a community often changes as well); remind yourself what it was that prompted you to apply in the first place; think about how you would spend that year if you decide to wait; think about what will happen if you don't get accepted the next time around; make pro and con lists for both options. Etc., etc.

This sounds like a difficult decision, and I hope it works out well for you whatever you decide.
 
It does sound pretty nuts to me. When people used to ask where I wanted to go to vet school, I always said "Anywhere that will take me!" Admission into vet school is not a certainty for anyone, ever. What if you get accepted to one school this year, turn it down, and then for whatever reason NEVER get accepted anywhere again? That scenario may sound far-fetched, but I don't think I'd bet the rest of my life against it!

I used to work with a guy who always said "Don't let better get in the way of good enough" - and while I generally wanted to kill him every time he said it, I think it's actually applicable to this scenario.
 
Look into whether or not your "dream" school accepts transfer students. That way, you won't be set behind a year, and it'll give you time to see if the school you were admitted to is a good fit. Good luck!
 
VMCAS used to have a section for if you'd applied and been accepted to vet school before and why you turned it down. Just something to consider. It could be that if you did get in to this other school and turned them down, the school you were originally rejected from might think twice about admittance based on that part of the VMCAS (if it is still there, it's been a few years since I filled out that application).
 
VMCAS used to have a section for if you'd applied and been accepted to vet school before and why you turned it down. Just something to consider. It could be that if you did get in to this other school and turned them down, the school you were originally rejected from might think twice about admittance based on that part of the VMCAS (if it is still there, it's been a few years since I filled out that application).

Are you meaning 'think twice' in a negative or positive manner?
 
Are you meaning 'think twice' in a negative or positive manner?

Negative I'm sure. I'm sure they wouldn't like to offer a position to someone who already rejected their previous offer
 
Look into whether or not your "dream" school accepts transfer students. That way, you won't be set behind a year, and it'll give you time to see if the school you were admitted to is a good fit. Good luck!

I was thinking the same thing!

Also, have you talked to students from the school that isn't 'ideal'? interview settings can be very artificial and affected by a lot of external factors. As for not having the area you want to study, what gave you that impression? Not everyone will be well informed about what is/isn't a strength of the school. For example, most weeks my professors can’t even remember that I have a zoo class every Thursday (for years this class, which is basically a requirement for zoo med has existed at the same time and place) and keep scheduling instructor lead review sessions during it, then looking surprised when any of the zoo folks say ‘could we look for better days to do this?’ Zoo is suppose to be one of our ‘strong points’ and yet there are staff members who don’t even really know it exists (not just the class, but the focus area.)

I would do a whole lot of investigation BEFORE I rejected a school. And I am pursuing zoo med, so I understand that extra dynamic. I can honestly say, even if the school only did SA and LA, if it was the only acceptance I got, I would be on the doorstep for orientation. Why? Because I will need an internship and residency anyways, and there are plenty of opportunities to obtain more exposure through externships, summer programs, doing research through summer programs at schools that are more zoo focused, etc. I think you could probably even contact schools with more zoo focused programs and see if you could ‘audit’ courses somehow. Ours is broadcast online for off site residents and staff, so it might be possible to get special permission to audit…then you can use that as a selling point of how you went above and beyond to get the exposure and education you needed.
 
Negative I'm sure. I'm sure they wouldn't like to offer a position to someone who already rejected their previous offer

dyachei was saying the school that I was rejected from would think twice if they saw i was accepted to another school and i turned it down.

I don't know if perhaps they would be flattered that I turned down another school to pursue them again or not?


Tranferring is an option if 'the curriculum in similar' - i'd have to look into that.

Thank you sumstorm for the suggestions - i will definitely look into that.
 
dyachei was saying the school that I was rejected from would think twice if they saw i was accepted to another school and i turned it down.

I don't know if perhaps they would be flattered that I turned down another school to pursue them again or not?


Tranferring is an option if 'the curriculum in similar' - i'd have to look into that.

Thank you sumstorm for the suggestions - i will definitely look into that.

I meant exactly what luplodw said. It may be seen as a lack of commitment to the veterinary field. It is generally not seen as a positive to turn down another school to reapply and you will have to explain it in VMCAS if that is still there. I personally don't think that the schools will be flattered because they have so many qualified applicants, with at least some of those that are reapplicants.
 
I think the biggest fear I would have is that they would doubt my commitment. IE if I applied to a school and then decided it wasn't good enough for me to attend, what will I do if I decide the first semester doesn't provide me with a good enough support system, educaton, etc.

However, if you do determine that you will be absolutly miserable at your back up school, then please don't go. It seems unfa to block someone out who is enthusiastic about the school and wants to attend, and could affect how you interact with future associates.

If you name the schools, you might get more info.
 
You can always withdraw your application before they have a decision. This could prevent any of those problems if you really do want to just reapply next year.
 
You can always withdraw your application before they have a decision. This could prevent any of those problems if you really do want to just reapply next year.

I never thought about that - do you just e-mail the school? I'm sure you'd have to give some sort of explanation, right?

Hmm...I have a lot to think about - thanks for everyones suggestions. I think I am a bit crazy to even be considering this but I just want to make sure that the vet school i go to is the right fit for me...
 
dyachei was saying the school that I was rejected from would think twice if they saw i was accepted to another school and i turned it down.

I agree. People work so hard to get in, and the fact that you got in but didn't go tells an adcom that maybe you don't really want this. (You may really want it, I'm just saying how it appears to them - you're not as serious about veterinary school as, oh, about 1200 other people they can choose from).

I don't know if perhaps they would be flattered that I turned down another school to pursue them again or not?

They're not going to be flattered. That's a fantasy.

Remember, too, that the applicant pool is different every year - what got you an interview/acceptance in 2010 may not even get you an interview in 2011.

As others have said, people have done it and been turned down the next year. I remember the person mentioned before, and also philomycus got an interview but no acceptance, then the next year didn't even get an interview. She got in the third year. I also remember other people on here who scored interviews one year, worked on their apps, and didn't even get interviews the next year - as I said, the pool of applicants changes each year.
 
I never thought about that - do you just e-mail the school? I'm sure you'd have to give some sort of explanation, right?

A good explanation is only going to matter if you decide you want to apply there again in the future.

You really need to consider the answers of some 2nd and third time applicants for your question. They will have the best perspective on your situation.
 
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You can always withdraw your application before they have a decision. This could prevent any of those problems if you really do want to just reapply next year.

I want to 2nd this idea. OP, if I were you I would research the schools really well and then if you're sure you want to give it your all for your dream school, then you should withdraw your apps. Then you won't have the scrutiny of having turned-down the possible acceptances. You may have to explain why you withdrew in the future, but if you can explain in a professional manner than you wanted to research schools better and gain more experience/improve your application, then I think this would look a lot better than denying an acceptance.
 
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Its been said before but its worth repeating. Vet school is vet school. Its fun, its frustrating, you'll get through it. It doessn't matter where you do it in North America, the experience will pretty much be the same. There will be ample opportunity to do externships, get summer experience and make contacts in your area of interest at other schools no matter where you get your DVM. And after grad, you can go off and do an intership/residency elsewhere. This is when you will learn most of the exotics medicine anyway.
Bottom line - assuming it is not crazy expensive, take your acceptance, start school and forget about being a good 'fit.' It really doesn't matter at the end of the day.
FWIW it seems like there are a ton of zoo/exotics ppl here. In my class it was similar (about 10-15% of ppl wanted to go that route). None of them are working in that field after grad. So I think it is important to be able to see yourself in other areas of vet med before committing to the profession.
 
Maybe I'm just desperate, but I think you'd be crazy. No guarantee you'd get into ANY school the next year, and I doubt you could reapply to the one you turned down and expect to have a good shot

Yes, This. Even if I was invited across the US, for a state I have never seen or driven through, for a program that didn't offer my ideal DVM/phd, I would still go. That is just me. Happy to become a DVM one day!
I say this as someone who took a break from school and really wished I had not done so.
 
Can you honestly say that you were 100% sure you wanted to go to each and every vet school you applied to before you'd seen the place and met some of the people there? And not to mention, NO ONE applied to a school as their 'back up'??

I *thought* I really wouldn't mind going to any of the schools I applied to. I had an interview at one school and fell in love with every aspect of the school and the people there - then I had an interview at another and was thoroughly disappointed. I was rejected from the first school and haven't yet found out from the second school.I was rejected from the first school and haven't yet found out from the second school.

Yes, being a vet is the ultimate goal - but I believe I would be much happier and have many more opportunites in my area of interest at the first school.

Then withdraw now from school #2 before they accept you. Then you don't have to worry about turning down an acceptance.
 
FWIW it seems like there are a ton of zoo/exotics ppl here. In my class it was similar (about 10-15% of ppl wanted to go that route). None of them are working in that field after grad. So I think it is important to be able to see yourself in other areas of vet med before committing to the profession.

I am keeping SA exotics open as another option, but I already had a zoo curator career, so I understand the challenges and have lots of experience for it, so hopefully it will work out.
 
I'd say for me it's been kind of the opposite; the more we progress the more I feel it's confirming my desire to go into the exact field I thought I might like. But I know others who have already changed their direction (we've just started our second semester).

Yeah, I was so hoping I would be taken with a different field, took selectives in biomed researh and lab animal med. Also participate in other clubs..just makes me love zoo med more!
 
OP, I see one of your locations is MD. Would one of the schools you're deciding from happen to be VMRCVM, then? If so, send me a PM if you want more information. I'm only in my second semester here, but am enjoying the school pretty well so far.
 
I am reminded of a story that someone brought up on this forum quite a long time ago.

I may not have all the facts straight but it went something like this: Awoman applied to vet school and med school. She didn't get accepted to vet school so she went to her back-up, which was med school. Every year, she applied to vet school and got rejected. I think she moved and ended up applying to a different school. While in residency, she got accepted, but she declined. She applied to the school a second time. They declined her without an interview. She called the school and told them how she got accepted the year before. They granted her an interview and she got in. Overall, it took her 7 ot 8 years?

I really wouldnt want something like that to happen to you 🙁
 
OP, I kinda understand what you are going through. When I applied last year, I had my hear set on a school (that was originally not on the top of my list) that I fell in love with during the interview process. I, however, did not get into that school, but got into 2 other schools. Although I had to defer my acceptance in order to deploy with my guard unit, I would not, under no circumstances, turn down all of my acceptances to attempt to reapply to the other school. I have now had a year away to think about the what-ifs, etc. I have research my chosen school, spoken with other students, and am VERY happy with my decision. I am excited about starting at LSU this fall and know that I will get just as good an education at LSU as I would have at Mississippi State and that I am responsible for tailoring my own education. As others have said, and the current LSU student that I have spoken with, your education can be tailored by you with extracurricular activities, clubs, and labs. Good luck with your decision. Try searching the forums for individuals at both schools and just pm them. They willl likely discuss your fears with you and may be able to find a fellow student in their class who is also interested in your field of study.
 
Can you honestly say that you were 100% sure you wanted to go to each and every vet school you applied to before you'd seen the place and met some of the people there? And not to mention, NO ONE applied to a school as their 'back up'??

No, I did not apply to any school at which I would not be able to pursue my chosen field, even though all of the schools that are strong in it are sort of "reaches" for someone with my undergrad GPA.
 
In addition to the student mentioned by nyanko, there is another student who posted on here last year - she turned down a spot at an OOS school to reapply to her in state. She hasn't posted much this year, but I know that was her plan last year, even after deposits were due.

It wasn't a risk I was willing to take despite a huge difference in tuition. I'm so thankful that I am here, and especially that I have over half of a year under my belt.
 
I was thinking the same thing!

Also, have you talked to students from the school that isn't 'ideal'? interview settings can be very artificial and affected by a lot of external factors. As for not having the area you want to study, what gave you that impression? Not everyone will be well informed about what is/isn't a strength of the school. For example, most weeks my professors can’t even remember that I have a zoo class every Thursday (for years this class, which is basically a requirement for zoo med has existed at the same time and place) and keep scheduling instructor lead review sessions during it, then looking surprised when any of the zoo folks say ‘could we look for better days to do this?’ Zoo is suppose to be one of our ‘strong points’ and yet there are staff members who don’t even really know it exists (not just the class, but the focus area.)

I would do a whole lot of investigation BEFORE I rejected a school. And I am pursuing zoo med, so I understand that extra dynamic. I can honestly say, even if the school only did SA and LA, if it was the only acceptance I got, I would be on the doorstep for orientation. Why? Because I will need an internship and residency anyways, and there are plenty of opportunities to obtain more exposure through externships, summer programs, doing research through summer programs at schools that are more zoo focused, etc. I think you could probably even contact schools with more zoo focused programs and see if you could ‘audit’ courses somehow. Ours is broadcast online for off site residents and staff, so it might be possible to get special permission to audit…then you can use that as a selling point of how you went above and beyond to get the exposure and education you needed.


My friend, who just graduated vet school at ISU, was allowed to take her clinical rounds at a different college with a better exotics program. This might be an option too.
 
Can you honestly say that you were 100% sure you wanted to go to each and every vet school you applied to before you'd seen the place and met some of the people there? And not to mention, NO ONE applied to a school as their 'back up'??

Yes, being a vet is the ultimate goal - but I believe I would be much happier and have many more opportunities in my area of interest at the first school.


I didn't apply to any school I wouldn't have attended, even if it meant traveling across country and not seeing my husband all year long. I know from experience that I can handle anything for a couple of years and that every place vetted as much as accredited vet schools are would fulfill my needs. I have also worked in fields and jobs that I hated because it paid enough to pay my bills, so maybe my perspective is a bit different; I don’t even know if I could really afford to do another cycle if I wanted to; it is quite a bit of money down the drain.

Also, a back up is just that; if I don’t get into X, my back up (where I plan to attend) is Y if I get in there. However, having said that, I had a rank to where I would prefer to attend, not a ‘safety’ school because I wasn’t assured attendance anywhere. The way you are talking about it, it sounds like you clicked on an extra random school instead of having a back up. I fully confess, I have been to MS’s vet school, and the very classrooms drive me nuts and would have aggravated me daily, but if it was the only school I was admitted to, I would have attended, because there are other positives to the school (met some really awesome profs, like the 2-2 system, think it is awesome they have desks on campus, etc.) It kind of sounds like you have sorted the schools you interviewed at into ‘good’ and ‘bad.’ And now you are comparing ‘good’ aspects of one school to ‘bad’ aspects of another, rather than the positives of both and the negatives of both.

In zoo med, especially, you will need a residency unless you plan on doing the small zoo route and operating private practice on the side. That means an extra 3-4 years of low pay, relocation, and even fewer options than vet schools. Is it really worth waiting 2+ more years to start a 7-8yr journey? From a practical stand point, can you recoup the costs by taking 2 more years off? Will your pre-reqs still be in the time frame (assuming you’re a Sr now, that means any taken first year will be 6 yrs old, which may become an issue if you don’t get in that round.

I also wouldn’t assume that withdrawing an app would be seen as any more positive. I don’t know what the outcome of that is, but the vet world is pretty small.
 
I also wouldn’t assume that withdrawing an app would be seen as any more positive. I don’t know what the outcome of that is, but the vet world is pretty small.

I disagree. I mean, it's still not an ideal situation - but I feel that schools DO have different environments to them. If you interview somewhere and just cannot see yourself fulfilling your potential or being happy in that location - I think withdrawing an app would be better than turning down an acceptance. (Not ideal, certainly, but better).

Now, reapplying to the same school wouldn't be a great idea, especially if your reason is that the particular school wasn't what you were hoping for, but I really don't see other schools faulting you too much for it...
 
Finally finished reading this whole thread. I don't feel like writing too much but I do think this is insane. The only schools I applied to I researched first and I would go to any of them. This is only 4 yrs of your life, and if you can do clinicals in another area (which i asked last weekend at my IS and they said you can, so its possible) then it is only 3 yrs of your life. If you withdraw all your apps and apply again, and maybe a third time you would have already wasted the same amount of time that you could have graduated and gotten your DVM. You can choose to go to your "dream" school after you graduate, and you can try to do your clinicals in another area. I have heard all the vet schools in the US are good and it really doesn't matter if you go to an ivy league vs. state or #1 vs. #14. Try to think about your future and map out the years and think to yourself, do i really want to waste THIS much of my life, to go to my dream school for only 4 yrs?
sighhh this ended up being longer than i wanted lol
 
I disagree. I mean, it's still not an ideal situation - but I feel that schools DO have different environments to them. If you interview somewhere and just cannot see yourself fulfilling your potential or being happy in that location - I think withdrawing an app would be better than turning down an acceptance. (Not ideal, certainly, but better).
Now, reapplying to the same school wouldn't be a great idea, especially if your reason is that the particular school wasn't what you were hoping for, but I really don't see other schools faulting you too much for it...

Ummm...hence why I said I don't know. Not sure how one disagrees with someone saying they don't know or I wouldn't assume. 😉

Certainly not an expert or part of any school's admin, just spent too much time in small professions to think it might not raise questions and that the OP would have to tread very carefully in the future...'so you applied last year; what did the review at X point out' , 'oh, I withdrew my app from X because it was a poor fit, Dr Y' ...turns out Y is from X.

I mention it because I HAVE had similar things happen in reference to transferring in undergrad. Very hard to answer how it is a poor fit without stepping on toes of someone who really loved their experience there. And they could ask 'why didn't s/he do the research before applying?' or 'what happens if they encounter less than ideal circumstances here orin the career?' May not be fair, but the application process isn't necessarily fair.
 
Sumstorm - I disagree that you don't know, of course...this has nothing to do with the fact that I've got GI phys coming out my ears...
 
True story...

During my sophmore year of undergrad, one of the senior students that I knew was rejected from all schools except from her last choice. She decided that she really didn't want to go there, moved and became a resident of the state of her #1 choice. She applied 3 times to her #1 choice as an IS applicant and last I heard, she just started a grad school program because she couldn't get in.

So, moral of the story...if you get in, regardless of where it is, GO! you don't know if you'll get in IS.
 
This is only 4 yrs of your life, and if you can do clinicals in another area (which i asked last weekend at my IS and they said you can, so its possible) then it is only 3 yrs of your life.

Blackat - just to clarify for anyone else thinking of VMRCVM, you can NOT do your entire 4th year at another school. If you track small animal, you have just two away blocks to go to other schools/practices/whatever and if you track public/corporate you have 5 away blocks to schedule. The other tracks fall someplace in between, but you will be in Blacksburg at least part of 4th year.
 
If you reapply next year and happen to get in you'll still be out 5 years. Why not go to where you were accepted and then intern for a year in the field you want afterward, if that's still what you want to do? I wouldn't gamble with my future when its already in my hands.
 
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