U of Toronto students: general chemistry + LAB requirement!

[MSA333]

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I managed to find a very old thread (2006) covering this topic, but it would be great to hear some current feedback. Here's the situation:

At U of T (Toronto), life science students typically take the following general/physical chem courses:

CHM139: general/phy chem I (half year, with lab)
CHM220: general/phy chem II (half year, WITHOUT lab)

Together, that makes up a full year of phy chem, but CHM220 has no lab. The only way around this is to take CHM327, a specialized 3rd year lab course, which only satisfies the lab component, and also requires yet another pre-requisite (CHM221). Ultimately, we end up taking CHM139, CHM220, CHM221, and CHM327, just to satisfy that requirement...and that doesn't even cover the organic chem requirements (CHM138 + CHM247).

It sounds so far-fetched that I'm almost certain they don't require all that. But will they accept CHM139 + CHM220 as fulfilling the requirement? I took so many chem courses that I almost got a chem minor (half a credit short), yet I still can't pull out something to fully satisfy that lab component.

I'm submitting my apps anyways, meanwhile emailing the schools to see if I can get some answers. But I'm sure there are former U of T people who already went through this process?

Thanks!

 

[Suenya]

I don't know if you have a premed advisor at your school, but you should ask them if you're worried.

Most schools will take the prereqs or your school's equivalent which might be not having a lab there. You can't count on it, but I actually didn't find one where that wasn't the case and I applied widely.

Even beyond that, many many schools are willing to accept you even if you are missing some required classes. Just call and ask. You might find out that "sometimes" it's okay to not actually have taken physics labs, for example, even though they are listed as required. There are some very particular schools out there, but at least of the 30+ I applied to they were in the minority.

 

[MSA333]

Thanks!
That's comforting to know.

 

[bannie22]

Either you let the individual schools know that you dont have physical chem w/ lab and get it waived, or else u suck it up and take chm237? or go to scarborough and take chmb16h3. some schools will NOT let you waive it. ie. the big shots.

and you dont need chm221 for chm237.