U.S. to Canada

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Is it possible/likely for an American Citizen from a U.S. school to get a residency in Canada? Specifically, U of T? Anybody know someone who's done this, and if so, in what specialty? Just curious.
 
Not likely,
They could enter the 2nd iteration of the match, but anything half decent is already taken by then.
McGill would be a better bet, since they have spots (ortho comes to mind) they put in the American match for Americans.
 
If you are from an LCME-approved medical school (i.e. US and Canadian medical schools) you can enter the CaRMS match (equivalent to the NRMP) and vie for positions in the first round of the match. You certainly do have a chance to get into a top Canadian program.

The catch is that in order to qualify for Ministry funding, you must have permanent resident status or be a Citizen. I am not sure about whether McGill is an exception to that rule. Each province is different.

You should email the postgraduate office at U of Toronto.

Cheers

See: http://www.carms.ca/procedure/us_students.htm
 
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Yep, McGill is in fact an exception to the rule... so I'd strongly consider that if you were still interested... otherwise, yep, you need permanent residence status / landed immigrant status in order to enter 1st iteration. I'm from CA, but got my permanent resident status declared a few days before last X-mas and matched to UBC 1st round... it can be done, just have to deal with all of the fuss involved with the application for immigrancy which takes quite a while to get through... and is becoming more and more strict in terms of the points you need to qualify..etc..etc..

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Nope, there's really no problem with practicing in the states after a residency in Canada... I plan on doing my fellowship back in California after IM residency at UBC... as long as you take your Steps... and you're an attractive candidate... things should fall in to place without a problem... there really is no prejudice to taking candidates trained in Canada... when I chatted with a fellowship program director at UCI and UCLA they both remarked that one given year both of their top candidates were from Canadian schools.
 
how difficult is it for a us citizen to become a canadian landed immigrant?
 
I should point out that it does depend on the specialty. Currently, *most* specialties are cross-eligible for the board certification exam. For example, a Canadian IM, Rads, Derm, Path, Plastics, Gsurg, Uro, OBGYN etc. is eligble for the US specialty exam, and the US resident is generally eligible for the Canadian FRCPSC exam. This issue is independent of immigration/visas which usually is handled by the employer at that stage of the game.
US: State License (USMLEs) + BCertification + Visa = golden
Canada: MCC Exams + FRCPSC certification + Visa = golden

However, notable exceptions are Cardac Surgery (a direct entry program in Canada), Neurosurgery and Otolaryngology H&NSurg. For various reasons (apparently mostly physician oversupply in the US), these Canadian residents are not US eligible (not sure about going the other way either). So these people can basically only work in Canada or in academic practice in the US where BC/BE is not as crucial.

Anecdotally, I have heard and seen first hand that it is relatively easy for Canadian trained physicians to move to the US. This "brain drain" is a hot topic in Canada. Apparently, however, recently some MDs have moved up here because of the nicer malpractice situation. It cuts both ways I guess.
 
hey surfer75,
why did you decide to train in vancouver? especially since it sounds like you plan on heading south again afterwards.
just curious.