UAB vs Emory?

[mohit98]

I have been scratching my head for long. I interviewed at both Emory and UAB for internal medicine, still unable to decide how to rank them. please suggest your views...

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[drPLUM]

I have been scratching my head for long. I interviewed at both Emory and UAB for internal medicine, still unable to decide how to rank them. please suggest your views...

Both programs are comparable. A better question is whether to live in Birmingham or Atlanta.

 

[mohit98]

Both programs are comparable. A better question is whether to live in Birmingham or Atlanta.

can u let me know in what areas UAB scores over Emory, and Emory overscores UAB, I know Birmingham as a city suxx

 

[NinerNiner999]

Perhaps the best guide to a programs "success" from an a academic perspective is the percentage of fellowship applicants that gain fellowship, and the type of fellowships they are awarded. If you are not pursuing a fellowship, then I would imagine both programs are equal in the training you will recieve.

 

[fourthyearmed]

Atlanta traffic sucks. Birmingham's not so bad once you get outside of the downtown area and no one actually lives there.

 

[Rustico]

can u let me know in what areas UAB scores over Emory, and Emory overscores UAB, I know Birmingham as a city suxx

I never dreamed I would defend living in Birmingham. I moved here 8 years ago for UAB. When I got here I felt like I had landed on another planet. However, now that it is time for me to move on (to the NE) I realize just how good I have it here. Birmingham is an EASY city. Traffic is not bad, the airport is small and managable, plenty of nightlife and good restaurants, and it is cheap to live here. But the best part about Birmingham is UAB. I have never once regretted my decision to train here.

Oh and most of the people I know actually do live downtown close to UAB. The only reason I would not live in this area is if I had children. The public schools are much better in the South suburbs.

 

[Blade28]

Agreed that Atlanta traffic sucks. But everything else is great - it's a fun, relatively young city. Never been to Birmingham though.

 

[penguins]

Atlanta has advantages just like all cities. However, I wouldn't want to live there. I lived there for almost 2 years. Some of the suburbs are nice to live in but you won't be living near Grady unless you have lots of money. For what it is worth, I was really surprised by the large gay population downtown. I didn't like that but just so you know it exists.
Our car got stolen from our nice apartment complex in the burbs and several of our friends had cars stolen there as well. The city is poorly run and crime is crazy. It is a very liberal city and the traffic/streets/freeways are insane.
However, Emory is Emory and it is a great program. I attended many IM residency lectures as a medical student and they were excellent. I am sure UAB would offer excellent didactics, etc. as well.

 

[daisyduke]

For what it is worth, I was really surprised by the large gay population downtown. I didn't like that but just so you know it exists.

😱 So inappropriate! This sounds like you are citing a gay population as a downside of living in Atlanta or working at Emory!

I'm so sick of homophobic, narrow-minded nonsense like this (and people willing to freely admit it on a medical forum and act like its as simple as preferring to live in warm weather vs. cold weather)... 😡

 

[CNphair]

It is a very liberal city and the traffic/streets/freeways are insane.

The traffic is horrible. No doubt. A major negative in my book...but a liberal city?!? Compared to what...Buford, GA? I grew up in Atlanta. There are more Baptists Churches than people. A think it is about as conservative as you can get for a major city with a (relatively) diverse population.

 

[penguins]

😱 So inappropriate! This sounds like you are citing a gay population as a downside of living in Atlanta or working at Emory!

I'm so sick of homophobic, narrow-minded nonsense like this (and people willing to freely admit it on a medical forum and act like its as simple as preferring to live in warm weather vs. cold weather)... 😡

Settle down. Didn't anything of the sort. 🙄 I think it is important information to have when deciding where to live. Some people might think that is a plus, met some people on the trail who were looking for just that.
To be frank for me, it is a downside, but that is for individual people to make. Just putting the information out there.
It is more important to some than the weather. Turn off your sensitive chip, it wasn't meant to offend, just to offer an opinion of the city.

 

[penguins]

The traffic is horrible. No doubt. A major negative in my book...but a liberal city?!? Compared to what...Buford, GA? I grew up in Atlanta. There are more Baptists Churches than people. A think it is about as conservative as you can get for a major city with a (relatively) diverse population.

The OP asked for opinions and I am giving mine. I think it is a very liberal city when compared with other Southern cities like Birmingham. I didn't offer it as a scientific fact. 🙂
Compared to NewYork I am sure it is super conservative. 😀
There are many wonderful things about Atlanta, they have an awesome skyline.

 

[mohit98]

ok guys, I think this discussion has become as Atlanta and Birmingham as a city comparison.
What I want to compare are the two programs, not city please

 

[penguins]

ok guys, I think this discussion has become as Atlanta and Birmingham as a city comparison.
What I want to compare are the two programs, not city please

Emory:
Very busy, intense, great structure and didactics. Feels good because you are surrounded by so many "greats" who are now your attendings. Has great history in medicine.
Grady is obviously more intense and busy, Crawford Long is more laid back while still busy. Residents (in IM) that I worked with were very very personable and most seemed to get along quite well and backed eachother up. Some attendings are a little malignant, most of these belonging to old school. Lots of old white men who have been in medicine since the begining of time and have made many contributions. The "younger" attending staff is very diverse (culturally) and most are genuinely enthusiastic about teaching. It is very "what was in the last journal" oriented which is great.
IMveryHO, Emory has more name recognition than UAB but that could be because of where I come from and have nothing to do with anything. Emory is a little snobby but I think they have a right to be in some ways.
...and the weather at Emory is great. 😀

UAB:
any comments would be based on second hand information rather than fact

 

[Blade28]

From my interactions and experience with the medicine team, they seem to be a hardworking, approachable bunch. I'm not in the IM program, obviously, so I can't give you any insider information. 🙂

 

[tigersMD]

Emory:
Very busy, intense, great structure and didactics. Feels good because you are surrounded by so many "greats" who are now your attendings. Has great history in medicine.
Grady is obviously more intense and busy, Crawford Long is more laid back while still busy. Residents (in IM) that I worked with were very very personable and most seemed to get along quite well and backed eachother up. Some attendings are a little malignant, most of these belonging to old school. Lots of old white men who have been in medicine since the begining of time and have made many contributions. The "younger" attending staff is very diverse (culturally) and most are genuinely enthusiastic about teaching. It is very "what was in the last journal" oriented which is great.
IMveryHO, Emory has more name recognition than UAB but that could be because of where I come from and have nothing to do with anything. Emory is a little snobby but I think they have a right to be in some ways.
...and the weather at Emory is great. 😀

UAB:
any comments would be based on second hand information rather than fact

Actually, I think UAB's name is at least as good as Emory, probably better. The program structure is pretty much the same both places. UAB is definitely not a malignant place from my experiences there, and I think Emory has started to move past its former "old school" ways recently as well.

 

[PickyBicky]

For what it is worth, I was really surprised by the large gay population downtown. I didn't like that but just so you know it exists.
...It is a very liberal city and the traffic/streets/freeways are insane.
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I agree with the above poster. It is disappointing to hear that you would cite a gay population as a negative. Your comment that Atlanta is "very liberal" is also disturbing. True, segments of Atlanta are more liberal than most of the south, but overall, the the greater metropolitan area is as red as the rest of the state (and the south in general).

-PB

 

[PickyBicky]

Settle down. Didn't anything of the sort. 🙄 I think it is important information to have when deciding where to live..

Clearly, you live with your head up your ass. Maybe you should also include that the city also has a large population of (GASP!) African Americans, and Asians!, and (MY GOD, run for the hills) people of middle eastern descent, and jews, and on and on and on.

-PB

 

[usnavdoc]

Clearly, you live with your head up your ass. Maybe you should also include that the city also has a large population of (GASP!) African Americans, and Asians!, and (MY GOD, run for the hills) people of middle eastern descent, and jews, and on and on and on.

-PB

Why do you want to jump in and re-hash this crap. Drop it. It was his opinion stupid statement or not. He didnt mention anything about race as you are clearly trying to flame this up.

Im sure the OP would rather hear more about his original question than this non-sense.

 

[penguins]

Clearly, you live with your head up your ass. Maybe you should also include that the city also has a large population of (GASP!) African Americans, and Asians!, and (MY GOD, run for the hills) people of middle eastern descent, and jews, and on and on and on.

-PB

Whatever! I don't claim to know the racial breakdown of the city because I don't really care. If people are yellow, white, purple, or black... doesn't really matter to me. Maybe you do care and if you chose to cite that as a fact to consider in a post of yours I wouldn't really care. (Don't I hear Hispanic applicants-as an example-all the time ask about the presence or lack of presence of a Hispanic community? Isn't that a normal question?)

Turn of the sensitivity chip! If I was the kind of person who makes slurs, I would have made one, but I didn't, I cited an observation.

I stand by my post. For some it is good and for some it is bad. I just put the information out there. Get over it!

IMO, Atlanta is liberal for the South and since we were talking about 2 southern cities, that is the reference point for the comment.

But... as the OP pointed out... he doesn't care about the city, he cares about the programs...so lets stick to that, shall we?

 

[mohit98]

gosh! u guys ... UAB has got better ranks in NIH funding.. but thats basic research... UAB internal medicine ranking on usnews is better than Emory.. but that is overall... UAB cardiology fellowship ranked 6th in nation as compared to Emory's 11th.. but that again Emory is traditionally knows for cards....UAB grads only 60-70% go into fellowship but only continue at UAB... Emory 87% go into fellowship.. Emory known harvard of south.. all these facts just mess up the things ...

 

[southerndoc]

gosh! u guys ... UAB has got better ranks in NIH funding.. but thats basic research... UAB internal medicine ranking on usnews is better than Emory.. but that is overall... UAB cardiology fellowship ranked 6th in nation as compared to Emory's 11th.. but that again Emory is traditionally knows for cards....UAB grads only 60-70% go into fellowship but only continue at UAB... Emory 87% go into fellowship.. Emory known harvard of south.. all these facts just mess up the things ...

Emory is not the "Harvard of the South." Duke is considered the "Harvard of the South," and in fact was considering joining the Ivy League at one point.

If you rely on prestige and rankings for your decision, then you're choosing rather unwisely. I recommend you go where you think you will be most happy. You should go where you think you will fit in the best.