I am interested in practicing OB/GYN in underserved populations such as Africa or South America. However, I'd like to know the pros and cons of choosing between UAG and Carribbean schools such as Ross. I'm currently in Calif, if that matters. Or should I just strive for an MD or DO in the states? I think I read a statistic that stated UAG has graduated more US medical students than any US medical school. I've read about fifth pathway etc.
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If this is your goal you gotta go cheap so you won't have 200k in loans to pay off. Best bet is a state school in the US. After that McGill in Canada is cheap, Australia too except for the airfare.
Then SGU, or Ross or maybe Guad but cost will be a factor. If you can make the grades definitely stay in the US at your local state school
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Im currently at Ross and my father is a graduate of UAG. From what he knows about his former school and what he knows about Ross and SGU he would definatly recommend the Carib Schools (those 2 only though) over UAG.
I know of a few people here who transfered to Ross from UAG. My father didn't have the best things to say about UAG when he went there and didn't like the idea of myself going there either.
As for the fifth pathway, Im not sure how it is anymore. My next door neighbors though about going there because they are from San Juan but they had heard something about the 5th pathway not being around so much anymore.
I dunno. Id be hesitant about going to UAG and research as much as you can about the school. If you want another stastic, Ross comprises the largest percentage of MD graduates in the US each year I believe. Something like 5%.
The UAG statistic is also misleading though. UAG used to be the only school US students who could not get into US schools went to. So it was either the US or UAG. Now there are a lot more options and Id personally rank these foreign schools the best of them, in terms of training to the US model of Med school education.
1. Sackler
2. SGU
3. Ross
good luck.
Id try to do a US MD. DO is another great option, but most foreign countries might give you trouble cause your not an MD.
I know of a few people here who transfered to Ross from UAG. My father didn't have the best things to say about UAG when he went there and didn't like the idea of myself going there either.
As for the fifth pathway, Im not sure how it is anymore. My next door neighbors though about going there because they are from San Juan but they had heard something about the 5th pathway not being around so much anymore.
I dunno. Id be hesitant about going to UAG and research as much as you can about the school. If you want another stastic, Ross comprises the largest percentage of MD graduates in the US each year I believe. Something like 5%.
The UAG statistic is also misleading though. UAG used to be the only school US students who could not get into US schools went to. So it was either the US or UAG. Now there are a lot more options and Id personally rank these foreign schools the best of them, in terms of training to the US model of Med school education.
1. Sackler
2. SGU
3. Ross
good luck.
Id try to do a US MD. DO is another great option, but most foreign countries might give you trouble cause your not an MD.
Thanks for providing the perspective of someone who knows about both kinds of schools. I haven't yet applied, but I'm seriously considering going overseas if the US schools won't accept me. It seems like it would be easier for me to live in Mexico than to go to an island, but these kinds of negatives about UAG make me wonder if it would be worth it.
Can you give more details about what your father found lacking in UAG?
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when he was there it was a do-it-yourself medical school. He got there he didn't know where to go, who to talk to, or where to live. Luckily he knew spanish. He was never given any kind of book list or class schedule. He found out everything from other classmates who managed to find there way before him. With gross anatomy he had to find his own cadevar.
He said it was poorly run and poorly organized. He said a lot of people tried todo it and just quit. He said he wasn't spoon fed anything from any professor there.
He also lost a lot of classmates too in his 3rd year when they opened up a new med school in texas when they were looking for 3rd year students to fill up their spots.
Things are probably different now, but from what Ive heard, I dont think its a better situation. Especially now that there are better alternatives in Europe, Australia and the Caribbean.
when he was there it was a do-it-yourself medical school. He got there he didn't know where to go, who to talk to, or where to live. Luckily he knew spanish. He was never given any kind of book list or class schedule. He found out everything from other classmates who managed to find there way before him. With gross anatomy he had to find his own cadevar.
He said it was poorly run and poorly organized. He said a lot of people tried todo it and just quit. He said he wasn't spoon fed anything from any professor there.
He also lost a lot of classmates too in his 3rd year when they opened up a new med school in texas when they were looking for 3rd year students to fill up their spots.
Things are probably different now, but from what Ive heard, I dont think its a better situation. Especially now that there are better alternatives in Europe, Australia and the Caribbean.
Really? Conjures up all sorts of morbid thoughts on how one went about acquiring their own cadaver.
.......................Fifth Pathway is only offered through the New York Medical College now, but they have hospitals in NY and Connecticut, for people with one problem or another.
One problem is that you pay - a lot.
Even so, I know 3 people that did 5th Pathway (which I found out ex post facto) - 2 from Guadalajara, and one from the Philippines. The two from Mexico, one is a PGY-3 in IM now, the other got a CUSH job in LA, doing worker's comp physicals, and the woman from the Philippines finished anesthesia at SUNY-Brooklyn.
One caveat - more people apply than there are positions. It's not a slam-dunk.
5% from Ross? That would be 800. St. George's and Ross each graduate about as much as Wayne State each year (roundly) - 250-270.
One problem is that you pay - a lot.
Even so, I know 3 people that did 5th Pathway (which I found out ex post facto) - 2 from Guadalajara, and one from the Philippines. The two from Mexico, one is a PGY-3 in IM now, the other got a CUSH job in LA, doing worker's comp physicals, and the woman from the Philippines finished anesthesia at SUNY-Brooklyn.
One caveat - more people apply than there are positions. It's not a slam-dunk.
5% from Ross? That would be 800. St. George's and Ross each graduate about as much as Wayne State each year (roundly) - 250-270.
I do believe 800 might be a little high, but its definatly more than 250-270.
Ross does 2 graduations a year and starts 3 classes per year. Each class as far as I know tends to graduate around 200-250 I think.
Not all of the 3 classes qualify for the same match period though.
Ross does 2 graduations a year and starts 3 classes per year. Each class as far as I know tends to graduate around 200-250 I think.
Not all of the 3 classes qualify for the same match period though.
I think, all totalled, it's actually usually around the 350-400 range. Most enter the NRMP and get matched. Over the last 5-7 years, though, it's definitely the most placements in the match from any single school.
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Thanks for the update!
