UC (university of California) jobs in cali

[PAC2DO]

Hi all,

Currently in PP but looking to go into UC for personal/family reason. Can someone with insight about UC jobs dm me? Looking at UCLA, Irvine and UCSD.
Thanks!

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[kidthor]

Hi all,

Currently in PP but looking to go into UC for personal/family reason. Can someone with insight about UC jobs dm me? Looking at UCLA, Irvine and UCSD.
Thanks!

Are you looking for a specific subspecialty?

 

[PAC2DO]

Are you looking for a specific subspecialty?

No. I’m considering a job as a generalist. I vaguely remember someone mentioning that UC Irvine is CRNA dominant and they run the board but I’m not too sure if it’s correct or not.

 

[joshmir]

I hear that UCI is a good place to locum ATM, if that’s helpful

Let us know what you learn

 

[MDMechEngr]

UCLA and UCSD don't typically hire DOs.

 

[PAC2DO]

UCLA and UCSD don't typically hire DOs.

Thanks for the insight but I have enough connection to get a job. The concern is that my family is growing and it will be very hard to move again. That’s why I would like to be very careful before I make a decision.

 

[NicholasPavona]

Thanks for the insight but I have enough connection to get a job. The concern is that my family is growing and it will be very hard to move again. That’s why I would like to be very careful before I make a decision.

I don't know how careful it is asking a bunch of random dorks on SDN for job advice.

 

[NicholasPavona]

Also keep in mind that UCLA has a reputation to uphold. They don't need no damn osteopaths stinkin' up the joint. Why don't you check out Kansas or Idaho? Great place to raise a family!

 

[PAC2DO]

I don't know how careful it is asking a bunch of random dorks on SDN for job advice.

I found that culture of the dept is something that is hard to figure out on the interview day.

Also, not sure if you are joking or serious about your other response but UCLA already has DO attendings. My credential will definitely not stink up their reputation.

 

[NicholasPavona]

I found that culture of the dept is something that is hard to figure out on the interview day.

Also, not sure if you are joking or serious about your other response but UCLA already has DO attendings. My credential will definitely not stink up their reputation.

Faculty Physicians

www.uclahealth.org

142 faculty in the Department of Anesthesiology. 140 M.D.s, 2 D.O.s but hey....maybe you'll be the third! Bump the percentage of osteopaths from 1.4% to 2.2%.

 

[NicholasPavona]

I can clown on D.O.s since I'm one myself. Screwed around too much in college, miraculously got accepted to an osteopathic medical school, barely passed med school, got threatened with expulsion multiple times in my clinical rotations and residency but you know what? Here I am 25 years later and a multi-millionaire. It's like Eric B. said: "It ain't where you from it's where you at."

 

[PAC2DO]

I can clown on D.O.s since I'm one myself. Screwed around too much in college, miraculously got accepted to an osteopathic medical school, barely passed med school, got threatened with expulsion multiple times in my clinical rotations and residency but you know what? Here I am 25 years later and a multi-millionaire. It's like Eric B. said: "It ain't where you from it's where you at."

Keep clowning DOs and hopefully you will get kicked out from SDN too. Just know that not all DOs are like you and don’t have the inferiority complex about our degree like you.

Also, nobody cares if you are a multi millionaire and I’m not impressed at all. In fact, it would really suck if you have been a physician for 25 yrs and don’t have that much money unless you are paying for alimony for your failed marriage. Maybe you need to go to Kansas or Iowa.

Also, please kindly stop replying to the post unless you have any useful information to share.

 

[CopaceticOne]

@PAC2DO, just take a breath. Humor doesn’t always translate to the written word. That’s the closest I’ve seen @NicholasPavona write a sort of mea culpa on here even if it wasn’t one.

If it is bothering you that much, just hit ignore.

 

[aneftp]

Faculty Physicians

www.uclahealth.org

142 faculty in the Department of Anesthesiology. 140 M.D.s, 2 D.O.s but hey....maybe you'll be the third! Bump the percentage of osteopaths from 1.4% to 2.2%.

I’m barely down to “H” on the list and count 7-8 foreign MD grads on faculty list already. So likely 15 foreign MD grads on faculty.

So better to be from Mexican/caribbean MD school grad ? Than DO American school ? At ucla?

 

[aneftp]

Keep clowning DOs and hopefully you will get kicked out from SDN too. Just know that not all DOs are like you and don’t have the inferiority complex about our degree like you.

Also, nobody cares if you are a multi millionaire and I’m not impressed at all. In fact, it would really suck if you have been a physician for 25 yrs and don’t have that much money unless you are paying for alimony for your failed marriage. Maybe you need to go to Kansas or Iowa.

Also, please kindly stop replying to the post unless you have any useful information to share.

As my colleague who unfortunately committed suicide last year told me before he hung himself 2 days after I talked to him.

Marriages end in divorce 50% of time and death 50% of the time. Those are damming stats. All marriages fail at that rate.

And he married 30 plus years. With adult kids.

 

[secretasianman]

As my colleague who unfortunately committed suicide last year told me before he hung himself 2 days after I talked to him.

Marriages end in divorce 50% of time and death 50% of the time. Those are damming stats. All marriages fail at that rate.

And he married 30 plus years. With adult kids.

All life fails at 100% rate !

 

[NicholasPavona]

I’m barely down to “H” on the list and count 7-8 foreign MD grads on faculty list already. So likely 15 foreign MD grads on faculty.

So better to be from Mexican/caribbean MD school grad ? Than DO American school ? At ucla?

Yes

 

[nimbus]

I can clown on D.O.s since I'm one myself. Screwed around too much in college, miraculously got accepted to an osteopathic medical school, barely passed med school, got threatened with expulsion multiple times in my clinical rotations and residency but you know what? Here I am 25 years later and a multi-millionaire. It's like Eric B. said: "It ain't where you from it's where you at."

This you??

 

[nimbus]

I’m barely down to “H” on the list and count 7-8 foreign MD grads on faculty list already. So likely 15 foreign MD grads on faculty.

So better to be from Mexican/caribbean MD school grad ? Than DO American school ? At ucla?

UCSF, UCSD, UCLA are all FMG friendly but they are typically legit academics who were born and attended medical school in another country and usually not USIMGs. UCSD has historically had a lot of Canadian weather refugees who flew south.

 

[nimbus]

Hi all,

Currently in PP but looking to go into UC for personal/family reason. Can someone with insight about UC jobs dm me? Looking at UCLA, Irvine and UCSD.
Thanks!

You’re not accepting DMs. DM me if you’d like some info.

 

[aneftp]

UCSF, UCSD, UCLA are all FMG friendly but they are typically legit academics who were born and attended medical school in another country and usually not USIMGs. UCSD has historically had a lot of Canadian weather refugees who flew south.

Oh.
I’m just surprised by the anti DO agenda in California state funded medical schools.

 

[nimbus]

Oh.
I’m just surprised by the anti DO agenda in California state funded medical schools.

I’m just saying the FMGs on faculty more likely attended medical school in Tehran, Beijing, London, or Toronto than in the Caribbean.

Given the manpower shortage and the demand for “associate physician diplomates” the anti-DO bias will likely change quickly.

 

[NicholasPavona]

This you??


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LOL. Outstanding!

 

[PAC2DO]

I’m just saying the FMGs on faculty more likely attended medical school in Tehran, Beijing, London, or Toronto than in the Caribbean.

Given the manpower shortage and the demand for “physician associates” the anti-DO bias will likely change quickly.

I agree with you 100%. Even when I was applying for residency, I interviewed at multiple programs that never interviewed DOs including ones I mentioned above. They asked me how to interpret my COMLEX score. 🤣 Samething happened when I applied for fellowship. DO bias is definitely going away as I know multiple friends of mine matching into cardiac and pain matching into programs that never had DOs.

 

[cockblockandrun]

I’m just saying the FMGs on faculty more likely attended medical school in Tehran, Beijing, London, or Toronto than in the Caribbean.

Given the manpower shortage and the demand for “physician associates” the anti-DO bias will likely change quickly.

From my POV, I think the anti-DO bias is almost non-existent in many places. DO's now train with MDs and I work with them on a daily basis on the anesthesia and surgery side. There might be some old school folks with those archaic biases- but I think they are a distant past now (and for the better!)

 

[ucsfgaspain]

Game recognizes game. Those of us in the real world i.e. non academia understand who has the clinical chops to succeed...who we want to take care of our loved ones...who we want to close out rooms when we are first call so we don't inherit disasters. I don't care if you are an md, do, or non physician when I'm just trying to get the work done. I had the fortune of having an academic CV that I would hold up to anyone. But I learned a humbling lesson when out in the real world. Excellence is not just in those that have pedigree.

Now I also understand the difference of academic medicine. They are optimizing for something else. Often grant writing. In the world of academic funding...credentialism matters. But that's why I remember why as the good senior residents were put into the rooms of preeminent academic attending, to protect the patients🙂

It is also why I think that the academic model of training residents is flawed. Most trainees go onto private practice yet they have so little exposure to those making the sausage everyday.

I've always said that on the first day of residency, the residents should be able to watch attendings do cases solo. It would illustrate who talks a good game versus who really has one.

 

[pgg]

From my POV, I think the anti-DO bias is almost non-existent in many places. DO's now train with MDs and I work with them on a daily basis on the anesthesia and surgery side. There might be some old school folks with those archaic biases- but I think they are a distant past now (and for the better!)

If you asked me to make a list of the MD and DO partners in my own group I'm not sure I could do it.

No one cares here. Of course, we're a private group out in the sticks, not some ivory tower academic joint.

 

[Caninehalitosis]

It is so competitive now that I think the difference between DO's and MD's is MD were 3.8 students and DO's were 3.7 students. Also, why target Universities in So Cal. There are probably 10x non-university jobs.

 

[joshmir]

Good question

OP, why are you going academic?

Is there a really good job offer at the UC’s?

 

[NicholasPavona]

Sure. However, keep in mind the well known ONNA Doctrine - Osteopaths Need Not Apply.

 

[aneftp]

It is so competitive now that I think the difference between DO's and MD's is MD were 3.8 students and DO's were 3.7 students. Also, why target Universities in So Cal. There are probably 10x non-university jobs.

Maybe the cal pension system? Is it still good? My aunt retire in California with close to 100% of her real salary after 30 plus years. What is the multiplier for the pension?

Kaiser isn’t as good any more. It’s was close to 60% of ur salary after 20 plus years now it’s like 35%?

The Feds is even worse. Around 20% of ur salary after 20 years and worst meaning it’s all post tax money you contribute yourself that’s re taxed again spread over 20 plus years after u start collecting

 

[Ronin786]

There is no way that an academic program is turning down qualified attending applicants because of them being a DO vs MD. Academics can barely fill their spots as it is and everybody knows the old saying "your resume is only as good as the last place on it".

 

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