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so i'm on the interview trail and hearing uncomfortable rumors about the UCSF ob-gyn program -- it's malignant, residents work over the 80 hour work week, they're not well supported, and even on their website, they don't publish either salary or vacation time. and the students i've met from there seem fairly taciturn about their home program. is there anyone out there who can reliably speak to these rumors? i'm super disappointed because i have high hopes for the program ....

many thanks in advance!
 

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so i'm on the interview trail and hearing uncomfortable rumors about the UCSF ob-gyn program -- it's malignant, residents work over the 80 hour work week, they're not well supported, and even on their website, they don't publish either salary or vacation time. and the students i've met from there seem fairly taciturn about their home program. is there anyone out there who can reliably speak to these rumors? i'm super disappointed because i have high hopes for the program ....

many thanks in advance!

All UCSF residents have the same salary and vacation time. Those are standardized across all residencies in the system.

-AT.
 

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I interviewed there... didn't feel the people were malignant. They have a mentorship program established, and faculty at the General stated there is comradery with them and the residents.

However, one resident did say that the attendings are unwilling to cover the residents during didactics, so they are not protected for the seniors on service. Another resident told me they are over hours on service at the General Hospital.

Vacation included some guaranteed time at the holidays (4 days for New Years or Christmas). They have a call free elective during the PGY 3 year and are trying to add another for the PGY-2 class.

As for salary it is the same as the other UC's, approx $45,000, plus $2400 for 1 time relocation fees, and an additional $600 per month for San Francisco cost of living.
 
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I would swallow a light bulb dipped in toilet water (obscure Simpsons reference) to get into UCSF OB/GYN residency. But seriously, I would go even if they worked me to death. The location alone is worth it.
 

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been to cincinnati

been to UCSF

Neither place is worth working yourself to death for. Time for OB GYNS to stop being the big martyrs and enter the human race. Pathologic and a very bad preface to whatever marital/parental plans you may have. The lawyers will keep you busy in your career so you better learn how to live right now.

UCSF is good in everything. Over eighty hours is bad everywhere.
 
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