UCSF worth applying OOS ? Any UCs ?

[Willy38]

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Obviously I can look up II data on msar but what level is considered favorable to OOS ?

 

[darkjedi]

The UCs are pretty competitive to get in, even more so as an out of state applicant. However UCSF has slightly less instate bias than most state schools. In the end is a top tier program that attracts top tier applicants. If you're a great applicant they won't turn you away just because you are out of state

 

[Ace-Co-A]

UCSF is mentally competitive and selective for California applicants, but I don't think there are any barriers for your application, @Willy38 .

However, if I could do it again, I would have substituted Stanford for UCSF.

 

[Amba]

I got rejected pre-secondary OOS. If I had to do it all again, I probably wouldn't have bothered applying.

 

[trino]

If you believe you have a shot at Harvard/Hopkins/Stanford throw UCSF in there as well

 

[mcloaf]

Yeah they're interested in OOS'ers. My understanding is that they look for interesting applicants and probably won't be as wowed by super high stats as some of their peer schools, only you know whether or not this will benefit you. Good luck.

 

[Willy38]

If you believe you have a shot at Harvard/Hopkins/Stanford throw UCSF in there as well

Does anyone really have a shot at any of those schools lol ? I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be surprised to get an II there.

Edit: Nice avatar btw, Gifted Hands=awesome.

 

[kevinus]

Hard to tell. They seem reject a lot of applicants with 3.9 and 40 MCAT pre-interview. But it can't hurt to apply? The secondaries are extremely easy.

 

[trino]

Does anyone really have a shot at any of those schools lol ? I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be surprised to get an II there.

Haha I see what your saying. What I'm trying to say is that if you believe you have no shot at hms/jhu, don't apply to UCSF. You can still throw Harvard and Hopkins on there, but it wouldn't be worth the money to overcome ucsf's slight instate bias.

If I had your application, it would take a 36/37 MCAT for me to apply to UCSF. I would apply to Harvard/Hopkins with a 34 (mostly just for laughs, but miracles can happen)

EDIT: those numbers are highly opinionated and I missed you DCT job. That could make you stand out as the numbers could be lowered

 

[Willy38]

Haha I see what your saying. What I'm trying to say is that if you believe you have no shot at hms/jhu, don't apply to UCSF. You can still throw Harvard and Hopkins on there, but it wouldn't be worth the money to overcome ucsf's slight instate bias.

If I had your application, it would take a 36/37 MCAT for me to apply to UCSF. I would apply to Harvard/Hopkins with a 34 (mostly just for laughs, but miracles can happen)

Gotcha, well it can't hurt I guess. It's better than not applying and regretting it. Somebody has to win the lottery, but at 135 bucks a ticket it can start to hurt.

 

[trino]

Gotcha, well it can't hurt I guess. It's better than not applying and regretting it. Somebody has to win the lottery, but at 135 bucks a ticket it can start to hurt.

heck, if you have the money, go for it! I just wouldn't sacrifice another school to apply to UCSF

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

Does anyone really have a shot at any of those schools lol ? I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be surprised to get an II there.

Edit: Nice avatar btw, Gifted Hands=awesome.

If your scores are 97th+ percentile and you come from a pedigree institution with good EC, I don't think it's arrogant to feel you have at least a chance.

 

[Willy38]

If your scores are 97th+ percentile and you come from a pedigree institution with good EC, I don't think it's arrogant to feel you have at least a chance.

Me either. I was just implying that with so many strong applicants it seems like an acceptance there is a pretty rare/special thing.

 

[Leoz M Jiliums]

Guys, OP is a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE with a 3.9+/38. Willy, apply wherever you want, no institution is out of reach for you (besides the IS only schools).

 

[trino]

Guys, OP is a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE with a 3.9+/38. Willy, apply wherever you want, no institution is out of reach for you (besides the IS only schools).

Just found his WAMC. I don't know what I was looking at the first time (previous link earlier in the thread). I agree with Leoz. Now that you have your MCAT apply where ever your heart desires. I believe you will get a lot of interviews and those will determine your acceptances. I'm just happy you're not applying in my cycle 🙂

 

[Turd_Ferguson]

I would totally do it. UCSF has a pretty strict cutoff for who they send secondaries to compared to most schools. So, even if they don't deem you qualified, the only thing you could be potentially wasting is the primary fee.

I interviewed with UCSF as an OOS with similar stats (just a touch lower, actually) and am not a professional athlete, lol.

 

[supermintyfresh]

Willy's application is one that makes the rest of us feel jelly

If you want to add schools in California, I would add USC in there as a safety / scholarship consideration as it accepts a great deal of OOS. Plus, I want to meet you!

 

[Willy38]

Willy's application is one that makes the rest of us feel jelly

If you want to add schools in California, me would add USC in there as a safety / scholarship consideration as it accepts a great deal of OOS. Plus, me want to meet you!

I had it in there because I really want to go to California but I heard it is in a terrible part of town and housing is off campus... What do you think having visited there?

 

[Willy38]

me would totally do it. UCSF has a pretty strict cutoff for who they send secondareis to compared to most schools. So, even if they don't deem you qualifeid, the only thing you could be potentially wasting is the primary fee.

me interveiwed with UCSF as an OOS with similar stats (just a touch lower, actually) and am not a professional athlete, lol.

That's good to know. I would prefer a pre-secondary rejection if I'm going to be rejected. I wish all schools were that courteous haha

 

[supermintyfresh]

me had it in there because me really want to go to California but me heard it is in a terrible part of town and housing is off campus... What do you think having visited there?

The areas surrounding the campus is not that sketch. The undergrad part of USC (in a different area) is more notorious for crime, but is still safe if you are on-campus. Nevertheless, downtown LA is really close (less than 10 minutes), and Pasadena is a great residential area with lots of things to do. Overall, the campus seemed really well-maintained, and the students seemed really care-free and friendly despite doing stellar across all standardized tests like the boards.

 

[Willy38]

The areas surrounding the campus is not that sketch. The undergrad part of USC (in a different area) is more notorious for crime, but is still safe if you are on-campus. Nevertheless, downtown LA is really close (less than 10 minutes), and Pasadena is a great residential area with lots of things to do. Overall, the campus seemed really well-maintained, and the students seemed really care-free and freindly despite doing stellar across all standardized tests like the boards.

Their site says it is pass/fail. Is it real pass/fail or honors/high pass... etc. ?

 

[supermintyfresh]

Their site says it is pass/fail. Is it real pass/fail or honors/high pass... etc. ?

It's pass/fail -- I believe most schools are shifting towards this grading system now or in the near future. However, keep in mind that one needs to score usually in the top 20-25% to gain admission into the AOA honor society, and is not unique to just this school. So in that sense, residency directors can still gauge if you were towards the top of your class even though your actual transcript grades are P/F.

EDIT: I found out SDN also switches out "i-e" for "e-i" such as in "believe" for Apr F-ools. Funny!

 

[Willy38]

It's pass/fail -- me beleive [me]most[/me] schools are shifting towards this grading system now or in the near future. However, keep in mind that one needs to score usually in the top 20-25% to gain admission into the AOA honor soceity, and is not unique to just this school. So in that sense, residency directors can still gauge if you were towards the top of your class even though your actual transcript grades are P/F.

EDIT: me found out SDN also switches out "me-e" for "e-me" such as in "beleive" for Apr F-ools. Funny!

ok that makes sense. How do they tell with students from yale? Don't they have no class rank?

 

[supermintyfresh]

ok that makes sense. How do they tell with students from yale? Don't they have no class rank?

Most schools that are unranked just don't display your class rank on the transcript, but still would internally use your course grades and step scores to determine AOA honor eligibility. Would assume Yale does something similar despite being unranked.

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[byaaaaaaah23]

UCLA does not take state residency into account. OOS numbers = low compared to in-state numbers due to very low in-state tuition.

http://www.medstudent.ucla.edu/offices/admiss/admreq.cfm