UDM + drug testing???

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It bothers me just to know that the only reason you asked this question is because if they did, for some odd reason, I get the feeling that it would scare you a little.
 
just curious actually after talking about with someone who is attending UofM D-school who said they do test there. So just wondering if they do at UDM as well.. sorry to disappoint
 
daviddav said:
It bothers me just to know that the only reason you asked this question is because if they did, for some odd reason, I get the feeling that it would scare you a little.
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my thoughts exactly
 
Hey, even Home Depot does drug testing on all there employees for liability purposes. I would wager that a school that has inexperienced wanna-be-dentists poking around in peoples mouths with potentially harmful tools would be required to drug test there students by there insurance company.
 
Alexxzis said:
Does anyone know if a drug test is required at dental schools?
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I would be kinda surprised if they didn't..... And if you aren't doing drugs you should have nothing to worry about........and if you are doing drugs you shouldn't be in the health care field.... drugs and working on people not really the best idea....
 
Clearly you can't be a good doctor or a role model if you have ever smoked pot. Pot makes you evil...

seriously you people are most likely hypocrites (unless you're the loser type that isn't well rounded and stays in and reads books all weekend). I really hope none of you have ever had a drink of alcohol, which everyone knows affects your body and judgement much worse than pot, although I don't know if that's what the topic being talked about here is or not. Either way, if someone asks a question it should be answered, and if you don't know the answer you shouldnt criticize someone for asking an honest question. The point of these forums are to make us all more knowledgeable, not bigger b*tches. I hate how someone that may have lit up once or twice can be totally barred from their lifelong dream when the drunk sitting next to you in class was never questioned because alcohol obviously isnt a drug. get real and learn what the definition of a drug really is if theyre going to give drug tests. Why not test for people that smoke, drink, shoot up, take prescription drugs illegaly or whatever else? There is no reason to single out one group of people when everything else is equally as bad.
 
anyways, im sure the person asking this question isnt planning on using drugs while in school or practice (i hope), but they just want to know if something that was in their past could come back to haunt them or not. Does anyone really know the answer to this question or not?
 
wow, you registered just to defend pot smoking? rock on with your bad self!


seriously, why else would someone ask about drug testing unless they were worried about a positive result? Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean that it's somehow more acceptable to drink while on the job or at school or working on patients. Besides, someone who has been drinking is pretty easy to spot, say, by their breath whereas drug use is not as easy to spot.

if you're looking to push a pro-pot agenda, you've come to the wrong place.
 
So you cant be well rounded if you don't smoke pot, eh? I guess I'm not all that rounded (figuratively speaking of course, since I am kind of round).
 
lemoncurry said:
wow, you registered just to defend pot smoking? rock on with your bad self!


seriously, why else would someone ask about drug testing unless they were worried about a positive result? Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean that it's somehow more acceptable to drink while on the job or at school or working on patients. Besides, someone who has been drinking is pretty easy to spot, say, by their breath whereas drug use is not as easy to spot.

if you're looking to push a pro-pot agenda, you've come to the wrong place.
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I'm not here to push any agenda, I am here to ask questions and to also hear answers to other's questions, no need to tell me im in the wrong place. It just so happens that this was the first post that caught my eye. If I were here to push an agenda you would have seen many .com links and other junk. I was just defending another user who was openly criticized for asking a question.

I know that it is easier to spot someone who has been drinking, but in my experience working in various ERs and clinics I have heard and spoken with many Docs who just the night before were out drinking pretty heavily, how would you plan on spotting that? It shouldn't matter if someone who has been drinking is easier to spot, what matters is that these people have other people's lives in their hands and they aren't respecting that. I feel that if one group of people is going to be singled out then the others should be equally as well.

And regardless of all of this non-sense bickering, I am curious to what the real answer to this question is, which is why I am a member on this forum, to find out answers, not just to mine but also to other people's questions. If you cant respect that then maybe YOU are in the wrong place.
 
Blarelli said:
So you cant be well rounded if you don't smoke pot, eh? I guess I'm not all that rounded (figuratively speaking of course, since I am kind of round).
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im not condoning pot smoking or saying that it makes you a well rounded person fatty, haha, just kidding. But seriously, I meant that well rounded people get out and experience things, it doesnt mean you have to smoke or drink or do anything else related to drugs, but if you're sitting inside and only concentrating on your studies I sure hope you dont think you're well rounded, because the only thing getting round has got to be your stomach in those circumstances. And about being a hypocrite, that was for anyone who has ever drank, because alcohol is also a drug.
 
polishp86 said:
Clearly you can't be a good doctor or a role model if you have ever smoked pot. Pot makes you evil...

seriously you people are most likely hypocrites (unless you're the loser type that isn't well rounded and stays in and reads books all weekend). I really hope none of you have ever had a drink of alcohol, which everyone knows affects your body and judgement much worse than pot, although I don't know if that's what the topic being talked about here is or not. Either way, if someone asks a question it should be answered, and if you don't know the answer you shouldnt criticize someone for asking an honest question. The point of these forums are to make us all more knowledgeable, not bigger b*tches. I hate how someone that may have lit up once or twice can be totally barred from their lifelong dream when the drunk sitting next to you in class was never questioned because alcohol obviously isnt a drug. get real and learn what the definition of a drug really is if theyre going to give drug tests. Why not test for people that smoke, drink, shoot up, take prescription drugs illegaly or whatever else? There is no reason to single out one group of people when everything else is equally as bad.
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So if we haven't smoked pot we aren't well rounded and don't go outside or stop reading books? Get a life, you are a tool.
 
lemoncurry said:
seriously, why else would someone ask about drug testing unless they were worried about a positive result?
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Ok, so with that "what do you have to hide" line of thought police wouldn't need warrants for searches. If you have nothing to hide, why not let the police search your property. I can use the "nothing to hide" line of thought for any argument. Why not let the government put cameras in your house? Got something to hide? Why not agree to have your phone and email conversations recorded? Got something to hide? Why not make your medical records public? Got something to hide?

It's not about hiding guilt, but about privacy, inconvenience, and protection from abuses of power. That and treating your dental students like criminals. We're talking about dental schools, not federal prisons. I can't believe the people here on SDN can be so ignorant. Mention the big bad drugs argument, and everyone uses the "nothing to hide" argument. Would you like to live in a glass house? No, well then you MUST have something to hide.

To answer the OP not all dental schools do drug testing. I guess the ones not doing drug testing MUST be filled with drugged out dental students! I hear their classrooms are full of drug dealers and used needles, so be careful.
 
Nice slippery slope.

difference between allowing the police to search your home is that they could, if they really wanted to, find something that looks like contraband. Even though a warrant is supposed to be specific, there is no stopping the imagination of a policeman.

A drug test looks for certain things only. Either the substance is there or it isn't and the marker will show up or not. The chance of manipulating the test to find unusual stuff is pretty low. How is it an invasion of privacy? You're working/schooling at a public institution that has rules in place for their students. You can choose not to take the urine test but you probably should have a lawyer present to defend your position. An invasion of privacy would be a random urine test at your home without your consent.

And if you think a simple urine test before registration is bad, read up on what NFL players have to go through with the random drug testing. It can happen at any time, any place, and the player has to remove his shirt, lower his pants to his knees, and pee with the testing agent watching. This is built into their contract so they have all signed and agreed to undergo this testing. Not an invasion of provacy.
 
lemoncurry said:
wow, you registered just to defend pot smoking? rock on with your bad self!


seriously, why else would someone ask about drug testing unless they were worried about a positive result? Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean that it's somehow more acceptable to drink while on the job or at school or working on patients. Besides, someone who has been drinking is pretty easy to spot, say, by their breath whereas drug use is not as easy to spot.

if you're looking to push a pro-pot agenda, you've come to the wrong place.
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I think you missed the point. It's not about doing any drugs on-the-job, it's during your off time. Someone could smoke weed at night and still be as responsible and ready for work as someone whos drinks alcohol at night. Ofcourse most people think their vices are less harmful than others vices, so let's keep pointing fingers.
 
Selso2109 said:
So if we haven't smoked pot we aren't well rounded and don't go outside or stop reading books? Get a life, you are a tool.
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Actually if you read the other posts that are supplemental to my original post you would understand the entire context of what I said. I never said that you have to smoke pot and do drugs to be well rounded but the impression I was getting is that people responding to this question are SO CLOSED MINDED that they cannot just answer a simple question without ridiculing another member who was only asking an honest question, which is exactly why these forums are in place. So you get a life, I NEVER SAID TO STOP READING OR TO DO DRUGS. I only said that those who choose to stay in and only read probably arent as well rounded as others that have other activities they are involved in besides school. You're the tool and apparently you don't know how to read so maybe you should stay inside and actually learn how to read before you post a degrading comment. Context my friend, context.
 
Polish has already taken back what he said and revised his comments in later posts. There is NO need for the name calling. It's just a misunderstanding. Everyone should relax a little.
 
Selso2109 said:
So if we haven't smoked pot we aren't well rounded and don't go outside or stop reading books? Get a life, you are a tool.
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Hes not being a tool. Just saying you need to get out, party an live life to the fullest. Not nessacerally(spelling) smoke weed. I dont think i could stay in every weekend an do nothing, id go crazy!
 
To the OP, I don't think most schools do any drug testing.

To the rampant argument, I believe what people do on their on time is their own business. As long as they're not high in the clinics, I don't see why it should make any difference if a dental student smokes pot.
 
armorshell said:
To the OP, I don't think most schools do any drug testing.

To the rapmant argument, I believe what people do on their on time is their own business. As long as they're not high in the clinics, I don't see why it should make any difference if a dental student smokes pot.
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Oh really? Bush smoked pot during his college years....now look what has happened to our country. :laugh::laugh:
 
It would be interesting to see what adcoms think of the situation. I'm sorry if I got touchy about the subject, but we all have our own beliefs, I will leave you to yours.
 
Back to the OP's original question, I was never asked to piss in a cup here at Buffalo. And I've never heard of other students having to be tested either.

A lot of hospital based residencies require drug tests, so watch out what you do at those wild and crazy dental school graduation parties.
 
Umm....I can't imagine getting through 4 years of Dental School without doing drugs!
 
thanks to those who took this question seriously. Everyone who was wondering appreciates it!
 
Livineasi said:
Umm....I can't imagine getting through 4 years of Dental School without doing drugs!
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I hope you mean caffiene and maybe alcohol and nicotine if those are your things
 
rabble rabble rabble drugs are bad, mmmkay rabble rabble
 
It is sad to see ignorance from btizzels. By drugs you mean only illegal drugs? So it is right for doctor to be on alcohol while practicing? FYI alcohol is a drug, so is nicotine so are all those painkillers and anti-anxiety pills you can get away with easily. There are no drugs tests for lortabs, xanax, oxycontins etc. I have been working at a pharmacy for 3 years and people these days are moving from illegal drugs to prescription pills because it cuts down your risk of getting caught.
My point is those drugs will mess you up more than pot. Do your research.
I am not saying do drugs or which ones are ok to do, just don't make any judgments about anyone or say that just because a person passes a drug test, he or she is drug free. That is all.
 
UDM does not do drug tests, but they probably should/need to.
 
Yea , to OP , some schools should drug test especially NYU, here in NY they always are in the news every year for something!

I am not going there.
 
polishp86 said:
Clearly you can't be a good doctor or a role model if you have ever smoked pot. Pot makes you evil...

seriously you people are most likely hypocrites (unless you're the loser type that isn't well rounded and stays in and reads books all weekend). I really hope none of you have ever had a drink of alcohol, which everyone knows affects your body and judgement much worse than pot, although I don't know if that's what the topic being talked about here is or not. Either way, if someone asks a question it should be answered, and if you don't know the answer you shouldnt criticize someone for asking an honest question. The point of these forums are to make us all more knowledgeable, not bigger b*tches. I hate how someone that may have lit up once or twice can be totally barred from their lifelong dream when the drunk sitting next to you in class was never questioned because alcohol obviously isnt a drug. get real and learn what the definition of a drug really is if theyre going to give drug tests. Why not test for people that smoke, drink, shoot up, take prescription drugs illegaly or whatever else? There is no reason to single out one group of people when everything else is equally as bad.
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The most important difference between alcohol and marijuana is that alcohol is legal and pot isn't.

Buut think about it...would you want to see a doctor, or worse, a student doctor, who chooses to engage in legal (alcohol abuse) or illegal activities (illegal drugs/ prescription drug abuse) that may or may not impair their ability to perform surgery on you? Or maybe cause them to forget that there is a sponge in your bowel before they stich you up?
 
Good Job at reviving an ancient thread LOL

tooth knockn said:
Yea , to OP , some schools should drug test especially NYU, here in NY they always are in the news every year for something!

I am not going there.
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